Joe Paterno near death

MorseMoose · 01-21-2012, 07:50 PM

https://plus.google.com/115509872711...ts/gop89tFJiQj

Probably not much doubt the last couple months have taken its toll his already fragile health.

Jason · 01-21-2012, 08:53 PM

I have no doubt at all about it.

Charlie Hough · 01-21-2012, 10:10 PM

The biggest factor is certainly his radiation treatment. I have a grandmother of almost identical age, and she recently underwent six weeks of small dose radiation treatment in an attempt to shrink a small, relatively benign tumor.

It was nothing like the normal radiation treatment that is used to treat cancer, and the process weakened and exhausted her to the point that she sleeps 20 hours per day, hardly eats anything at all, and has declined dramatically.

Paterno's treatment has probably been much more aggressive, so the outcome is probably more severe. It's probably too much to handle for someone who is already frail and has had other health issues.

Scoman · 01-21-2012, 11:24 PM

People.com is reporting Joe Paterno has died.

Joe Paterno Dies at 85: Report - Tributes, Joe Paterno : People.com

Reports of Joe Paterno's death refuted by family

http://eye-on-college-football.blogs...56338/34497800

Goody · 01-22-2012, 01:12 AM

He was really old. He outlived Frank Sinatra. That's an accomplishment.

He wasn't the monster in the recent news. Without that guy (the sick man he didn't act upon) he'd have just been Joe Paterno. And nobody asks to have a monster come into their lives...most of all children...and secondly...old people.

But back to Paterno...Let's remember him for what his life was, not what it wasn't.

dsvitak · 01-22-2012, 11:23 AM

Joe Paterno has died. Confirmed, front page of ESPN.

yougo1000 · 01-22-2012, 11:40 AM

He was a great man despite what has been said

Cooleyvol · 01-22-2012, 12:21 PM

Regardless of recent events, this is sad.

RchW · 01-22-2012, 12:42 PM

Sad news, he was a legend.

phightin · 01-22-2012, 01:14 PM

sorry but i'm not as sentimental. not that i would wish death upon anyone or am celebrating the fact that he died which I'm not, but I'm also not buying into the he was a legend we should remember him fondly etc etc etc. (If I'm the first a-hole that says this than so be it)

The guy was directly or at the very least indirectly responsible for the rape of multiple young boys, whatever legacy he had is ruined. I don't care about the good, I'm not a member of his family, a former player, or a penn stater. At the end of the day I'm a citizen who puts child rape as second most severe crime directly under homicide.

As someone who is involved in collegiate athletics I can assure you there are far more deserving coaches and admins across the country, many that you guys have never heard of, (many at jucos and d2 and d3 schools) that are far more legendary than this guy.

I'm going to remember Paterno for what he was not what I still want him to be.

MorseMoose · 01-22-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by phightin

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RchW · 01-22-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phightin

sorry but i'm not as sentimental. not that i would wish death upon anyone or am celebrating the fact that he died which I'm not, but I'm also not buying into the he was a legend we should remember him fondly etc etc etc. (If I'm the first a-hole that says this than so be it)

The guy was directly or at the very least indirectly responsible for the rape of multiple young boys, whatever legacy he had is ruined. I don't care about the good, I'm not a member of his family, a former player, or a penn stater. At the end of the day I'm a citizen who puts child rape as second most severe crime directly under homicide.

As someone who is involved in collegiate athletics I can assure you there are far more deserving coaches and admins across the country, many that you guys have never heard of, (many at jucos and d2 and d3 schools) that are far more legendary than this guy.

I'm going to remember Paterno for what he was not what I still want him to be.

Post on the thread where that is discussed.

SWardle · 01-22-2012, 02:30 PM

Sad news. JoePa, like Bear Bryant, will now have two things he is remembered for. He was a great football coach and he died very shortly after he retired.

jbergey22 · 01-23-2012, 01:14 AM

RIP Joe.

You accomplished many great things and did a lot of good deeds. Sorry that you had to go before you got to tell your side.

Vinny P. · 01-23-2012, 01:39 PM

I hope the media, and all those who relentlessly attacked Joe Paterno are happy. Us here in and near "Happy" Valley certainly are not.

R.I.P., Joe Pa. You were a great man, who did what you thought was best throughout your entire career!

Vinny P. · 01-23-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWardle

Sad news. JoePa, like Bear Bryant, will now have two things he is remembered for. He was a great football coach and he died very shortly after he retired.

