Combining Rosters from different templates?

[GiantYankee]

I'm interested in creating a fictional league of Negro Leagues and MLB teams from the 20s-50's. I'm interested in seeing how matchups like Satchel Paige vs Babe Ruth or Josh Gibson vs Left Grove come out. I'm using Coopertown's great Negro Leagues template. I tried for example to import players from the MLB 1927 season, but realized that the import feaurte doesn't work that way. What is the easiest way to import players from various seasons or individual teams (1927 Yankees) into a new game with Cooperstown's Negro league template?

[Marberi]

You can import the entire '27 MLB season if that's what you wish or any other MLB season, for that matter. You just have to import each club individually.

Go to league set up --> league structure --> import hist. team. There, you can choose any MLB team from any year and add it/them to your league.

As for players, again you can import any/all player(s) at any given point in their careers. Just go to free agents --> import player and choose the year for the import.

Then you can have that player sign with any club as a FA or you can assign him to a specific club by going to the player's profile and using the editor. It's very simple, really.

Hope this helps.

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Marberi

You can import the entire '27 MLB season if that's what you wish or any other MLB season, for that matter. You just have to import each club individually.

Go to league set up --> league structure --> import hist. team. There, you can choose any MLB team from any year and add it/them to your league.

As for players, again you can import any/all player(s) at any given point in their careers. Just go to free agents --> import player and choose the year for the import.

Then you can have that player sign with any club as a FA or you can assign him to a specific club by going to the player's profile and using the editor. It's very simple, really.

Hope this helps.

Thanks.
So when I go to league set up --> league structure --> import hist. team.
The data--default data---uninstall---defualt folders, etc comes up. After hist. team what folder should I be looking in? I don't believe this is the correct folder to get teams and players from.

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

Thanks.
So when I go to league set up --> league structure --> import hist. team.
The data--default data---uninstall---defualt folders, etc comes up. After hist. team what folder should I be looking in? I don't believe this is the correct folder to get teams and players from.

Right.

When that pop up window appears, open the Out of the Park Baseball/OOTP Baseball 11/stats folder (should be located in the programs folder on your hard drive) and choose either historical_database or master.csv.

After that, you must choose the year. A pop up menu will appear displaying all the existing MLB clubs active during that year. Choose your team and click on "import". That should do the trick.

As for players, it's a bit more complicated than that. Again, you must choose to import from historical_database or master.csv. Then, you must enter the player's Lahman ID. An easy way to find this is by checking players' pages on Baseball-Reference.com - Major League Baseball Statistics and History.

The player's Lahman ID is at the top, where the page's URL is displayed. It will be the 6 digits to the left of ".shtml". Example using Babe Ruth's page: Baseball Players with Last Names Starting with R - Baseball-Reference.comruthba01.shtml. The part in bold is Ruth's Lahman ID. Enter this code on the Player ID field (important: do not copy and paste, as the import won't come out right. Just type it in manually) and then, choose the player's career year that you wish to import.

Just follow the instructions on the import pop up window (fielding ratings for last 3 yrs. or entire career, potential based on remaining years, etc.) to import the players to your liking and you should be set! I suggest importing neutralized stats, but that's just a personal preference.

Unfortunately, I'm not very good at explaining things but I hope this helps. Either way, just lemme know if you have any other questions and I'll do what I can to help.

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Marberi

Right.

When that pop up window appears, open the Out of the Park Baseball/OOTP Baseball 11/stats folder (should be located in the programs folder on your hard drive) and choose either historical_database or master.csv.

After that, you must choose the year. A pop up menu will appear displaying all the existing MLB clubs active during that year. Choose your team and click on "import". That should do the trick.

As for players, it's a bit more complicated than that. Again, you must choose to import from historical_database or master.csv. Then, you must enter the player's Lahman ID. An easy way to find this is by checking players' pages on Baseball-Reference.com - Major League Baseball Statistics and History.

The player's Lahman ID is at the top, where the page's URL is displayed. It will be the 6 digits to the left of ".shtml". Example using Babe Ruth's page: Baseball Players with Last Names Starting with R - Baseball-Reference.comruthba01.shtml. The part in bold is Ruth's Lahman ID. Enter this code on the Player ID field (important: do not copy and paste, as the import won't come out right. Just type it in manually) and then, choose the player's career year that you wish to import.

