Can someone explain why I cannot sign this guy?

[jonpfl]

All,

Whenever I try to sign this guy, it says the owner will not let me even though I seem to be in the black.

Why is this?

Thx
jonpfl

[Cinnamon J. Scudworth]

It's not this year that's the problem, it's one or more of the future years:

"Your projected payroll in a future season is higher than the projected budget."

[SandMan]

This contract will put you over the budget amount in a future season. You probably have either back loaded contracts where the amount in the future is larger than this season or you have a lot of arbitration eligible players and their contract amount will increase in the future season. Those are the things I would check. Something is pushing you over your budget in the future.


EDIT: I just noticed that the amount of this contract is back-loaded raising each year. This is what is causing the problem. Did you try to offer him a contract that is the same each season. You can probably go 21M a season and still be in the range. If you do not have this available for this season then that is what is causing your problem in the future.

OOPS just noticed that you only have 19M available for free agents this year. You probably cannot afford this player without having financial issues in the future. Try offering 18-19M and see if he signs with you. Just remember arbitration can easily put you over budget in the future, so make sure you don't have too many arb eligible players wanting huge increases in salary.

Can you post your salary obligations screen? This would give me an idea of your future obligations and see if you can really afford this player.

[jonpfl]

Originally Posted by Cinnamon J. Scudworth

It's not this year that's the problem, it's one or more of the future years:

"Your projected payroll in a future season is higher than the projected budget."

So, I should go look at future salaries and see what the issue is?

How do you know how much will be allocated in the future though?

Thx,
jonplf

[jonpfl]

Originally Posted by SandMan

This contract will put you over the budget amount in a future season. You probably have either back loaded contracts where the amount in the future is larger than this season or you have a lot of arbitration eligible players and their contract amount will increase in the future season. Those are the things I would check. Something is pushing you over your budget in the future.


EDIT: I just noticed that the amount of this contract is back-loaded raising each year. This is what is causing the problem. Did you try to offer him a contract that is the same each season. You can probably go 21M a season and still be in the range. If you do not have this available for this season then that is what is causing your problem in the future. OOPS just noticed that you only have 19M available for free agents this year. You probably cannot afford this player without having financial issues in the future.

Whoops, braincramp, sorry

Is there any way to figure out how much you will be allocated in future years by your owner?

Thx
jonpfl

[Cinnamon J. Scudworth]

No. For these purposes, I believe it just assumes that your owner's budget stays flat. In other words, your salaries in future years are exceeding your current budget.

[Cras]

look at your player salary report and see how much you already have as obligations. Then adjust accordingly.

However if I was your owner, I would block that contract in a heart beat. Are you seriously offering a 7th year 29.2 Million dollar PLAYER option?!? Make that thing a team option and save yourself some major issues down the road.

[SandMan]

Originally Posted by jonpfl

Whoops, braincramp, sorry

Is there any way to figure out how much you will be allocated in future years by your owner?

Thx
jonpfl

I don't think so. I think it just uses current payroll and budget information for future contracts.

[J P Falcon the 3rd]

I did not like that "future payroll" is used as a decision modifier in 12 and I still do not like it here. Too many variables could occur before the "future" comes, such as player trades or increased playoff revenue, which can change these equations. In my mind, if your current budget can handle a signing, then it should be allowed. If your "future budget" does create financial problems, then the owner can insist that the overall player salary be reduced. In other words, you cross that financial bridge when you come to it.

[jonpfl]

Originally Posted by Cras

look at your player salary report and see how much you already have as obligations. Then adjust accordingly.

However if I was your owner, I would block that contract in a heart beat. Are you seriously offering a 7th year 29.2 Million dollar PLAYER option?!? Make that thing a team option and save yourself some major issues down the road.

It was just an example

I never use player options

Does anyone?

[Cras]

Team options sure. You can offer a guy a nice option year, and you hope that he may end up being worth it, but if things go bad, you decline it and move on. I love team options.

Mutual options, I really dont even know what it means. that he can opt out too I suppose. I always prefer to be the one in control of an option.

The few times that I recall offering a player option was only if the option would give him a pay cut.

[snepp]

What I've never been able to figure out is why the owner won't let you sign a free agent to a league minimum contract when you're over budget. It's no different than bringing up a player that has a minor league deal.

[Cliche]

The best part, OOTP still uses the imaginary future budget number even if you don't use owner budgeting.

Great to see that that wasn't fixed multiple games later.