Question RE Pitching Lineup

s3nn3n · 11-30-2011, 04:20 PM

On the Team > Pitching page, how do you properly setup pitchers' roles?

Starting Rotation - I'm guessing use your top 5 SPs (for 5-man rotation).
What then should you do with Spot Starters?

Middle Reliever - I'm guessing use your top 4 MRs. Closer - Use your top CL.
What should you do with Mop-up Relievers, and Setup Relievers?

thanks

jlking · 12-01-2011, 02:29 PM

Well, as I am sure you know, there is no pat answer to that question.

Normally I use my two best relief pitchers as my setup men. The idea being this is going to be the pitchers you send in in the 8th inning when your starter just gave up a base hit and a walk and you need somebody to get you out of the jam.

For the mop up pitcher I usually pick a middle reliever who has pretty high stamina but not much else. The idea being that if you are 8 runs up or 8 runs down, you can use him to eat up some innings and protect your bullpen.

The spot starter is kind of the same reasoning for me. Typically he will be my 6th starter. But I don't use that slot that often except for when you expand to the 40 man roster.

Like I say, this is just my reasoning, your mileage my vary.

jlking · 12-01-2011, 02:53 PM

After thinking about your question and the fact you posted it in the 'New to the Game' section I should add.

You don't HAVE to fill in all of those slots. You can leave them empty. Back in the 70's teams typically carried 5 starts and 5 relief pitchers. So your bullpen might look like 3 middle relievers, one setup man and your closer with all the other bullpen slots left empty.

Chicagofan76 · 12-01-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by s3nn3n

On the Team > Pitching page, how do you properly setup pitchers' roles?

Starting Rotation - I'm guessing use your top 5 SPs (for 5-man rotation).
What then should you do with Spot Starters?

Middle Reliever - I'm guessing use your top 4 MRs. Closer - Use your top CL.
What should you do with Mop-up Relievers, and Setup Relievers?

thanks

For myself and this varies league by league...I tend to use also best 2 MR as setup, my best leftie specialist and my best rightie...In online leagues i tend to use my best leftie specialist as my #1 middle guy and set prefer matchups high...I tend to play out 80% of my solo leagues games so roles are almost a non factor. I have 1 league where 4 of my 6 MR have 12+ saves.
I tend to skip my #4 SP in my 130 game solo EBL leagues as often as possible so i dont have a spot starter in that league. I do use spot starter in Online leagues in case a guy is tired,

RchW · 12-01-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by s3nn3n

On the Team > Pitching page, how do you properly setup pitchers' roles?

Starting Rotation - I'm guessing use your top 5 SPs (for 5-man rotation).
What then should you do with Spot Starters?

Middle Reliever - I'm guessing use your top 4 MRs. Closer - Use your top CL.
What should you do with Mop-up Relievers, and Setup Relievers?

thanks

It depends on whether you play out games or sim them. If you sim the AI will honor the closer and the starters as set, but it will use relief pitchers based on its evaluation which can be quite different from yours.

OutS|der · 12-02-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

It depends on whether you play out games or sim them. If you sim the AI will honor the closer and the starters as set, but it will use relief pitchers based on its evaluation which can be quite different from yours.

So even if i have all the MP set the AI will use who it wants when i sim?
From my experiance the other roles are set to but change during the season due to player devolpment as even a little change can affect a picther being better then another.
Letting the ai set up your lineup it will put the best RP as closer, the next 2 best as setup men and then the rest as MP. Mop up gets set when the MP are full and will be the worst RP of the bunch. Spot starter is used as a 7th starter if you have a 6 man rotation, so any picther that has the skill to start but not enough to make the roation. I find the ai will stick to those for the most part

s3nn3n · 12-02-2011, 10:20 AM

Yeah, I don't have a great knowledge of baseball. I bought OOTP12 when I found out they were making a hockey sim as a way of supporting that project, but I find I'm liking OOTP.

Anyhow thanks all for this info!

I sim most games since I don't know enough to delve into the details. So I'm going to set the lineup based on your info and then if the AI handles it differently in sim games, at least I know how it's supposed to be done.

