C² PCL Database - Page 4

Spritze · 08-26-2011, 10:55 PM

Edible means something you eat. In this case a very nice buttery smooth caramel sauce. I think it is all the butter that makes it slide off. I've been forced to put the unfortunate sauce on ice cream and use the failures up that way. Bad luck that.

eriqjaffe · 08-30-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Yes.
BUT
This is the solo league version so solowers who fly solo can play soloey.

The edible version is not yet finished. I can't get the caramel to stick.

I'm having a hard time trying to get this database to load. I unzipped the files into "C:\Users\Eriq\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 12\PCL," but when I point OOTP to the master.csv in there and try to import any year (say, 1946), I get the following:

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The loading of the historical league failed. Please make sure the year is between 1971 and 2010, and the path to the database is correct!

This is with OOTP 12.3.22.

Spritze · 08-31-2011, 06:04 PM

First make a copy of EVERYTHING in the Stats folder that comes with the game. Put them in your PCL folder.

Then overlay these files on that set. It will overwrite what it needs to automagically.

eriqjaffe · 08-31-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

First make a copy of EVERYTHING in the Stats folder that comes with the game. Put them in your PCL folder.

Then overlay these files on that set. It will overwrite what it needs to automagically.

Ah, thanks. I'll give that a try tonight.

Cooleyvol · 08-31-2011, 10:11 PM

Sorry. I was planning directions with this and the modded MLB db that I plan on putting out this weekend.

eriqjaffe · 08-31-2011, 11:38 PM

No problem.

However, I'm running into another issue now - once the league is imported, all the PCL teams get assigned to the AL, the NL winds up with 0 teams in it, and the game won't let me proceed beyond the initial import. I can't edit the structure since it's a historical league.

Cooleyvol · 09-01-2011, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

No problem.

However, I'm running into another issue now - once the league is imported, all the PCL teams get assigned to the AL, the NL winds up with 0 teams in it, and the game won't let me proceed beyond the initial import. I can't edit the structure since it's a historical league.

You have to create a fictional league (I set it in the year I plan on starting). Once you do that, delete the teams and then delete all FA (players will be dumped there once you delete the clubs).

Now go to the screen and import your historical clubs into the empty league.

eriqjaffe · 09-01-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

You have to create a fictional league (I set it in the year I plan on starting). Once you do that, delete the teams and then delete all FA (players will be dumped there once you delete the clubs).

Now go to the screen and import your historical clubs into the empty league.

<smacks forehead>

I don't know why I didn't think of that myself. Thanks, cooley!

Cooleyvol · 09-01-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

<smacks forehead>

I don't know why I didn't think of that myself. Thanks, cooley!

This all would be avoided if the historical PCL was added to the list of leagues you can add to a universe. <hint, hint, Markus>

dcpcarmona · 09-02-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

rename the attachment as noted above and unzip it. You'll find the pcl Lahman style files inside. Use any way you wish.

I'm sure Cooley will have other stuff later but in case you are tired of waiting go with this.

not working for me, any ideas?

Cooleyvol · 09-02-2011, 10:10 PM

Be more specific. What's not working?

AESP_pres · 09-13-2011, 03:50 PM

Spritze or Cooleyvol (or anyone else...) I have a question concerning the database :

Currently I replay the baseball history as it was (working now on the rooster movement for 1893). Is it possible to add it as a new league to my world in 1903 (like I did in 84 and 90 with the UA and the PL)? I do all the move manually and I was wondering if a player jump from one league to another if the game will use the database from the league the player is currently to update the rating each season or a player created from a database rest attach to it forever...

Spritze · 09-14-2011, 12:24 AM

Databases do not cross-pollinate.

AESP_pres · 09-14-2011, 02:18 AM

If I understand you well you mean the players rating won't update accordingly to the database of the league they are in even if the same PlayerID is use? So a player created in the PCL will not use the game database after I moved him to the ML and vice et versa... too bad as it won't work for what I do actually.

Spritze · 09-14-2011, 10:18 AM

You could try to meld them into a single db. We used players Lahman ID's so you could do that if you so chose. Just make the PCL a third major league?

AESP_pres · 09-14-2011, 10:54 AM

This is what I was thinking.

Continue what I do already in my game.

Actually I'm in 1894 with this structure

1894 : Major League ---- National League (12 teams) + American League (empty)
1901 : Major League ---- National League (8 teams) + American League (8 teams)
1903 : Major League (same structure) + PCL

Of course the PCL would be created as a second major league using the PCL database to get the players.

After I will continue what I do actually by making all the teams/players move manually as I did since 1871.

Is it possible by using the 2 databases to do that or the player keep the info from the database used to create them even if he move from the ML to the PCL and exist in the league he moved in database.

Spritze · 09-15-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Is it possible by using the 2 databases to do that or the player keep the info from the database used to create them even if he move from the ML to the PCL and exist in the league he moved in database.

Be most pleasantly pleased to please reconsider this sentence structure. I am unclear as to if there is a question in there and if so what it might be.

AESP_pres · 09-15-2011, 02:03 PM

Now you make me feel like mgom

Ok I'll try to write it in a better way

What I do currently is replaying the ML by simulating everything manually since 1871. From the start I've done all the team movements, players movement and the league creation (NL, AL, UA and PL) manually. So I use the game database only to get the players. All this is done with the database included in the game.