I have always said, for the past ten years now, that as soon as Joe Paterno is finished with his coaching career, he will end up dying within a year. I was way off. He died within a couple of weeks.

Football was his life and his legacy.

ukhotstove · 01-23-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny P.

I hope the media, and all those who relentlessly attacked Joe Paterno are happy. Us here in and near "Happy" Valley certainly are not.

You thanked RchW's post don't you think you should have taken his advice before posting this. I don't think anybody is glad he is dead media or forum poster, have to say though after watching my Auntie die through cancer he isn't in pain anymore and that maybe something to bring a small part of relief for his family from his death.

01-21-2012, 07:50 PM	#1
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Joe Paterno near death https://plus.google.com/115509872711...ts/gop89tFJiQj Probably not much doubt the last couple months have taken its toll his already fragile health.

01-21-2012, 11:24 PM	#4
Scoman All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: heath ohio Posts: 1,830	People.com is reporting Joe Paterno has died. Joe Paterno Dies at 85: Report - Tributes, Joe Paterno : People.com Reports of Joe Paterno's death refuted by family http://eye-on-college-football.blogs...56338/34497800 Last edited by Scoman; 01-21-2012 at 11:38 PM.

01-22-2012, 01:12 AM	#5
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	He was really old. He outlived Frank Sinatra. That's an accomplishment. He wasn't the monster in the recent news. Without that guy (the sick man he didn't act upon) he'd have just been Joe Paterno. And nobody asks to have a monster come into their lives...most of all children...and secondly...old people. But back to Paterno...Let's remember him for what his life was, not what it wasn't. Last edited by Goody; 01-22-2012 at 01:13 AM.

01-22-2012, 11:40 AM	#7
yougo1000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 652	He was a great man despite what has been said __________________ Teams I like: Cubs Bears Bulls Hawks and Kansas JayHawks

01-22-2012, 12:42 PM	#9
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Sad news, he was a legend. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-21-2012, 08:53 PM	#2
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,847	I have no doubt at all about it.

01-21-2012, 10:10 PM	#3
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,641	The biggest factor is certainly his radiation treatment. I have a grandmother of almost identical age, and she recently underwent six weeks of small dose radiation treatment in an attempt to shrink a small, relatively benign tumor. It was nothing like the normal radiation treatment that is used to treat cancer, and the process weakened and exhausted her to the point that she sleeps 20 hours per day, hardly eats anything at all, and has declined dramatically. Paterno's treatment has probably been much more aggressive, so the outcome is probably more severe. It's probably too much to handle for someone who is already frail and has had other health issues.

01-22-2012, 11:23 AM	#6
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,356	Joe Paterno has died. Confirmed, front page of ESPN.

01-22-2012, 12:21 PM	#8
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Regardless of recent events, this is sad.

01-22-2012, 01:14 PM	#10
phightin All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 586	sorry but i'm not as sentimental. not that i would wish death upon anyone or am celebrating the fact that he died which I'm not, but I'm also not buying into the he was a legend we should remember him fondly etc etc etc. (If I'm the first a-hole that says this than so be it) The guy was directly or at the very least indirectly responsible for the rape of multiple young boys, whatever legacy he had is ruined. I don't care about the good, I'm not a member of his family, a former player, or a penn stater. At the end of the day I'm a citizen who puts child rape as second most severe crime directly under homicide. As someone who is involved in collegiate athletics I can assure you there are far more deserving coaches and admins across the country, many that you guys have never heard of, (many at jucos and d2 and d3 schools) that are far more legendary than this guy. I'm going to remember Paterno for what he was not what I still want him to be.

01-22-2012, 02:30 PM	#13
SWardle Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seeking my El Dorado Posts: 548 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	Sad news. JoePa, like Bear Bryant, will now have two things he is remembered for. He was a great football coach and he died very shortly after he retired.

01-23-2012, 01:14 AM	#14
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	RIP Joe. You accomplished many great things and did a lot of good deeds. Sorry that you had to go before you got to tell your side.

01-23-2012, 01:39 PM	#15
Vinny P. Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,518 Infractions: 0/1 (4)	I hope the media, and all those who relentlessly attacked Joe Paterno are happy. Us here in and near "Happy" Valley certainly are not. R.I.P., Joe Pa. You were a great man, who did what you thought was best throughout your entire career!