Don't be shy with first impressions today!

silvam14 · 06-20-2011, 10:07 AM

This is usually never the case, but I would love to hear some first impressions on the game ASAP.

Specifically, if anyone finds anything cool regarding fictional play that hasn't been expanded upon to this point (hint, hint: World Database enhancements)

Would love to hear it.

Thanks

Peregrine · 06-20-2011, 10:09 AM

First impressions: Really disappointed that I don't have the game yet.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-20-2011, 10:42 AM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned for example is that the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league. So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

Bobbuttons · 06-20-2011, 10:44 AM

I'm sorry, I don't do impressions. My training is in psychiatry.

ricko · 06-20-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

...the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league...

I used to look up longitudes of every city (minor leagues too) to set my divisions. Thanks for this "small" change!

Mr. Baseball · 06-20-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

One thing that hasn't been mentioned for example is that the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league. So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

I love this! Would this feature still be in effect if all the teams are from the same state? My league is all Wisconsin.

Bobbuttons · 06-20-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

One thing that hasn't been mentioned for example is that the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league. So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

This is one of the greatest things I've heard about the game so far. If only random expansion in the evolving leagues worked this way, as well, it would be the bee's knees.

Tony M · 06-20-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

or more precisely the eastern-most teams!

Germaniac · 06-20-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

Oh, I don't think it will hurt

Tony M · 06-20-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Baseball

I love this! Would this feature still be in effect if all the teams are from the same state? My league is all Wisconsin.

Are you using a modified world file to do that or specifically just choosing locations from Wisconsin when assigning team cities in the league setup screen?

If the former then the game will split geographically, otherwise it's down to you if you're deciding the teams.

eriqjaffe · 06-20-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

I'm sorry, I don't do impressions. My training is in psychiatry.

And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens!

Mr. Baseball · 06-20-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony M

Are you using a modified world file to do that or specifically just choosing locations from Wisconsin when assigning team cities in the league setup screen?

If the former then the game will split geographically, otherwise it's down to you if you're deciding the teams.

I just use the league setup screen when assigning team cities. I'm horrible with all the technical stuff.

cody8200 · 06-20-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

One thing that hasn't been mentioned for example is that the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league. So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

I believe another change was that bigger cities have MLB teams, smaller cities have AAA teams, even smaller cities have aa and so on. At least that's what I seem to remember in early beta. The end result is that fictional leagues have a much better feel out the gate.

The Wolf · 06-20-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

One thing that hasn't been mentioned for example is that the game now automatically 'sorts' the divisions & teams by location automatically when creating a fictional league. So you have east coast teams in the Eastern Division etc.

Granted, it's a small change, but it sure doesn't hurt...

That's a nice touch.

The Wolf · 06-20-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

I'm sorry, I don't do impressions. My training is in psychiatry.

Don't be so sure, that was a really good John Vernon impression.

Layton is my Homeboy · 06-20-2011, 04:17 PM

Here is what the financial projections look like in the (advanced) league setup screen (bottom-right). A helpful addition for fictional leagues, IMO.

Layton is my Homeboy · 06-20-2011, 04:27 PM

Here are the standings after simming a few days into the season. Note that when I set the leagues to 3 divisions each, it automatically set them to "East" "Central" and "West" and automatically populated each division with geographically appropriate teams.

If you use two divisions, it will go "East" and "West". If you use more than three, it will go "East", "Central", "West" and "Division". So, if you want more than three, you'll have to set them up by hand.

Le Grande Orange · 06-20-2011, 04:32 PM

I'll let folks know these little items:

When you're doing a historical league and you opt to use real lineups, the game will use the actual as played MLB schedules by default.

The financial settings for historical leagues are based on, or extrapolated from, real-world historical MLB data (subsequently adjusted to fit into OOTP's financial model). What it does mean is that the average player salary throughout your historical league should look much more era appropriate.

Lastly, there are now rudimentary reserve clause era financials available for leagues. These involve the fact that a released player is only paid a portion of his remaining salary rather than the whole thing, and contracts for the vast majority of players are only for one year (it works under an auto-renewal system like that used for players in modern leagues prior to arbitration).

risp2out · 06-20-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I'll let folks know these little items:

When you're doing a historical league and you opt to use real lineups, the game will use the actual as played MLB schedules by default.

The financial settings for historical leagues are based on, or extrapolated from, real-world historical MLB data (subsequently adjusted to fit into OOTP's financial model). What it does mean is that the average player salary throughout your historical league should look much more era appropriate.

Lastly, there are now rudimentary reserve clause era financials available for leagues. These involve the fact that a released player is only paid a portion of his remaining salary rather than the whole thing, and contracts for the vast majority of players are only for one year (it works under an auto-renewal system like that used for players in modern leagues prior to arbitration).

Well, these are exciting developments (to me, anyway). On the final point, do you only get these contracts if you turn off Free Agency? Do you know whether those will occur if you create a fictional league (starting in, say, 1920) and choose the option of having the game model the financial development of the majors? [I'm still at work, but anxiously monitoring the posts of those who've downloaded. Thanks for any info you can provide.

ashantewarrier · 06-20-2011, 04:52 PM

Reserve clause era rules....yes! Maybe only rudimentary but, at least something for us historical fictional players...yes!

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Peregrine All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cary, North Carolina Posts: 635	First impressions: Really disappointed that I don't have the game yet.

06-20-2011, 04:17 PM	#16
Layton is my Homeboy Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Mb Posts: 429	Here is what the financial projections look like in the (advanced) league setup screen (bottom-right). A helpful addition for fictional leagues, IMO.

06-20-2011, 04:27 PM	#17
Layton is my Homeboy Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Mb Posts: 429	Here are the standings after simming a few days into the season. Note that when I set the leagues to 3 divisions each, it automatically set them to "East" "Central" and "West" and automatically populated each division with geographically appropriate teams. If you use two divisions, it will go "East" and "West". If you use more than three, it will go "East", "Central", "West" and "Division". So, if you want more than three, you'll have to set them up by hand.

06-20-2011, 04:32 PM	#18
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	I'll let folks know these little items: When you're doing a historical league and you opt to use real lineups, the game will use the actual as played MLB schedules by default. The financial settings for historical leagues are based on, or extrapolated from, real-world historical MLB data (subsequently adjusted to fit into OOTP's financial model). What it does mean is that the average player salary throughout your historical league should look much more era appropriate. Lastly, there are now rudimentary reserve clause era financials available for leagues. These involve the fact that a released player is only paid a portion of his remaining salary rather than the whole thing, and contracts for the vast majority of players are only for one year (it works under an auto-renewal system like that used for players in modern leagues prior to arbitration).