The 2011 Oakland Athletics Official Thread - Page 15

Green & Gold Heart · 07-25-2011, 12:41 PM

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Anyone has any theories on Barton? I mean, he's hitting under .200 at AAA. I thought he would be solid, but he seems to have lost all confidence in himself.

I read this morning that he is on the DL there now. I don't know for sure what the deal is. But, maybe he's been hurt all season? Seems weird to finally figure it out in July though, if that was the problem.

Green & Gold Heart · 07-25-2011, 12:42 PM

So, who is getting traded this week? That's about all I care about right now.

mirrf · 07-25-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

So, who is getting traded this week? That's about all I care about right now.

Hopefully, anyone and everyone who does not have a chance to be on this team in 2 years.

Rizon · 07-25-2011, 01:53 PM

Willingham for sure. Maybe some of our relievers.

But I really don't care; I've all but given up on this organization. When they make some reasonable attempt at running this club then I'll make another reasonable attempt at being a fan.

mirrf · 07-25-2011, 02:39 PM

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I've all but given up on this organization. When they make some reasonable attempt at running this club then I'll make another reasonable attempt at being a fan.

It starts at the top. Fisher & Wolff are horrible. If the Haas family were here, (heck, even Schott and Hofmann) we'd have a decision about San Jose by now. The whole stadium debate (or lack thereof) is really handcuffing this franchise.

You can blame Beane all you want, but free agents won't come here, and he's trying. Sure, he's been impatient with some younger players and traded them away before their prime. But, he has to take more chances with trades to even have a chance for the postseason.

If we stay pat, we become the Royals. If we trade talent for talent, we run the risk of the Matt Holliday trade.

My main beef with Beane is that he's never had a 2-3 year plan. It's like he sees that pitching staff and thinks "Wow, if we had average hitting, we'd be in the playoffs." Then he trades for Willingham, DeJesus, Kouzmanoff, Holliday, Hairston, et all. When they don't work out, he can't trade them for value. -And we can't afford them at the end of the season.

Rizon · 07-25-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mirrf

It starts at the top. Fisher & Wolff are horrible. If the Haas family were here, (heck, even Schott and Hofmann) we'd have a decision about San Jose by now. The whole stadium debate (or lack thereof) is really handcuffing this franchise.

You can blame Beane all you want, but free agents won't come here, and he's trying. Sure, he's been impatient with some younger players and traded them away before their prime. But, he has to take more chances with trades to even have a chance for the postseason.

If we stay pat, we become the Royals. If we trade talent for talent, we run the risk of the Matt Holliday trade.

My main beef with Beane is that he's never had a 2-3 year plan. It's like he sees that pitching staff and thinks "Wow, if we had average hitting, we'd be in the playoffs." Then he trades for Willingham, DeJesus, Kouzmanoff, Holliday, Hairston, et all. When they don't work out, he can't trade them for value. -And we can't afford them at the end of the season.

Yeah, our owners are horrible.

mirrf · 07-26-2011, 12:41 PM

This was the first time in a very, very long time when I knew we were going to win even though we were down in the mid-late innings. In fact, I can't remember the last time when I had that feeling, it's gotta be 3 or 4 years now.

When Fuentes (!) came stopped the Rays from scoring with a guy on 3rd & 1 out in the 7th, I knew it. I knew we would come back from 2 runs down.

Terpripken · 07-26-2011, 12:52 PM

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This was the first time in a very, very long time when I knew we were going to win even though we were down in the mid-late innings. In fact, I can't remember the last time when I had that feeling, it's gotta be 3 or 4 years now.

When Fuentes (!) came stopped the Rays from scoring with a guy on 3rd & 1 out in the 7th, I knew it. I knew we would come back from 2 runs down.

Ha! This is kinda funny because I knew that the Rays were going to blow it. Our bullpen has been doing it all season with smoke and mirrors, and is finally getting exposed as the mediocre bullpen that it is.

mirrf · 07-27-2011, 05:03 PM

Now that Beltran is traded, you think the A's can works some deals?

