Computer cheating (Part I)

Biggie Fries · 03-31-2002, 05:22 AM

Game between Atlanta (me, human) and Baltimore (computer), in a fictional league. Extra innings--running out of players. In the top of the 12th, Baltimore pinch hits for last non-starting pitcher, D. Lauer. But in the bottom of the 12th, who comes out to pitch again but Lauer!?!.

Fortunately, we (Atlanta) won. But the computer had no business doing this. We're languishing 13 games under .500. Okay, Baltimore is in a pennant race, and this cuts their lead to only one game; but, hey, our (Atlanta's) next series is with the second-place team, New York, and I have a mind to bench the regulars and lay down for a game or two!

Here is the box score:

Game No.: 994.
8/22/2002:
Baltimore at Atlanta

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 R H E
Baltimore 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 7 2
Atlanta 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 12 2

Baltimore AB R H BI BB K AVG
T. Godina RF 6 1 2 4 0 0 .307
J. Cottone CF 6 0 1 0 0 4 .306
D. Henkel 1B 6 0 0 0 0 1 .290
B. Orvis 3B 5 0 1 0 0 3 .270
D. Paradiso PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
T. Minks 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 .316
W. Laney LF 5 1 1 0 1 2 .286
T. Salvaggio SS 5 0 1 0 0 1 .222
R. Wurth C 3 0 0 0 0 2 .188
D. Carlos C 2 0 0 0 0 1 .323
J. Molter 2B 3 1 1 0 2 0 .240
I. Fernandes P 1 0 0 0 0 0 .109
M. Franck PH 1 1 0 0 0 0 .300
T. Lilley P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
M. Tarango P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143
M. Kincheloe P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
D. Grange P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
R. Mesa PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .258
T. Castillon P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
D. Lauer P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
H. Carrillo PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .235

Totals: 46 4 7 4 3 14

BATTING:
Doubles:
J. Molter (24, 5th inning off Caba, 0 on, 2 out.)

Homeruns:
T. Godina (17, 7th inning off Caba, 3 on, 2 out.)

Runs Batted In:
T. Godina 4 (61)

Stolen Bases:
D. Paradiso (11)

Sacrifice Hits:
I. Fernandes (4)

FIELDING:
Errors:
I. Fernandes (1), T. Castillon (1)

Atlanta AB R H BI BB K AVG
G. Burkholder CF 3 1 1 0 1 0 .255
A. Bennett CF 2 1 1 0 1 0 .299
A. Eury 3B 6 1 2 3 0 3 .278
N. Arizmendi PH 1 0 1 1 0 0 .335
M. Denniston LF 4 0 1 0 1 0 .302
J. Walsh LF 0 0 0 0 1 0 .297
P. Suarez 1B 4 0 1 1 0 0 .248
R. Andino P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143
A. Shutt PH 1 0 1 0 0 0 .266
A. Gutierrez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .125
R. Salas P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
L. Watkins PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .266
R. Bonetti P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .148
J. Brummitt C 6 0 1 0 0 3 .261
O. Gonzalez 2B 6 0 1 0 0 0 .204
R. Weitz RF 6 0 1 0 0 0 .250
R. Gomez SS 5 1 0 0 1 3 .187
B. Caba P 1 0 0 0 1 1 .326
K. Woolford P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
B. Eakin 1B 3 1 1 0 1 1 .327

Totals: 49 5 12 5 7 11

BATTING:

Homeruns:
A. Eury (11, 7th inning off Lilley, 2 on, 2 out.)

Runs Batted In:
A. Eury 3 (53), N. Arizmendi (58), P. Suarez (46)

Stolen Bases:
A. Bennett (7)

FIELDING:
Errors:
A. Eury 2 (13)

PITCHING:

Baltimore IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
I. Fernandes 6 3 1 1 3 4 89 53 3.54
T. Lilley 0.2 2 3 3 1 0 15 7 6.08
M. Tarango 0.1 2 0 0 0 0 11 7 2.86
M. Kincheloe 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 12 7 2.80
D. Grange 0.1 0 0 0 1 0 8 3 3.12
T. Castillon 2 1 0 0 0 3 26 18 1.91
D. Lauer L 2.1 3 1 1 2 4 56 30 3.13 1-1

