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Old 10-08-2011, 06:09 PM   #1
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This is an interesting one...

Okay, two questions on this one...

1. Washington commits one error, but Brooklyn goes 27 up, 27 down. No double plays. How is that possible? I had to check the game logs, but see if you can figure out what happened.

2. Is this a no-hitter or a perfect game?
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:15 PM   #2
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The only way I can see it happening is the left fielder (Corcoran) dropped the ball which is the error but recovered in time to throw the runner out trying to go to second. So no-hitter but not perfect game

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Old 10-08-2011, 06:16 PM   #3
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Nope, he would have been credited with an outfield assist. You're close, though.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:17 PM   #4
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Could be a dropped pop up in foul territory. I believe its a perfect game if no one reached base safely.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:20 PM   #5
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Yeah, Corcoran dropped it in foul territory, then Eckersley retired the batter. The game calls it a no-hitter, but this is a pretty unique one. I think I'd have to call it a perfect game.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:23 PM   #6
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Yeah, I looked it up. It's a perfect game if no batter reaches base safely. That is a glitch in the game that will not come up often.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:40 AM   #7
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Always get people with this when I ask them if there can be a perfect game with the team whose pitcher pitched the perfecto logging an error. This is the only situation where it can be possible.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:38 AM   #8
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A perfect game is no runs, no walks, no hits, and no errors.

This game has an error, therefore it is not a perfect game.
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A perfect game is no runs, no walks, no hits, and no errors.

This game has an error, therefore it is not a perfect game.
Don't believe you are correct on that. The official MLB definition uses the criteria of reaching base not errors that don't allow baserunners to define a perfect game.

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Old 10-09-2011, 11:07 AM   #10
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Maybe the batter reached on an error and then was caught stealing.... 0r he got too far of a lead off, and was picked off....

I dont see that anyone was caught stealing, so maybe he got picked off.

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A pickoff is a caught stealing
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:41 AM   #12
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Another possibility would have been an error allowing the batter to reach first but then he is thrown out trying to go to second on the play. This would be a 27 up/27 down no-hitter. It would not be a perfect game because the batter reached first before getting thrown out at second.

If the outfielder dropped a ball and still managed to get the batter out at first, it would not be an error. It would be scored the same as a standard ground out.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:58 AM   #13
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Reading this reminded me of the Babe Ruth Ernie Shore unofficial perfect game in 1917.

Boston pitcher Babe Ruth started a game against the Washington Senators.
Ruth walked lead-off batter Ray Morgan, griping to plate umpire Brick Owens after each pitch.

On ball four, Ruth became so enraged that he punched Owens, in the face and was ejected.
Ruth is not fined, but draws a 10-day suspension.

Ernie Shore came in to replace Ruth.
Morgan was caught trying to steal.
Then Shore retires all 26 men he faces in a 4-0 win.
Because he didn't start, his perfect game is not considered official.
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Don't believe you are correct on that. The official MLB definition uses the criteria of reaching base not errors that don't allow baserunners to define a perfect game.

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Nice one. I hadn't thought of that before.

My issue with errors on foul fly balls is that most official scorers seem reluctant to give the error, or, they seem to apply a different standard to "ordinary effort" vs regular plays.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:19 AM   #15
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If the error is on a foul ball, this is a perfect game.

Does a player receive an error for dropping a foul ball? I didn't think so...although I suppose it makes sense
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Yes, the official scorer can charge a player with an error for misplaying a foul ball.
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