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Old 09-22-2011, 09:37 AM   #41
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:49 AM   #42
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I'll say again.. is this late week?

I wanna know too!!!! Waiting for final version to finally start a new fictional league.
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:05 AM   #43
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Guys, it'll be next week I did a lot of tweaking & fixing and want to make sure everything is properly tested before release!
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:06 AM   #44
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They flat out lied about it. They said in another thread that they going to save that until 13. How else would they get you to give them another $40.
No, I said the feature was already coded but I left it out because I felt it was no fun. That means it will not be part of OOTP 13/14/15 either.
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:18 AM   #45
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Guys, it'll be next week I did a lot of tweaking & fixing and want to make sure everything is properly tested before release!
Good call. I think the most of us understand it's better to wait a few extra days and get a fully tested final patch than rush something out before it's ready to meet a schedule. Plus I happen to know that there are some really nice hidden goodies coming in this final patch that are going to make some people very happy, and I'm the kind of guy who likes to wait until the end of the day to unwrap his Christmas presents, so a brief delay to make sure all the kinks are worked out works just great for me.
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:28 AM   #46
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Guys, it'll be next week I did a lot of tweaking & fixing and want to make sure everything is properly tested before release!
Fair enough and thanks for the update!
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:57 AM   #47
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No, I said the feature was already coded but I left it out because I felt it was no fun. That means it will not be part of OOTP 13/14/15 either.
Good, maybe that will keep dr wu away permanently
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:24 PM   #48
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While it's a funny story, except if you're E5/E3 of course, it is a very old story. It happened on New Year's Eve, 2009. May I ask what possessed you to bring it up now? (other than boredom while waiting for the next update)
I just saw it for the first time recently. Sorry.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:34 PM   #49
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Good, maybe that will keep dr wu away permanently
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:53 PM   #50
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No, I said the feature was already coded but I left it out because I felt it was no fun. That means it will not be part of OOTP 13/14/15 either.
That is too bad, that is a neat little feature and part of baseball.
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so what is the feature anyways? pay out a players contract during a trade? so i trade Joe bum and since he has one left at 10mil i pay whatever is left of his salary, is that right? couldn't you do the same thing just by including 10mil in the trade? sure I'm not actually paying the contract it would even out in the finances in the end so there is little difference
can see why it was left out
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:47 PM   #52
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That is too bad, that is a neat little feature and part of baseball.
Good point. There are plenty of things in this game I don't consider "fun" but still add to the immersiveness

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Old 09-22-2011, 02:31 PM   #53
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I just saw it for the first time recently. Sorry.
Please don't apologize for passing the time in between updates by providing entertaining anecdotes. It's way more constructive than some posts I've seen around here. Levity makes the time pass faster...3...2...1...Is it time for 12.5 yet?
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:38 PM   #54
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Markus are the finances fixed(expenses) for the last update , we put in a ticket and they said it was just everyone didnt update there version to 12.4
but that was crap because i exported for all the teams and the other co-comish simed and we also chked there game versions to . player expense got jacked up after the last patch so im hoping with the last update it will be fix and you say one way or another on that being fixed , thanks as always
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What happened to the feature where we could pay for the rest of the money owed on the players contract when trading? Or just for the rest of that season?
Can you do that with the "Add cash" feature? Let's say you want to pay for half the guy's remaining salary in return for better players/prospects from the other team. Can't you just put that amount in there, or is that likely to be too much for a team to afford and make the owner POed? Honest question that I don't know the answer to. Just suggesting it as a possible workaround. My suggestion may very well be completely impractical, but I thought it was worth a shot.
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Can you do that with the "Add cash" feature? Let's say you want to pay for half the guy's remaining salary in return for better players/prospects from the other team. Can't you just put that amount in there, or is that likely to be too much for a team to afford and make the owner POed? Honest question that I don't know the answer to. Just suggesting it as a possible workaround. My suggestion may very well be completely impractical, but I thought it was worth a shot.
Oops. Looks like OutS|der stole my thunder. Note to self: skim through entire thread before posting any workaround suggestions since they may already have been suggested.
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:04 PM   #57
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Markus are the finances fixed(expenses) for the last update , we put in a ticket and they said it was just everyone didnt update there version to 12.4
but that was crap because i exported for all the teams and the other co-comish simed and we also chked there game versions to . player expense got jacked up after the last patch so im hoping with the last update it will be fix and you say one way or another on that being fixed , thanks as always
I normally let things I know to be fixed go, but when I run across lines like "but that was crap" I have to respond on two parts. First, was it really necessary to throw an insult?? And second, I'm in TWO online leagues and we ALL switched to 12.4 AT THE SAME TIME the issue went away. I have said many times, we have ALWAYS-ALWAYS-ALWAYS switched all teams in the league at the same time - between reporting periods. We set a date we can all do it together (or else we delay it) and we have almost never seen the problems posted here that are most assuredly problems cause by trading files between different versions. We learned that was the best way to handle upgrades a long time ago and never strayed from that basic rule since.

