Historical position change problem (pitchers)

[cfgenesis]

A big problem I have noticed is that the game does not seem to deal with those players who changed positions significantly during their careers. The prime example is Babe Ruth, who in real life began as a relief pitcher, became a starting pitcher, and then transitioned into one of the most prolific hitters in baseball history. Well, unless I manually change his position at the appropriate year, he remains a relief pitcher for his entire career. The same goes for Nolan Ryan, who starts this game as a relief pitcher and stays that way unless you edit his stats to reflect the strikeout king starting pitcher that he should be. Is there any way around this?

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by cfgenesis

A big problem I have noticed is that the game does not seem to deal with those players who changed positions significantly during their careers. The prime example is Babe Ruth, who in real life began as a relief pitcher, became a starting pitcher, and then transitioned into one of the most prolific hitters in baseball history. Well, unless I manually change his position at the appropriate year, he remains a relief pitcher for his entire career. The same goes for Nolan Ryan, who starts this game as a relief pitcher and stays that way unless you edit his stats to reflect the strikeout king starting pitcher that he should be. Is there any way around this?

In the Historical section of your game setup, there's a setting called "Base roles/positions on" and the choices are "AI evaluation" and "Real life stats". Choose "Real life stats". Another setting that might be impacting this is whether you choose to play with recalc or with the game's development engine. If you want players to evolve the way they did in real life, you need to choose recalc here. There may be other settings as well that others can chime in with to help you out. Cheers.

[cfgenesis]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

In the Historical section of your game setup, there's a setting called "Base roles/positions on" and the choices are "AI evaluation" and "Real life stats". Choose "Real life stats". Another setting that might be impacting this is whether you choose to play with recalc or with the game's development engine. If you want players to evolve the way they did in real life, you need to choose recalc here. There may be other settings as well that others can chime in with to help you out. Cheers.

Thanks. Looks like that is something you can only change when you are starting a new game, rather than later. Guess I will have to try that next time around!

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by cfgenesis

Thanks. Looks like that is something you can only change when you are starting a new game, rather than later. Guess I will have to try that next time around!

Out of curiosity what did you have those settings set to? Also, don't worry about feeling the need to start over. I'm quite sure even the "day 1" players here go through that every year. It happens. It's a pretty complex game with tons of different settings, the smallest of which can have a big impact on your game.

[cfgenesis]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

Out of curiosity what did you have those settings set to? Also, don't worry about feeling the need to start over. I'm quite sure even the "day 1" players here go through that every year. It happens. It's a pretty complex game with tons of different settings, the smallest of which can have a big impact on your game.

I had it set to "use talent ratings OOTP development engine". The league I was running was a fictional league using real players - e.g. made-up teams and evolving league factors. Another problem with this is that in addition to real players, the game introduces fictional players through scouting. I have not found a way to have only real players unless you play a historical game only.

[TommyHerr]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

In the Historical section of your game setup, there's a setting called "Base roles/positions on" and the choices are "AI evaluation" and "Real life stats". Choose "Real life stats". Another setting that might be impacting this is whether you choose to play with recalc or with the game's development engine. If you want players to evolve the way they did in real life, you need to choose recalc here. There may be other settings as well that others can chime in with to help you out. Cheers.

Now for me, I DON'T want players to develop as in real life, so ofcourse recalc is off. However, I have this Ruth problem as well. I just drafted him and he has great batting potential but is listed only as a Pitcher. I played one season, and I started him at 3B every game in hopes of him gaining a rating there. After 150 or games, he didn't even get a "1" for rating at 3B. I just checked, and I have based on AI eval checked. If I change it to "real stats" will this effect my over all game in which I want players to develop randomly and re-write MLB history?

On sort of a side note, did Ruth not pick up 3B ratings cause he is just not able to do so based on the difficulty of the position and his lack of physical/mental skill? You would think after 150 games even a monkey could play 3B better than mark Reynolds.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by TommyHerr

Now for me, I DON'T want players to develop as in real life, so ofcourse recalc is off. However, I have this Ruth problem as well. I just drafted him and he has great batting potential but is listed only as a Pitcher. I played one season, and I started him at 3B every game in hopes of him gaining a rating there. After 150 or games, he didn't even get a "1" for rating at 3B. I just checked, and I have based on AI eval checked. If I change it to "real stats" will this effect my over all game in which I want players to develop randomly and re-write MLB history?

On sort of a side note, did Ruth not pick up 3B ratings cause he is just not able to do so based on the difficulty of the position and his lack of physical/mental skill? You would think after 150 games even a monkey could play 3B better than mark Reynolds.

Since Ruth was a pitcher and a RF in real life I doubt his infield ratings are any good, so he probably wont get much better at 3B. Maybe at 1B, since it's easier to play. I think if you'd put him in RF he'd have developed there just fine.

[TommyHerr]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Since Ruth was a pitcher and a RF in real life I doubt his infield ratings are any good, so he probably wont get much better at 3B. Maybe at 1B, since it's easier to play. I think if you'd put him in RF he'd have developed there just fine.

Surprisingly his OF ratings are worse than his IF ratings (at least in 1914). His OF ratings are all 1's. I'm giving him a shot in LF this year to see if he picks up on it. Other than that I may have to wait until the 20s to see if he gets a better knack for the field based on RL.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by cfgenesis

Thanks. Looks like that is something you can only change when you are starting a new game, rather than later. Guess I will have to try that next time around!

You should be able to change them during the off season.