Just follow the instructions on the import pop up window (fielding ratings for last 3 yrs. or entire career, potential based on remaining years, etc.) to import the players to your liking and you should be set! I suggest importing neutralized stats, but that's just a personal preference.

Unfortunately, I'm not very good at explaining things but I hope this helps. Either way, just lemme know if you have any other questions and I'll do what I can to help.

Marberi you've been extremely helpful and you are explaining things perfectly. My problem is that I can't locate the program file as you are describing. Out of the Park Baseball/OOTP Baseball 11/stats folder does not come up when I try to import team/player. The ones that I referenced earlier pop up. Can you tell me some of the other folders that are near the stats one? Maybe my default is opening the wrong location. I know I'm close but it seems so far!

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

Marberi you've been extremely helpful and you are explaining things perfectly. My problem is that I can't locate the program file as you are describing. Out of the Park Baseball/OOTP Baseball 11/stats folder does not come up when I try to import team/player. The ones that I referenced earlier pop up. Can you tell me some of the other folders that are near the stats one? Maybe my default is opening the wrong location. I know I'm close but it seems so far!

Glad to see I'm being helpful, GiantYankee.

Unfortunately, I have no access to the game right now but, IIRC, the pop up window should give you an option to choose the path from which you can access the "stats" folder, regardless of its location.

In this case, first thing I'd suggest is for you to make sure to locate the "Out of the Park developments" folder on your hard drive, followed by "OOTP Baseball 11" and then, "stats". It should be there, unless you've moved it to another location within your PC. Folders should be in alphabetical order, so "stats" should be next to "saved_games" and/or "templates", if IIRC.

Once you've found "stats", make certain to learn the correct path to the folder and enter it into the pop up window, following the directions it gives you ("previous folder", "next folder", etc.) till you have located the "stats" folder and are able to do the import.

I'm not much of a computer expert, but please let me know how this goes, to see if I can do anything else for you. But in case I can't help you any further, I'd suggest contacting OOTP's tech support to make sure that the problem is not more complicated than it appears.

[Chicagofan76]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

Marberi you've been extremely helpful and you are explaining things perfectly. My problem is that I can't locate the program file as you are describing. Out of the Park Baseball/OOTP Baseball 11/stats folder does not come up when I try to import team/player. The ones that I referenced earlier pop up. Can you tell me some of the other folders that are near the stats one? Maybe my default is opening the wrong location. I know I'm close but it seems so far!

below r 2 screenshots for the screens for team import u want. i had the same problem u r talking about where when i tried to do a team import it didnt point to the stats folder at 1st. U will have to navigate your way to the stats folder under OOTP. I usually hit "UP" til i see My Documents and go from there.

For player import like Marberi said u also want the stats folder and I use historical_database.odb but master works also.

[GiantYankee]

I found the stats folder!!! I created a short cut way back when I first got the game and that's where I found it. After Chicago fan's pic on here I knew exactly where to find it. I just copied the file from the short cut and dropped it into the default_data folder. You guys are awesome! Thanks so much Marberi & Chicagofan!

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

I found the stats folder!!! I created a short cut way back when I first got the game and that's where I found it. After Chicago fan's pic on here I knew exactly where to find it. I just copied the file from the short cut and dropped it into the default_data folder. You guys are awesome! Thanks so much Marberi & Chicagofan!

GiantYankee, glad to hear that. Nothing like good visual aid to get our point across.

CF76, great save man! You've officially become the All-Star closer of the OOTP forums

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Marberi

You can import the entire '27 MLB season if that's what you wish or any other MLB season, for that matter. You just have to import each club individually.

Go to league set up --> league structure --> import hist. team. There, you can choose any MLB team from any year and add it/them to your league.

As for players, again you can import any/all player(s) at any given point in their careers. Just go to free agents --> import player and choose the year for the import.

Then you can have that player sign with any club as a FA or you can assign him to a specific club by going to the player's profile and using the editor. It's very simple, really.

Hope this helps.

What's the best way to import historical players and retain their ratings from the database? Like you said importing the players is easy but the players come in with horrible stats (i.e. Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron) Thanks

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

What's the best way to import historical players and retain their ratings from the database? Like you said importing the players is easy but the players come in with horrible stats (i.e. Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron) Thanks

Hmm...I'm assuming you must be choosing 2010 as the year for the import, instead of choosing a year sometime during the player's career.