And PLEASE try and keep these discussions at an adult level without throwing four-letter words round to make your point. That's high school rules.
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wasn't trying to be insulating and i apologize for that it just very frustrating that all the info we could get we that everyone needs to be on the same version and to be pretty much called a lair and not look more in to it is all . we checked everyone version and the version wasn't the case. so there got to be another issue and we just want info on where its now fixed or not


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I normally let things I know to be fixed go, but when I run across lines like "but that was crap" I have to respond on two parts. First, was it really necessary to throw an insult?? And second, I'm in TWO online leagues and we ALL switched to 12.4 AT THE SAME TIME the issue went away. I have said many times, we have ALWAYS-ALWAYS-ALWAYS switched all teams in the league at the same time - between reporting periods. We set a date we can all do it together (or else we delay it) and we have almost never seen the problems posted here that are most assuredly problems cause by trading files between different versions. We learned that was the best way to handle upgrades a long time ago and never strayed from that basic rule since.

And PLEASE try and keep these discussions at an adult level without throwing four-letter words round to make your point. That's high school rules.
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so what is the feature anyways? pay out a players contract during a trade? so i trade Joe bum and since he has one left at 10mil i pay whatever is left of his salary, is that right? couldn't you do the same thing just by including 10mil in the trade? sure I'm not actually paying the contract it would even out in the finances in the end so there is little difference can see why it was left out
That's how I've handled it in the past, whether I'm offering the remaining salary or asking for it. I don't think it needs a special way of marking it.
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wasn't trying to be insulating and i apologize for that it just very frustrating that all the info we could get we that everyone needs to be on the same version and to be pretty much called a lair and not look more in to it is all . we checked everyone version and the version wasn't the case. so there got to be another issue and we just want info on where its now fixed or not
Apology accepted and no hard feelings. I certainly do not post just to upset people but try and remind them that civility goes a lot further than emotion.

What I have to offer is that the two leagues I'm involved with upgraded across all teams and the commissioner at the same time - or "instant" if you will. No files are ever transferred between diff versions.

This usually occurs when a team might upload a file from version A and it it loaded into a version B - THEN A upgrades to B. There is no guarantee that will work.

We set a date after everyone has played their period games. On that date we ALL upgrade to the new version. Once that is confirmed, each team THEN uploads their results to the commissioner. Doing things this way we run into very few problems if any.

When we started playing online years ago, we weren't real accurate on upgrades - sometimes a few teams would upgrade the next cycle or sometimes it would be 2-3 cycles later. It became obvious that was not a good idea. I will admit I have an advantage in that all of our league members are either family or close friends of family and are all contactable by phone. Upgrade nights are a series of phone calls that insure all is updated before we restart the league. One time, all but one upgraded who wa called away on a business trip for a week - we had to wait for him to get back before we could proceed.

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