Washed Up Superstar/Fan Favorite?

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 09:26 AM

At what point do you just let a former superstar a long time favorite walk at free agency or even bench him?

He continually asks for much more money than we he is worth...He has not had a very productive season in a few years and seemingly refuses to retire. I sometimes feel obligated to keep them around if I originally drafted them and even start them.

CarolinaSoxfan · 04-13-2012, 10:05 AM

Stop bashing Derek Jeter! LOL

cephasjames · 04-13-2012, 10:06 AM

When you figure out this answer please email it to Jim Leyland and Dave Dombrowski.

Phatman · 04-13-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PApulverizers

At what point do you just let a former superstar a long time favorite walk at free agency or even bench him?

He continually asks for much more money than we he is worth...He has not had a very productive season in a few years and seemingly refuses to retire. I sometimes feel obligated to keep them around if I originally drafted them and even start them.

I feel the same way. You start feeling like you need to be loyal to these guys, it's a videogame but hey, I just gave a 37 y/o SP who has been a Roy Halladay a 4 year extension.

Loyalty hurts, he's tanking but I am dumb and keep him around.

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 10:20 AM

lol I have always thought DJ was overrated/overpriced simply bc he plays in NY...( I am a Braves fan)

I was just curious how others handled these situations.

I hate not signing them and them finishing their career with another team. I guess I am an old timer(despite being 26) in that I like to see players stick with one team throughout their career.

I am glad Chipper stuck with the Braves

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Phatman

I feel the same way. You start feeling like you need to be loyal to these guys, it's a videogame but hey, I just gave a 37 y/o SP who has been a Roy Halladay a 4 year extension.

Loyalty hurts, he's tanking but I am dumb and keep him around.

I had a guy in another video game want a 3 year contract and he was 41...I gave it to him...

After the contract he still didnt retire...he potential and ratings were horrendous. I figured if I released him he would eventually retire but another team signed him lol...

Phatman · 04-13-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PApulverizers

I had a guy in another video game want a 3 year contract and he was 41...I gave it to him...

After the contract he still didnt retire...he potential and ratings were horrendous. I figured if I released him he would eventually retire but another team signed him lol...

Yeah pretty sad, I am probably going to trade him in the next year or so. He still wins games for me but he is getting older. So we may just part ways.

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 10:28 AM

at least he is producing still...It is just hard when you have a former stud now washed up....and you have another star in the making in the minors waiting to be called up....

I guess that is what being a GM is all about...

jonpfl · 04-13-2012, 10:39 AM

All,

I am getting ready to do the amateur draft and I noticed I have 2 picks in the first round. Is there someplace that explains why you have those picks? I know one is because of position in last years schedule but no clue why I have another.

BTW, I am playing with the 2012 CBA if that matters

Thx,
jonpfl

Orcin · 04-13-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jonpfl

All,

I am getting ready to do the amateur draft and I noticed I have 2 picks in the first round. Is there someplace that explains why you have those picks? I know one is because of position in last years schedule but no clue why I have another.

You probably lost a Type A free agent and received another teams pick as compensation.

GMLoophole · 04-13-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phatman

Yeah pretty sad, I am probably going to trade him in the next year or so. He still wins games for me but he is getting older. So we may just part ways.

Under the old CBA rules I got burned several times with vets like this accepting arbitration and getting HUUUUGE checks, sticking me with their salary and no draft picks, to the point I stopped offering arb and just let the picks slide, especially Type B picks. Edit: yes, this problem was the worst when I ran the Yankees

Posada and Rivera both took me to the cleaners. Although FWIW I think Jeter-bashing has now jumped the shark, in general.

The Wolf · 04-13-2012, 10:52 AM

Experience has taught me to dump them mercilessly when they start to lose a step.

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 10:55 AM

Thats what I end up doing...Around the time they reach 30, i start thinking about moving on without them and start actively seeking replacements either from the minors, drafts, or even possibly trading for a younger average guy to fill in temporarily until a long-term solution comes up through the farm

Todorojoz · 04-13-2012, 10:59 AM

Playing as the Colorado Rockies, 49 year old Jamie Moyer just asked me for a contract extention! Man that guy just doesnt want to end his career...