For player's ratings to go in accordance with their real life stats, you must choose a year to import from any 3-yr. period within the player's career (i.e: choose any year from 1947 to 1963, IIRC, for Jackie Robinson. Or, 1954-76 for Hank Aaron).

This is extremely important, because otherwise, the AI will import players in accordance to the "present time" in the game. That is, if your league's set in 2010, some of these guys would be very old (if not dead already), hence their low ratings.

To confirm on this, once you've imported the player, make sure to check their age in their profile. If your league is set in 2010 and the player is in his 70's, 80's 90's, etc., then this is obviously the problem you're having. But if the player's profile says he's in his 20's or 30's, then the problem could be in the type of import you're choosing between real stats vs. neutralized stats.

Let's go over this first and confirm if it is the problem, before moving to real and neutralized stats.

Hope this is clear.

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Marberi

Hmm...I'm assuming you must be choosing 2010 as the year for the import, instead of choosing a year sometime during the player's career.

For player's ratings to go in accordance with their real life stats, you must choose a year to import from any 3-yr. period within the player's career (i.e: choose any year from 1947 to 1963, IIRC, for Jackie Robinson. Or, 1954-76 for Hank Aaron).

This is extremely important, because otherwise, the AI will import players in accordance to the "present time" in the game. That is, if your league's set in 2010, some of these guys would be very old (if not dead already), hence their low ratings.

To confirm on this, once you've imported the player, make sure to check their age in their profile. If your league is set in 2010 and the player is in his 70's, 80's 90's, etc., then this is obviously the problem you're having. But if the player's profile says he's in his 20's or 30's, then the problem could be in the type of import you're choosing between real stats vs. neutralized stats.

Let's go over this first and confirm if it is the problem, before moving to real and neutralized stats.

Hope this is clear.

I created a custom league and made the start year 1947. I imported Babe Ruth 1922 season. He was way retired in 47 (38yrs old) but I thought I would see crappy stats like Aaron and Jackie. Not the case. His stats look solid (i.e. 4* Power 92 contact 75). I imported Hank's 1957 season (1* Contact 70 Power 74) I wouldn't necessarily be concerned about Hank except for the fact that he's 1 star. What do you think?

[GiantYankee]

I imported Barry Bond's 2001 season into my 1947 season for testing purposes. His numbers are monterous and seem in line with his 2001 season. He's "36yrs old" in 1947. 5*. I would be completely happy with importing players from any year and the player being the age of the season I imported. For some reason I'm having issues with players that played in the Negro leagues at some point.

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

I created a custom league and made the start year 1947. I imported Babe Ruth 1922 season. He was way retired in 47 (38yrs old) but I thought I would see crappy stats like Aaron and Jackie. Not the case. His stats look solid (i.e. 4* Power 92 contact 75). I imported Hank's 1957 season (1* Contact 70 Power 74) I wouldn't necessarily be concerned about Hank except for the fact that he's 1 star. What do you think?

Well, I'm assuming those ratings must be on a 1/100 scale, right? So, Hammerin' Hank's ratings are too good (excellent contact, very good power) for him to be a 1 star player. As for the Bambino, I think he's spot on: awesome power, excellent contact, just like he should be.

My suggestion would be for you to keep tinkering with the import settings till you are 100% happy with the results you're getting. You'd be surprised if I told you how many imported players I had to delete till I learned how to get them right lol!

I recommend setting stats to "neutralized" for all players, so that you get a level playing field, where everyone is up to par with their real life counterparts.

Glad to see I could help (much more than last time lol) but, lemme know if there's anything else you need.

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

I imported Barry Bond's 2001 season into my 1947 season for testing purposes. His numbers are monterous and seem in line with his 2001 season. He's "36yrs old" in 1947. 5*. I would be completely happy with importing players from any year and the player being the age of the season I imported. For some reason I'm having issues with players that played in the Negro leagues at some point.

You're definitely on the right track. As we all know, Bonds WAS a monster in '01, alright. Juiced up, perhaps, but a monster all the same hehe...also, he was born in '65, if I'm not mistaken. So his in-game age is in perfect line with how old he was in 2001.

All players should be of the same exact age as the season you're importing, adjusted to 1947. (i.e: if you imported say, Doc Gooden during his real life debut season at age 18 in 1984, his DOB in game should be 1929).

As for the Negro League players, I haven't imported any of them yet, but I had some issues with Japanese and Korean players I tried to import once. Which database are you using for these imports?

