Help needed with 10/5 question

Raz Algool · 08-21-2011, 06:21 PM

Palli, Markus, anyone -

I just accidentally met the outrageous demand of a veteran pending FA. Wasn't paying attention and hit the 'meet demand' Tab. Now I'm stuck withe guy for five cap-busting years because he's a 10/5 guy who won't waive his rights.

I tried the trick of putting him in the minors to annoy him, but he's really happy to be collecting his salary. I don't see that working.

Question: if I release him outright and someone else picks him up, am I not off the hook for his salary at that point? He is a five star player and I am sure somebody would pick him up now. In two years, when his star level drops,I 'll be out of luck. Thoughts?

revcarte · 08-21-2011, 07:20 PM

i do not know about iootp but in real life (Major Leagues) you would be responsible for most of his salary (except for the player minimum which I think is $350,000 per year) even if another team picked him up. There are numerous examples. I remember the Tigers cutting Damian Easley who was making approximately $10 million per year. When another team signed him the Tigers still had to pay him. There are many, many examples. Sorry, but it appears you are stuck paying this guy.

hluraven · 08-22-2011, 07:05 AM

No, in OOTP you pay the full amount on release regardless if someone picks him up after. revcarte is right that IRL teams would only ever sign the guy to a minimum salary deal though so the old team pays the balance anyway.

Sebastian Palkowski · 08-22-2011, 05:49 PM

Yes, thats the way it works in reality and (i)OOTP. Sorry, you have to pay him out or try to trade him (but with a bad contract it could be hard to move him).

Supernovae · 08-26-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Raz Algool

Palli, Markus, anyone -

I just accidentally met the outrageous demand of a veteran pending FA. Wasn't paying attention and hit the 'meet demand' Tab. Now I'm stuck withe guy for five cap-busting years because he's a 10/5 guy who won't waive his rights.

I tried the trick of putting him in the minors to annoy him, but he's really happy to be collecting his salary. I don't see that working.

Question: if I release him outright and someone else picks him up, am I not off the hook for his salary at that point? He is a five star player and I am sure somebody would pick him up now. In two years, when his star level drops,I 'll be out of luck. Thoughts?

Can you post a photo/screenshot of his player status/morale. I bet he is angry to be demoted, but is happy in all other aspects of his morale. If, what I believe is true, then his overall morale is very happy or happy and that won't cause him to waive his 10/5 status.

I'd look into trying the trick I recommended a few times or leave him in the minors for a few weeks, if possible, especially if he wants a starting role.

RPage · 08-29-2011, 04:42 PM

I have tried to trade 10/5 guys in every version of the game with little or no success. Demoting them is the only way I have seen to make them go. I have posted questions about this in other threads, and still haven't gotten an adequate answer.

Supernovae · 08-29-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RPage

I have tried to trade 10/5 guys in every version of the game with little or no success. Demoting them is the only way I have seen to make them go. I have posted questions about this in other threads, and still haven't gotten an adequate answer.

The way to trade 10/5 guys is to lower their morale to unhappy or angry. The quickest way to drop their morale is demoting them to the minors. Another way to drop their morale is by placing them on the trade block. I started a new MLB season with the Mets and placed Carlos Beltran on the trading block and he waived his 10/5 clause within two weeks. A slow, painful and, somewhat detrimental way is to start losing.

If the player is unhappy with the team results, his personal performance or team transactions (hint: trade very popular players or demote him) or if his playing time does not meet his expectations (wants to start, but you have him benched) then he will be more eager to waive his no trade clause.

Supernovae

08-21-2011, 06:21 PM	#1
Raz Algool Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 37	Help needed with 10/5 question Palli, Markus, anyone - I just accidentally met the outrageous demand of a veteran pending FA. Wasn't paying attention and hit the 'meet demand' Tab. Now I'm stuck withe guy for five cap-busting years because he's a 10/5 guy who won't waive his rights. I tried the trick of putting him in the minors to annoy him, but he's really happy to be collecting his salary. I don't see that working. Question: if I release him outright and someone else picks him up, am I not off the hook for his salary at that point? He is a five star player and I am sure somebody would pick him up now. In two years, when his star level drops,I 'll be out of luck. Thoughts?

08-21-2011, 07:20 PM	#2
revcarte Major Leagues Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mt. Dora, FL Posts: 359	payment i do not know about iootp but in real life (Major Leagues) you would be responsible for most of his salary (except for the player minimum which I think is $350,000 per year) even if another team picked him up. There are numerous examples. I remember the Tigers cutting Damian Easley who was making approximately $10 million per year. When another team signed him the Tigers still had to pay him. There are many, many examples. Sorry, but it appears you are stuck paying this guy.

08-22-2011, 05:49 PM	#4
Sebastian Palkowski Developer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 5,450	Yes, thats the way it works in reality and (i)OOTP. Sorry, you have to pay him out or try to trade him (but with a bad contract it could be hard to move him). __________________ Buy Franchise Hockey Manager

08-29-2011, 04:42 PM	#6
RPage Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 58	I have tried to trade 10/5 guys in every version of the game with little or no success. Demoting them is the only way I have seen to make them go. I have posted questions about this in other threads, and still haven't gotten an adequate answer. __________________ RPage "Don't worry about your seeing eye dog back here ump. I fed and watered him for you."

08-22-2011, 07:05 AM	#3
hluraven Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 355	No, in OOTP you pay the full amount on release regardless if someone picks him up after. revcarte is right that IRL teams would only ever sign the guy to a minimum salary deal though so the old team pays the balance anyway.