Atlanta IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
B. Caba 6.2 5 4 0 2 8 105 62 3.84
K. Woolford 0.2 0 0 0 0 2 7 6 4.82
R. Andino 1.2 0 0 0 1 3 21 13 4.05
A. Gutierrez 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 6 3 3.20
R. Salas 1.1 1 0 0 0 0 26 16 4.17
R. Bonetti W 2 0 0 0 0 1 19 12 3.77 5-8

Time: 5:04
Attendance: 36851 (49830)
Weather: Partly cloudy (83 degrees), wind blowing left to right at 10 mph
PLAYER OF THE GAME: Anthony Eury

Game notes:
Thomas Godina set a career high for RBI in a game! Thomas Godina sets a new
season EA-Record for At-Bats with 512!!!

Here is the log (extra innings only):

Batting: Baltimore, top of 10th.
Pitching: Albert Gutierrez

RF Thomas Godina:
Grounds out to the shortstop.

CF Joshua Cottone:
SINGLES down the third-base line.

1B Derek Henkel:
New pitcher: Romeo Salas.
Grounds into fielders choice to the first baseman, Cottone out at 2nd base.

3B Bill Orvis:
SINGLES to center
Henkel to second.
Henkel to third.

LF William Laney:
Paradiso steals second.
Grounds out to the first baseman.

Inning over... no runs, 2 hits, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 10th.
Pitching: Thomas Castillon

2B Omar Gonzalez:
Lines out to the third baseman.

RF Rocky Weitz:
Grounds out to the pitcher.

SS Rosendo Gomez:
Strikes out swinging.

Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Baltimore, top of 11th.
Pitching: Romeo Salas

SS Tory Salvaggio:
Hit by pitch.

C Dominic Carlos:
Grounded into double play, 6-4-3.

2B John Molter:
Grounds out to the third baseman.

Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 11th.
Pitching: Thomas Castillon

1B Bruce Eakin:
New pitcher: Donald Lauer.
Popped out to the third baseman.

CF Antwan Bennett:
SINGLES to shallow left-center.

3B Anthony Eury:
Bennett steals second.
Strikes out swinging.

PH Jerry Walsh:
Intentional walk.

PH Larry Watkins:
Passed ball.
Bennett to third.
Walsh to second.
Flies out to deep left-center.

Inning over... no runs, one hit, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Baltimore, top of 12th.
Pitching: Reginald Bonetti

PH Hector Carrillo:
Reaches on a fielding error by the third baseman.

RF Thomas Godina:
Flies out to short left-center.

CF Joshua Cottone:
Strikes out looking.

1B Derek Henkel:
Lines out to the first baseman.

Inning over... no runs, no hits, one error.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 12th.
Pitching: Donald Lauer

C Joseph Brummitt:
New pitcher: Donald Lauer.
Strikes out looking.

2B Omar Gonzalez:
Grounds out to the second baseman.

RF Rocky Weitz:
SINGLES to center

SS Rosendo Gomez:
Strikes out swinging.

Inning over... no runs, one hit, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Baltimore, top of 13th.
Pitching: Reginald Bonetti

3B Tony Minks:
Grounds out to the catcher.

LF William Laney:
Popped out to the first baseman.

SS Tory Salvaggio:
Flies out to short center field.

Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors.
Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4

Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 13th.
Pitching: Donald Lauer

1B Bruce Eakin:
New : Hector Carrillo.
Strikes out looking.

CF Antwan Bennett:
Base on balls.

PH Norman Arizmendi:
Passed ball.
Bennett to second.
SINGLES down the left field line.
Bennett to third.
Bennett tries to score...
He scores without a throw.

Game over. Score: Atlanta 5, Baltimore 4

Steve Kuffrey · 03-31-2002, 05:36 AM

Do you have the most updated patch?

Biggie Fries · 03-31-2002, 05:54 AM

4b? Yes

Scott Vibert · 03-31-2002, 07:09 AM

Which version of 4.0b, it was released twice. This was a known bug with earlier versions of the game and occurred when the last computer pitcher was pinch hit for... I haven't seen this since the latest patch.

Biggie Fries · 03-31-2002, 07:54 AM

Wow! I guess it had slipped by me that there were two versions of the "b" patch (one dated March 15, the other dated March 16, right?) Anyhow, sure enough, the Readme file pegs this problem. Thanks! Not only is this game amazingly fun and ridiculously cheap, but the support is fantastic.