Rizon · 07-27-2011, 05:51 PM

I think we can trade some of our big names for more utility outfielder/infielder bust prospects. We seem to be really good at getting those sorts of deals done.

mirrf · 07-27-2011, 06:24 PM

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I think we can trade some of our big names for more utility outfielder/infielder bust prospects. We seem to be really good at getting those sorts of deals done.

We need more corner outfield prospects that have a ceiling of 15 homers.

Faroo6 · 07-28-2011, 03:16 AM

Beane said if he didn't get what he was looking for then he'd keep the group together and take the picks in the off-season. After the last three games, I say let 'em play and lets see if we can make it interesting, ala the Cleveland Indians of "Major League'

Green & Gold Heart · 07-28-2011, 10:44 AM

I hope they don't get any delusions that they're still in the race. There is just too much ground to make up and they'll inevetiably cool off and go through another rough stretch. Where they stand now is that they need to go 43-15 to win 90 games, or 38-20 to win 85 games. It ain't happenin'. Still though I wouldn't give guys away for nothing.

Terpripken · 07-28-2011, 10:48 AM

My Rays can't get out of Oakland fast enough. What a whoopin' the A's have put on them this series.

Rizon · 07-28-2011, 12:18 PM

I heard on the radio the A's hit 233 before the All-Star break and 321 after. Dang.

mirrf · 07-28-2011, 12:20 PM

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My Rays can't get out of Oakland fast enough. What a whoopin' the A's have put on them this series.

That 4th inning was fun for me.

Of course, I turned it off after that.

mirrf · 07-28-2011, 12:21 PM

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I hope they don't get any delusions that they're still in the race.

I couldn't believe anyone in the A's organization thinks we have a legitimate chance this year.

Faroo6 · 07-29-2011, 12:02 AM

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I couldn't believe anyone in the A's organization thinks we have a legitimate chance this year.

I think its less of that and more of "we'll take the draft picks instead of mediocre propects, if that's all we're going to get"

Green & Gold Heart · 07-30-2011, 11:16 PM

Harden to the Red Sox for Lars Anderson, PTBNL.

Anderson isn't the uber prospect he once was, but he's still only 23.

Red Sox To Acquire Rich Harden: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Faroo6 · 07-31-2011, 12:05 AM

Oakland pushes ahead with new stadium plan for Raiders, solo or shared - Inside Bay Area

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o-owner Lew Wolff said this week by telephone that he has no information about the plans.
"We've seen nothing," he said. The Coliseum area, he added, is a great site, but a new stadium would not persuade him to stay in Oakland.

Pretty much says it all right there doesn't it.

07-25-2011, 01:53 PM	#284
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	Willingham for sure. Maybe some of our relievers. But I really don't care; I've all but given up on this organization. When they make some reasonable attempt at running this club then I'll make another reasonable attempt at being a fan. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

07-27-2011, 05:51 PM	#290
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	I think we can trade some of our big names for more utility outfielder/infielder bust prospects. We seem to be really good at getting those sorts of deals done. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

07-28-2011, 12:18 PM	#295
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	I heard on the radio the A's hit 233 before the All-Star break and 321 after. Dang. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

07-25-2011, 12:42 PM	#282
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	So, who is getting traded this week? That's about all I care about right now.

07-28-2011, 10:44 AM	#293
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	I hope they don't get any delusions that they're still in the race. There is just too much ground to make up and they'll inevetiably cool off and go through another rough stretch. Where they stand now is that they need to go 43-15 to win 90 games, or 38-20 to win 85 games. It ain't happenin'. Still though I wouldn't give guys away for nothing.

07-28-2011, 10:48 AM	#294
Terpripken All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,525	My Rays can't get out of Oakland fast enough. What a whoopin' the A's have put on them this series.

07-30-2011, 11:16 PM	#299
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Harden to the Red Sox for Lars Anderson, PTBNL. Anderson isn't the uber prospect he once was, but he's still only 23. Red Sox To Acquire Rich Harden: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com