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 11:00 AM

moneys too good

ry1220 · 04-13-2012, 12:12 PM

As a general rule, I don't sign players to extensions further than their 31st birthday. I save money, but I don't win very much.

PApulverizers · 04-13-2012, 12:15 PM

I usually dont either...but i do get attached to some players...not a specific player type either...could be anyone from a leadoff man to a cleanup hitter...even the backup who filled in a season or two and did pretty good but in reality is not everyday starting material. lol

jmount78 · 04-13-2012, 01:18 PM

I have only done that for two players and they were McGuire and Chipper. Both retired and were my team's only HOFs.

I generally dump them at the first sign of decline, but there is always an exception to the rule.

cephasjames · 04-13-2012, 01:22 PM

I only recognize numbers, not names. So that's how I play.

2Rowdy · 04-13-2012, 01:23 PM

It all depends. I do whatever I can to keep them around as long as possible if they have high leadership skills. Especially if they are satisfied with their playing time. Brian Roberts flat out won the World Series for the Orioles when he was 38 and only had about 200 ABs during the season. He still didn't retire (I hate that) and I let him go.

04-13-2012, 09:26 AM	#1
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	Washed Up Superstar/Fan Favorite? At what point do you just let a former superstar a long time favorite walk at free agency or even bench him? He continually asks for much more money than we he is worth...He has not had a very productive season in a few years and seemingly refuses to retire. I sometimes feel obligated to keep them around if I originally drafted them and even start them.

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04-13-2012, 10:39 AM	#9
jonpfl Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 200	Draft location question All, I am getting ready to do the amateur draft and I noticed I have 2 picks in the first round. Is there someplace that explains why you have those picks? I know one is because of position in last years schedule but no clue why I have another. BTW, I am playing with the 2012 CBA if that matters Thx, jonpfl

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04-13-2012, 10:20 AM	#5
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	lol I have always thought DJ was overrated/overpriced simply bc he plays in NY...( I am a Braves fan) I was just curious how others handled these situations. I hate not signing them and them finishing their career with another team. I guess I am an old timer(despite being 26) in that I like to see players stick with one team throughout their career. I am glad Chipper stuck with the Braves

04-13-2012, 10:28 AM	#8
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	at least he is producing still...It is just hard when you have a former stud now washed up....and you have another star in the making in the minors waiting to be called up.... I guess that is what being a GM is all about...

04-13-2012, 10:55 AM	#13
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	Thats what I end up doing...Around the time they reach 30, i start thinking about moving on without them and start actively seeking replacements either from the minors, drafts, or even possibly trading for a younger average guy to fill in temporarily until a long-term solution comes up through the farm

04-13-2012, 10:59 AM	#14
Todorojoz Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 40	Playing as the Colorado Rockies, 49 year old Jamie Moyer just asked me for a contract extention! Man that guy just doesnt want to end his career...

04-13-2012, 11:00 AM	#15
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	moneys too good

04-13-2012, 12:12 PM	#16
ry1220 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 818	As a general rule, I don't sign players to extensions further than their 31st birthday. I save money, but I don't win very much.

04-13-2012, 12:15 PM	#17
PApulverizers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 66	I usually dont either...but i do get attached to some players...not a specific player type either...could be anyone from a leadoff man to a cleanup hitter...even the backup who filled in a season or two and did pretty good but in reality is not everyday starting material. lol

04-13-2012, 01:18 PM	#18
jmount78 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 306	I have only done that for two players and they were McGuire and Chipper. Both retired and were my team's only HOFs. I generally dump them at the first sign of decline, but there is always an exception to the rule.

04-13-2012, 01:23 PM	#20
2Rowdy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 33	It all depends. I do whatever I can to keep them around as long as possible if they have high leadership skills. Especially if they are satisfied with their playing time. Brian Roberts flat out won the World Series for the Orioles when he was 38 and only had about 200 ABs during the season. He still didn't retire (I hate that) and I let him go.