Can't make Bobby Valentine or Pete Rose available to coach...

opparaics · 08-06-2011, 05:08 PM

can any one suggest how I could go about doing that?

Thanks,

Opparaics

Big T · 08-06-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opparaics

can any one suggest how I could go about doing that?

Thanks,

Opparaics

Taking a chance on Rose is a real GAMBLE...

To be honest I am not sure, can you edit a retired player and give him coach ratings or does he already have them and doesn't want to coach for you.

Hey, in commissioner mode I found this gem.

Try This:

Action> Turn into Coach

I just turned Hank Aaron into a Bench Coach.....

Big T · 08-06-2011, 05:59 PM

To take it a step further, in commissioners mode once you have made him a coach, you either except the ratings it gives you. In Aarons case they were either unknown or inexperienced or again edit ratings in "editor"

I changed his so that he gets hired....

This is cool... I am sure others were aware of it, but I am the first to respond so I am taking credit for it .....

Chicagofan76 · 08-06-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big T

To take it a step further, in commissioners mode once you have made him a coach, you either except the ratings it gives you. In Aarons case they were either unknown or inexperienced or again edit ratings in "editor"

I changed his so that he gets hired....

This is cool... I am sure others were aware of it, but I am the first to respond so I am taking credit for it .....

So did you max out Hammerin' Hank? In my 1999 league i have 100% accurate Owners/GM's and MGR's and some coaches and have many facegens for coaches that were not ML players. In mine I didnt change anyone ratings except for TLR Torre & Senile Lou.

Big T · 08-06-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

So did you max out Hammerin' Hank? In my 1999 league i have 100% accurate Owners/GM's and MGR's and some coaches and have many facegens for coaches that were not ML players. In mine I didnt change anyone ratings except for TLR Torre & Senile Lou.

No, Firstly I didn't hire him. It was April when I did it and as of mid May he has not been hired. I gave him the following ratings...

Hdl Rookies Average
Hdl Vets Decent
Hld Players Decent
Teach Hitting Excellent
Teach Pitching Inexperienced
Teach Fielding Fair

Mariner and Giants Fan · 08-07-2011, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big T

Taking a chance on Rose is a real GAMBLE...

To be honest I am not sure, can you edit a retired player and give him coach ratings or does he already have them and doesn't want to coach for you.

Hey, in commissioner mode I found this gem.

Try This:

Action> Turn into Coach

I just turned Hank Aaron into a Bench Coach.....

Do you have to do this in the preseason? Or off season?

Big T · 08-07-2011, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

Do you have to do this in the preseason? Or off season?

Anytime you please... I was in already in season when I tried it..

Mariner and Giants Fan · 08-07-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big T

Anytime you please... I was in already in season when I tried it..

I could not find the area on the action button where you can make the player a coach...

Big T · 08-07-2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

I could not find the area on the action button where you can make the player a coach...

Try this....

Start by going into commissioner mode.

Then select the retired player you want to turn into a coach. I picked Hank Aaron.

Then at the bottom of the player page, select action.

This is the list I get:

Hank Aaron
Open Player Profile
Shortlist Player
Compare Player
Create Note
Remove Player from HOF
Clone Player
Unretire Player
Turn into Coach
Delete Player

Select Turn into Coach, I got a message that he is now a bench coach and is accessable in "Available Personnel"

Open up his Profile while still in commissioners mode and you will get the following Tabs:

Coach Profile and Ratings/Strategy Preferences/History/Editor

I selected to edit Hank Aaron because he automatic ratings were either unknown or inexperienced.

Edit as necessary.... Done.

Chicagofan76 · 08-07-2011, 02:33 PM

I am baffled that you guys just discovered this. This is a major feature and both of you 2 have been around for a long time.
But I guess better late then never.

here are just a few of my managers
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3178921

Big T · 08-07-2011, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

I am baffled that you guys just discovered this. This is a major feature and both of you 2 have been around for a long time.
But I guess better late then never.

here are just a few of my managers
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3178921

Are you making fun of me? Are you ? ...... Mauer?

opparaics · 08-08-2011, 10:25 PM

I've already turned Greg Maddux into the next greatest pitching coach

And Mike Piazza is working his way up the Mets system as a hitting coach.