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Marberi

Well, I'm assuming those ratings must be on a 1/100 scale, right? So, Hammerin' Hank's ratings are too good (excellent contact, very good power) for him to be a 1 star player. As for the Bambino, I think he's spot on: awesome power, excellent contact, just like he should be.

My suggestion would be for you to keep tinkering with the import settings till you are 100% happy with the results you're getting. You'd be surprised if I told you how many imported players I had to delete till I learned how to get them right lol!

I recommend setting stats to "neutralized" for all players, so that you get a level playing field, where everyone is up to par with their real life counterparts.

Glad to see I could help (much more than last time lol) but, lemme know if there's anything else you need.

Are you kidding??? You've been so helpful in both cases and I really appreciate it!!! I'm not OCD until I have to deal with text sims. Don't know what my problem is lol

Originally Posted by Marberi

You're definitely on the right track. As we all know, Bonds WAS a monster in '01, alright. Juiced up, perhaps, but a monster all the same hehe...also, he was born in '65, if I'm not mistaken. So his in-game age is in perfect line with how old he was in 2001.

All players should be of the same exact age as the season you're importing, adjusted to 1947. (i.e: if you imported say, Doc Gooden during his real life debut season at age 18 in 1984, his DOB in game should be 1929).

As for the Negro League players, I haven't imported any of them yet, but I had some issues with Japanese and Korean players I tried to import once. Which database are you using for these imports?

I will import using neutralized stats. I've been using the historcial database but thinking I might try Gambo/Spritze database.

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

Are you kidding??? You've been so helpful in both cases and I really appreciate it!!! I'm not OCD until I have to deal with text sims. Don't know what my problem is lol

You're certainly not the only one, GY. When I was new to OOTP I was pulling my hair out every 5 mins. 'cause I didn't understand a thing lol! Practice does make perfect, I guess. But still, credit where the credit's due and, IMO, it was CF76's explanation and screen shot that was most helpful the last time.

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

I will import using neutralized stats. I've been using the historcial database but thinking I might try Gambo/Spritze database.

To be perfectly honest, I haven't used the Gambo/Spritze DB for OOTP 11. But I did use their previous version for OOTP 10 and it worked like a charm. Besides, if you have any problems w/it, those guys seem to always be around the forums, willing to help out. Good choice, IMO.

[Chicagofan76]

I didnt read the last 3 posts so i might be wrong on this.

But Kev24Fan tried to bring in Gibson & Paige in 1922ish and they sucked...For whatever reason and U would have to ask Spritz/Gambo for clarification...For players that played MLB I have had no problem with them doing what they did IRL for the most part...When I did Paige & Gibson for my ABF league I tracked down their career stats and put them in the game manually. Paige is #3 all time in wins and Gibson was an MVP contender til he suffered a CEI (I unretired him after 5 yrs of retirement, They both signed as FA's with Phoenix)

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by Chicagofan76

I didnt read the last 3 posts so i might be wrong on this.

But Kev24Fan tried to bring in Gibson & Paige in 1922ish and they sucked...For whatever reason and U would have to ask Spritz/Gambo for clarification...For players that played MLB I have had no problem with them doing what they did IRL for the most part...When I did Paige & Gibson for my ABF league I tracked down their career stats and put them in the game manually. Paige is #3 all time in wins and Gibson was an MVP contender til he suffered a CEI (I unretired him after 5 yrs of retirement, They both signed as FA's with Phoenix)

So you put in their career stats and not ratings? If so did you put in their career totals or their best three years? I've just decided that I would try and input stats for each individual player from one of heir top 3 seasons. Every time I log on I'm learning something new from you and Marberi. Much appreciated!!!

[Marberi]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

So you put in their career stats and not ratings? If so did you put in their career totals or their best three years? I've just decided that I would try and input stats for each individual player from one of heir top 3 seasons. Every time I log on I'm learning something new from you and Marberi. Much appreciated!!!

Another excellent suggestion from CF76 that I didn't think of myself lol!

I'm from Mexico and, while OOTP features real life Mexican Summer and Winter League templates, the players are fictional and there's no Lahman style DB for Mex. League players.

So, this is what I did to create true to life Mex. Leagues: I set up my template and edited all fictional players based on their real life info & stats, extracted from The Official Site of Minor League Baseball | MiLB.com Homepage. I only used their stats from the previous 3 yrs., though the sim was very realistic and lots of fun.

Definitely a very recommendable way to go!