03-31-2002, 05:22 AM	#1
Biggie Fries Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bryn Mawr, PA USA Posts: 115	Computer cheating (Part I) Game between Atlanta (me, human) and Baltimore (computer), in a fictional league. Extra innings--running out of players. In the top of the 12th, Baltimore pinch hits for last non-starting pitcher, D. Lauer. But in the bottom of the 12th, who comes out to pitch again but Lauer!?!. Fortunately, we (Atlanta) won. But the computer had no business doing this. We're languishing 13 games under .500. Okay, Baltimore is in a pennant race, and this cuts their lead to only one game; but, hey, our (Atlanta's) next series is with the second-place team, New York, and I have a mind to bench the regulars and lay down for a game or two! Here is the box score: Game No.: 994. 8/22/2002: Baltimore at Atlanta 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 R H E Baltimore 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 7 2 Atlanta 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 12 2 Baltimore AB R H BI BB K AVG T. Godina RF 6 1 2 4 0 0 .307 J. Cottone CF 6 0 1 0 0 4 .306 D. Henkel 1B 6 0 0 0 0 1 .290 B. Orvis 3B 5 0 1 0 0 3 .270 D. Paradiso PR 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227 T. Minks 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 .316 W. Laney LF 5 1 1 0 1 2 .286 T. Salvaggio SS 5 0 1 0 0 1 .222 R. Wurth C 3 0 0 0 0 2 .188 D. Carlos C 2 0 0 0 0 1 .323 J. Molter 2B 3 1 1 0 2 0 .240 I. Fernandes P 1 0 0 0 0 0 .109 M. Franck PH 1 1 0 0 0 0 .300 T. Lilley P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 M. Tarango P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143 M. Kincheloe P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 D. Grange P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 R. Mesa PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .258 T. Castillon P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 D. Lauer P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 H. Carrillo PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .235 Totals: 46 4 7 4 3 14 BATTING: Doubles: J. Molter (24, 5th inning off Caba, 0 on, 2 out.) Homeruns: T. Godina (17, 7th inning off Caba, 3 on, 2 out.) Runs Batted In: T. Godina 4 (61) Stolen Bases: D. Paradiso (11) Sacrifice Hits: I. Fernandes (4) FIELDING: Errors: I. Fernandes (1), T. Castillon (1) Atlanta AB R H BI BB K AVG G. Burkholder CF 3 1 1 0 1 0 .255 A. Bennett CF 2 1 1 0 1 0 .299 A. Eury 3B 6 1 2 3 0 3 .278 N. Arizmendi PH 1 0 1 1 0 0 .335 M. Denniston LF 4 0 1 0 1 0 .302 J. Walsh LF 0 0 0 0 1 0 .297 P. Suarez 1B 4 0 1 1 0 0 .248 R. Andino P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143 A. Shutt PH 1 0 1 0 0 0 .266 A. Gutierrez P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .125 R. Salas P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 L. Watkins PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .266 R. Bonetti P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .148 J. Brummitt C 6 0 1 0 0 3 .261 O. Gonzalez 2B 6 0 1 0 0 0 .204 R. Weitz RF 6 0 1 0 0 0 .250 R. Gomez SS 5 1 0 0 1 3 .187 B. Caba P 1 0 0 0 1 1 .326 K. Woolford P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 B. Eakin 1B 3 1 1 0 1 1 .327 Totals: 49 5 12 5 7 11 BATTING: Homeruns: A. Eury (11, 7th inning off Lilley, 2 on, 2 out.) Runs Batted In: A. Eury 3 (53), N. Arizmendi (58), P. Suarez (46) Stolen Bases: A. Bennett (7) FIELDING: Errors: A. Eury 2 (13) PITCHING: Baltimore IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD I. Fernandes 6 3 1 1 3 4 89 53 3.54 T. Lilley 0.2 2 3 3 1 0 15 7 6.08 M. Tarango 0.1 2 0 0 0 0 11 7 2.86 M. Kincheloe 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 12 7 2.80 D. Grange 0.1 0 0 0 1 0 8 3 3.12 T. Castillon 2 1 0 0 0 3 26 18 1.91 D. Lauer L 2.1 3 1 1 2 4 56 30 3.13 1-1 Atlanta IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD B. Caba 6.2 5 4 0 2 8 105 62 3.84 K. Woolford 0.2 0 0 0 0 2 7 6 4.82 R. Andino 1.2 0 0 0 1 3 21 13 4.05 A. Gutierrez 0.1 1 0 0 0 0 6 3 3.20 R. Salas 1.1 