My issue with Bobby V, Pete Rose, and Davey Johnson is that when I click on action there is no option to turn them into a coach. Not sure why.

Chicagofan76 · 08-09-2011, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opparaics

I've already turned Greg Maddux into the next greatest pitching coach

And Mike Piazza is working his way up the Mets system as a hitting coach.

My issue with Bobby V, Pete Rose, and Davey Johnson is that when I click on action there is no option to turn them into a coach. Not sure why.

When you go to player search and type in those 3 former players do they only show up as players? Also I had this issue with Lou Piniella after i had him as a mgr for a previous 1999 league that around 2008 he was no longer a mgr and i couldnt turn him into 1 again. My guess was he retired, but still not sure on that.

You were in commish mode correct?

opparaics · 08-09-2011, 01:01 AM

Yup - I was in commish mode. They all show up as retired players, but there's no action option to turn them into a coach.

I tried in another game, and I was able to with Pete Rose but no luck with Bobby V or Johnson.

ma5685a · 11-04-2011, 08:42 AM

I've got the same problem. It works with most retired players, but there are some that can't be turned into coaches. Valentine, Jimy Williams, etc. Very unusual.

OutS|der · 11-04-2011, 10:05 AM

wasn't Jimy williams already a manager at one time? that might be a reason why, as they might be clones one shows as the retired player they are and the clone is the coach they became but aren't coaching or whatever.

Bluenoser · 11-04-2011, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big T

Try this....

Start by going into commissioner mode.

Then select the retired player you want to turn into a coach. I picked Hank Aaron.

Then at the bottom of the player page, select action.

This is the list I get:

Hank Aaron
Open Player Profile
Shortlist Player
Compare Player
Create Note
Remove Player from HOF
Clone Player
Unretire Player
Turn into Coach
Delete Player

Select Turn into Coach, I got a message that he is now a bench coach and is accessable in "Available Personnel"

Open up his Profile while still in commissioners mode and you will get the following Tabs:

Coach Profile and Ratings/Strategy Preferences/History/Editor

I selected to edit Hank Aaron because he automatic ratings were either unknown or inexperienced.

Edit as necessary.... Done.

Another way, and a bit quicker, is just right click on a retired player. One of the choices in the drop down is "Turn into Coach"

opparaics · 11-19-2011, 06:13 PM

No Rick Peterson as well. Also, there is a weird bug where Omar Minaya, Jerry Manuel, and a few other coaches/GM's are not available personnel but have to be released from their last position.

Amazin69 · 11-23-2011, 05:26 AM

This is something of a continuing issue; recently released personnel are not listed in the "available" pool, but their retired-player listings no longer allow coach-conversion, as the "coach" version was a separate entity in the previous version of the game. For example, in v.11, Omar and Jerry and Asssistant GM Peterson all start out gainfully employed and thus present, but Mike Hargrove, Lee Mazzilli, Phil Garner, Jimy Williams, Larry Dierker and others are not available and can't be converted.

And, of course, there are people like Buck Showalter and Terry Collins who start 2010 "unemployed" (actually in minor-league coordinator or front office assistant or some other unlisted post) but are still considered managerial material; but since they never made the majors, they don't have a retired-player file for you to convert.

Fortunately, the fix is relatively simple if you have the older versions; just find Hargrove/Garner/whomever in there; go into commish mode, record his ratings, and then make a clone of anyone you choose in your current game, adjust the name/body data to fit, and hand-import the ratings. Simple enough, and with v.8 being free and trial versions for other versions still being available (I think), you should be able to patch most of these gaps on your own.