With your PCL database now available what I want to do when 1903 will happen in my game is to add it as a second major league (as I will do with the Federal League later).

What I want to know is if a player created in one database always use his original database when his ratings are recalculated or if he will use the database of the league he is currently in.

This is an exemple of what I mean.

Doc Newton (newtodo01)
1900 : Original import (OOTP database)
1901 : OOTP database
1902 : OOTP database
1903 : Move to the PCL
1904 : PCL
1905 : OOTP database
....

When his rating will be calculated in 1903 (and the following years of his career) what will happen? the OOTP database will be use or the PCL database will be.

Hope I'm clearer this time

Spritze · 09-15-2011, 11:06 PM

In setup you will note that each league points to a single database. Player ratings will only come from the db the league he is in points to. Hence my suggestion of merging the two db's.

AESP_pres · 09-16-2011, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Player ratings will only come from the db the league he is in points to.

So if I follow my exemple if I do like that :

Doc Newton (newtodo01)
Before 01/01/1903 : manually move from the ML to the PCL
before 01/01/1905 : manually move from the PCL to the ML

He will use the PCL database in 1903 and the "stats" database for 1905.

Did I uderstand correctly?

08-31-2011, 06:04 PM	#63
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	First make a copy of EVERYTHING in the Stats folder that comes with the game. Put them in your PCL folder. Then overlay these files on that set. It will overwrite what it needs to automagically. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

08-31-2011, 11:38 PM	#66
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,621	No problem. However, I'm running into another issue now - once the league is imported, all the PCL teams get assigned to the AL, the NL winds up with 0 teams in it, and the game won't let me proceed beyond the initial import. I can't edit the structure since it's a historical league. __________________

09-14-2011, 12:24 AM	#73
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Databases do not cross-pollinate. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

09-14-2011, 02:18 AM	#74
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 3,999 Blog Entries: 25	If I understand you well you mean the players rating won't update accordingly to the database of the league they are in even if the same PlayerID is use? So a player created in the PCL will not use the game database after I moved him to the ML and vice et versa... too bad as it won't work for what I do actually. Last edited by AESP_pres; 09-14-2011 at 02:20 AM.

09-14-2011, 10:18 AM	#75
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	You could try to meld them into a single db. We used players Lahman ID's so you could do that if you so chose. Just make the PCL a third major league? __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it! Last edited by Spritze; 09-14-2011 at 10:19 AM.

08-26-2011, 10:55 PM	#61
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Edible means something you eat. In this case a very nice buttery smooth caramel sauce. I think it is all the butter that makes it slide off. I've been forced to put the unfortunate sauce on ice cream and use the failures up that way. Bad luck that.

08-31-2011, 10:11 PM	#65
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Sorry. I was planning directions with this and the modded MLB db that I plan on putting out this weekend.

09-02-2011, 10:10 PM	#71
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Be more specific. What's not working?

09-13-2011, 03:50 PM	#72
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 3,999 Blog Entries: 25	Spritze or Cooleyvol (or anyone else...) I have a question concerning the database : Currently I replay the baseball history as it was (working now on the rooster movement for 1893). Is it possible to add it as a new league to my world in 1903 (like I did in 84 and 90 with the UA and the PL)? I do all the move manually and I was wondering if a player jump from one league to another if the game will use the database from the league the player is currently to update the rating each season or a player created from a database rest attach to it forever...

09-14-2011, 10:54 AM	#76
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 3,999 Blog Entries: 25	This is what I was thinking. Continue what I do already in my game. Actually I'm in 1894 with this structure 1894 : Major League ---- National League (12 teams) + American League (empty) 1901 : Major League ---- National League (8 teams) + American League (8 teams) 1903 : Major League (same structure) + PCL Of course the PCL would be created as a second major league using the PCL database to get the players. After I will continue what I do actually by making all the teams/players move manually as I did since 1871. Is it possible by using the 2 databases to do that or the player keep the info from the database used to create them even if he move from the ML to the PCL and exist in the league he moved in database.

09-15-2011, 02:03 PM	#78
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 3,999 Blog Entries: 25	Now you make me feel like mgom Ok I'll try to write it in a better way What I do currently is replaying the ML by simulating everything manually since 1871. From the start I've done all the team movements, players movement and the league creation (NL, AL, UA and PL) manually. So I use the game database only to get the players. All this is done with the database included in the game. With your PCL database now available what I want to do when 1903 will happen in my game is to add it as a second major league (as I will do with the Federal League later). What I want to know is if a player created in one database always use his original database when his ratings are recalculated or if he will use the database of the league he is currently in. This is an exemple of what I mean. Doc Newton (newtodo01) 1900 : Original import (OOTP database) 1901 : OOTP database 1902 : OOTP database 1903 : Move to the PCL 1904 : PCL 1905 : OOTP database .... When his rating will be calculated in 1903 (and the following years of his career) what will happen? the OOTP database will be use or the PCL database will be. Hope I'm clearer this time Last edited by AESP_pres; 09-15-2011 at 02:05 PM.

09-15-2011, 11:06 PM	#79
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	In setup you will note that each league points to a single database. Player ratings will only come from the db the league he is in points to. Hence my suggestion of merging the two db's. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!