Another question now - How many SPs and how many MRs should I have on the 25 and 40 man rosters for a MLB team? I'm sure this depends on strategy but I mean roughly.

Thanks.

OutS|der · 12-02-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s3nn3n

Yeah, I don't have a great knowledge of baseball. I bought OOTP12 when I found out they were making a hockey sim as a way of supporting that project, but I find I'm liking OOTP.

Anyhow thanks all for this info!

I sim most games since I don't know enough to delve into the details. So I'm going to set the lineup based on your info and then if the AI handles it differently in sim games, at least I know how it's supposed to be done.

Another question now - How many SPs and how many MRs should I have on the 25 and 40 man rosters for a MLB team? I'm sure this depends on strategy but I mean roughly.

Thanks.

i was unsure of this myself so i just went by what wikipedia said

eight position players—catcher, four infielders, three outfielders—who play on a regular basis
five starting pitchers who constitute the team's pitching rotation or starting rotation
six relief pitchers, including one specialist closer, who constitute the team's bullpen (named for the off-field area where pitchers warm up)
one backup, or substitute, catcher
two backup infielders
two backup outfielders
one specialist pinch hitter, or a second backup catcher, or a seventh reliever

That's for the 25 man roster as to the 40 i just let the AI handle it

s3nn3n · 12-02-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OutS|der

i was unsure of this myself so i just went by what wikipedia said

eight position players—catcher, four infielders, three outfielders—who play on a regular basis
five starting pitchers who constitute the team's pitching rotation or starting rotation
six relief pitchers, including one specialist closer, who constitute the team's bullpen (named for the off-field area where pitchers warm up)
one backup, or substitute, catcher
two backup infielders
two backup outfielders
one specialist pinch hitter, or a second backup catcher, or a seventh reliever

That's for the 25 man roster as to the 40 i just let the AI handle it

Cool, that's what I needed. Thanks OutS|der!

11-30-2011, 04:20 PM	#1
s3nn3n Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 15	Question RE Pitching Lineup On the Team > Pitching page, how do you properly setup pitchers' roles? Starting Rotation - I'm guessing use your top 5 SPs (for 5-man rotation). What then should you do with Spot Starters? Middle Reliever - I'm guessing use your top 4 MRs. Closer - Use your top CL. What should you do with Mop-up Relievers, and Setup Relievers? thanks

12-01-2011, 02:29 PM	#2
jlking Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 85	Well, as I am sure you know, there is no pat answer to that question. Normally I use my two best relief pitchers as my setup men. The idea being this is going to be the pitchers you send in in the 8th inning when your starter just gave up a base hit and a walk and you need somebody to get you out of the jam. For the mop up pitcher I usually pick a middle reliever who has pretty high stamina but not much else. The idea being that if you are 8 runs up or 8 runs down, you can use him to eat up some innings and protect your bullpen. The spot starter is kind of the same reasoning for me. Typically he will be my 6th starter. But I don't use that slot that often except for when you expand to the 40 man roster. Like I say, this is just my reasoning, your mileage my vary.

12-01-2011, 02:53 PM	#3
jlking Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 85	After thinking about your question and the fact you posted it in the 'New to the Game' section I should add. You don't HAVE to fill in all of those slots. You can leave them empty. Back in the 70's teams typically carried 5 starts and 5 relief pitchers. So your bullpen might look like 3 middle relievers, one setup man and your closer with all the other bullpen slots left empty.

12-02-2011, 10:20 AM	#7
s3nn3n Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 15	Yeah, I don't have a great knowledge of baseball. I bought OOTP12 when I found out they were making a hockey sim as a way of supporting that project, but I find I'm liking OOTP. Anyhow thanks all for this info! I sim most games since I don't know enough to delve into the details. So I'm going to set the lineup based on your info and then if the AI handles it differently in sim games, at least I know how it's supposed to be done. Another question now - How many SPs and how many MRs should I have on the 25 and 40 man rosters for a MLB team? I'm sure this depends on strategy but I mean roughly. Thanks.