1 0 0 0 0 26 16 4.17 R. Bonetti W 2 0 0 0 0 1 19 12 3.77 5-8 Time: 5:04 Attendance: 36851 (49830) Weather: Partly cloudy (83 degrees), wind blowing left to right at 10 mph PLAYER OF THE GAME: Anthony Eury Game notes: Thomas Godina set a career high for RBI in a game! Thomas Godina sets a new season EA-Record for At-Bats with 512!!! Here is the log (extra innings only): Batting: Baltimore, top of 10th. Pitching: Albert Gutierrez RF Thomas Godina: Grounds out to the shortstop. CF Joshua Cottone: SINGLES down the third-base line. 1B Derek Henkel: New pitcher: Romeo Salas. Grounds into fielders choice to the first baseman, Cottone out at 2nd base. 3B Bill Orvis: SINGLES to center Henkel to second. Henkel to third. LF William Laney: Paradiso steals second. Grounds out to the first baseman. Inning over... no runs, 2 hits, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 10th. Pitching: Thomas Castillon 2B Omar Gonzalez: Lines out to the third baseman. RF Rocky Weitz: Grounds out to the pitcher. SS Rosendo Gomez: Strikes out swinging. Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Baltimore, top of 11th. Pitching: Romeo Salas SS Tory Salvaggio: Hit by pitch. C Dominic Carlos: Grounded into double play, 6-4-3. 2B John Molter: Grounds out to the third baseman. Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 11th. Pitching: Thomas Castillon 1B Bruce Eakin: New pitcher: Donald Lauer. Popped out to the third baseman. CF Antwan Bennett: SINGLES to shallow left-center. 3B Anthony Eury: Bennett steals second. Strikes out swinging. PH Jerry Walsh: Intentional walk. PH Larry Watkins: Passed ball. Bennett to third. Walsh to second. Flies out to deep left-center. Inning over... no runs, one hit, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Baltimore, top of 12th. Pitching: Reginald Bonetti PH Hector Carrillo: Reaches on a fielding error by the third baseman. RF Thomas Godina: Flies out to short left-center. CF Joshua Cottone: Strikes out looking. 1B Derek Henkel: Lines out to the first baseman. Inning over... no runs, no hits, one error. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 12th. Pitching: Donald Lauer C Joseph Brummitt: New pitcher: Donald Lauer. Strikes out looking. 2B Omar Gonzalez: Grounds out to the second baseman. RF Rocky Weitz: SINGLES to center SS Rosendo Gomez: Strikes out swinging. Inning over... no runs, one hit, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Baltimore, top of 13th. Pitching: Reginald Bonetti 3B Tony Minks: Grounds out to the catcher. LF William Laney: Popped out to the first baseman. SS Tory Salvaggio: Flies out to short center field. Inning over... no runs, no hits, no errors. Score: Atlanta 4, Baltimore 4 Batting: Atlanta, bottom of 13th. Pitching: Donald Lauer 1B Bruce Eakin: New : Hector Carrillo. Strikes out looking. CF Antwan Bennett: Base on balls. PH Norman Arizmendi: Passed ball. Bennett to second. SINGLES down the left field line. Bennett to third. Bennett tries to score... He scores without a throw. Game over. Score: Atlanta 5, Baltimore 4

03-31-2002, 05:36 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Do you have the most updated patch? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-31-2002, 05:54 AM	#3
Biggie Fries Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bryn Mawr, PA USA Posts: 115	4b? Yes

03-31-2002, 07:09 AM	#4
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,257	Which version of 4.0b, it was released twice. This was a known bug with earlier versions of the game and occurred when the last computer pitcher was pinch hit for... I haven't seen this since the latest patch.

03-31-2002, 07:54 AM	#5
Biggie Fries Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bryn Mawr, PA USA Posts: 115	Wow! I guess it had slipped by me that there were two versions of the "b" patch (one dated March 15, the other dated March 16, right?) Anyhow, sure enough, the Readme file pegs this problem. Thanks! Not only is this game amazingly fun and ridiculously cheap, but the support is fantastic.