I don't know what the deal is on Bobby V and Rose, though; they haven't managed in America since before the game was created, so I don't know why they can't be converted to coaches but Sparky Anderson (for example) can. (Davey Johnson, who last helmed a big league team in 2000, is another example.) Looks as though it's just pure guess-work there.

tejdog1 · 11-23-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by opparaics

No Rick Peterson as well. Also, there is a weird bug where Omar Minaya, Jerry Manuel, and a few other coaches/GM's are not available personnel but have to be released from their last position.

Why would you want them? Especially that cackling moron?

*throws up*

08-06-2011, 05:08 PM	#1
opparaics Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 11	Can't make Bobby Valentine or Pete Rose available to coach... can any one suggest how I could go about doing that? Thanks, Opparaics

11-04-2011, 08:42 AM	#15
ma5685a Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1	me too I've got the same problem. It works with most retired players, but there are some that can't be turned into coaches. Valentine, Jimy Williams, etc. Very unusual.

08-06-2011, 05:59 PM	#3
Big T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,878	To take it a step further, in commissioners mode once you have made him a coach, you either except the ratings it gives you. In Aarons case they were either unknown or inexperienced or again edit ratings in "editor" I changed his so that he gets hired.... This is cool... I am sure others were aware of it, but I am the first to respond so I am taking credit for it .....

08-07-2011, 02:33 PM	#10
Chicagofan76 Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diamond, IL Posts: 6,339 Infractions: 2/2 (3)	I am baffled that you guys just discovered this. This is a major feature and both of you 2 have been around for a long time. But I guess better late then never. here are just a few of my managers http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3178921

08-08-2011, 10:25 PM	#12
opparaics Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 11	I've already turned Greg Maddux into the next greatest pitching coach And Mike Piazza is working his way up the Mets system as a hitting coach. My issue with Bobby V, Pete Rose, and Davey Johnson is that when I click on action there is no option to turn them into a coach. Not sure why.

08-09-2011, 01:01 AM	#14
opparaics Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 11	Yup - I was in commish mode. They all show up as retired players, but there's no action option to turn them into a coach. I tried in another game, and I was able to with Pete Rose but no luck with Bobby V or Johnson.

11-04-2011, 10:05 AM	#16
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,713 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	wasn't Jimy williams already a manager at one time? that might be a reason why, as they might be clones one shows as the retired player they are and the clone is the coach they became but aren't coaching or whatever.

11-19-2011, 06:13 PM	#18
opparaics Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 11	No Rick Peterson as well. Also, there is a weird bug where Omar Minaya, Jerry Manuel, and a few other coaches/GM's are not available personnel but have to be released from their last position.

11-23-2011, 05:26 AM	#19
Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	This is something of a continuing issue; recently released personnel are not listed in the "available" pool, but their retired-player listings no longer allow coach-conversion, as the "coach" version was a separate entity in the previous version of the game. For example, in v.11, Omar and Jerry and Asssistant GM Peterson all start out gainfully employed and thus present, but Mike Hargrove, Lee Mazzilli, Phil Garner, Jimy Williams, Larry Dierker and others are not available and can't be converted. And, of course, there are people like Buck Showalter and Terry Collins who start 2010 "unemployed" (actually in minor-league coordinator or front office assistant or some other unlisted post) but are still considered managerial material; but since they never made the majors, they don't have a retired-player file for you to convert. Fortunately, the fix is relatively simple if you have the older versions; just find Hargrove/Garner/whomever in there; go into commish mode, record his ratings, and then make a clone of anyone you choose in your current game, adjust the name/body data to fit, and hand-import the ratings. Simple enough, and with v.8 being free and trial versions for other versions still being available (I think), you should be able to patch most of these gaps on your own. I don't know what the deal is on Bobby V and Rose, though; they haven't managed in America since before the game was created, so I don't know why they can't be converted to coaches but Sparky Anderson (for example) can. (Davey Johnson, who last helmed a big league team in 2000, is another example.) Looks as though it's just pure guess-work there.