FABL2: 1902 HOF Ballot -- Please Vote!

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 01:00 PM

This is the 15th and final try for Deacon White, Doug Allison, Steve King, Gat Stires, Jimmy Wood, and George Bradley. All 6 will be removed from the ballot this time wether they make it or not.

This is also round 13 for Joe Battin.

11 very worthy players hung it up between the transition between 1901 and 1902, and many are considered locks.

Will Fabletown need to build a whole new wing in one season? Lets find out who can be added to the 36 who are there.

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 01:01 PM

Code:

IND  Batter Name    POS  Years  Age    G    AB    H  2B  3B  HR  RBI    R    K   BB  SB  CS  AVG  OBP  SLG AS MVP
1888 Joe Start       1B 1871-82  41  883  3735 1429 118  31  54  498  589   89  166  20   9 .383 .409 .474 10   0
1888 Lip Pike        CF 1871-83  39  931  3778 1486 317  67 146  666  712  118  289   9   9 .393 .436 .629 12   7
1888 Levi Meyerle    3B 1871-85  41 1094  4505 1603 292  81 181  800  799  180  250  33  18 .356 .390 .577 13   3
1888 Fred Treacey    CF 1871-87  41 1419  5716 1844 333 139 248 1162  973  134  370  17  10 .323 .364 .560 17   6
1889 Ezra Sutton     SS 1871-88  38 1554  6249 1853 157 160 253  995 1022  824  439  63   9 .297 .343 .494 14   2
1891 Cal McVey       1B 1871-90  40 1777  7397 2551 407 137  31  846 1039  614  320 160  49 .345 .372 .450 11   1
1892 Cap Anson       1B 1871-91  39 1835  7478 2259 665 160  96 1168 1051  315  300  31  13 .302 .329 .472  9   1
1892 John O'Rourke   LF 1879-91  42 1299  5181 1669 314 181 131  863  735  265  234  18  11 .322 .351 .528  8   3
1893 George Hall     CF 1871-89  40 1095  3923 1230 108  97 140  661  629  209  385  13  11 .314 .375 .498 10   2
1894 Ross Barnes     2B 1871-93  43 2093  8370 2807 543 175  39 1114 1319  240  754  49  17 .335 .390 .456 13   0
1895 Bill Harbidge   CF 1875-94  38 1573  5888 1831 166  92 176  881  874  331  454  14  24 .311 .360 .460  8   1
1896 Roger Connor    1B 1880-95  38 1807  6747 2286 384 199 194 1068 1285  403  969  47  44 .339 .422 .541 16   3
1896 Joe Kernan      2B 1874-95  41 2155  8446 2874 178   2 233 1262 1182  396  629  45  29 .340 .386 .445 16   2
1896 Horatio Munn    2B 1878-95  39 1698  6599 1884 135   0 455 1153 1107  396  648  33  21 .285 .349 .513 12   2
1897 George Gore     LF 1879-96  39 1965  6906 2481 457 125 171  990 1238  342 1336  68  52 .359 .463 .536 13   3
1898 Abner Dalrymple RF 1878-95  38 1892  7166 2266 381 165 140  982 1048  373  621  27  20 .316 .371 .474  7   0
1899 Dan Brouthers   1B 1879-95  37 1762  6804 2092 574  99 164 1055 1120  330  680  35  29 .303 .366 .489  9   1
1900 Buck Ewing       C 1880-98  40 1991  7454 2086 327 129 213 1095 1095  547  839  40  46 .280 .353 .444  6   1
1900 Sam Thompson    CF 1885-98  39 1634  6277 1927 412 179 157  920 1019  278  625  33  23 .307 .370 .505  8   2
1901 Billy Sunday    RF 1883-00  38 2069  8281 2638 252  99 106  874 1254 1231  677  61  43 .319 .370 .411  4   0

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 01:02 PM

Code:

IND  Pitcher Name     Years  Age   W-L    ERA  SV   G  CG SHO     IP    H   ER   BB    K AS TPA
1888 Candy Cummings  1872-87  39 182-126 2.57   0 326 283  24 2822.1 3063  806  373  609  6   2
1889 Al Spalding     1871-88  38 219-123 3.19   2 380 318  29 3179.2 3712 1128  460 1225  8   2
1890 Bill McGunnigle 1879-89  34 223-121 1.86   1 363 327  59 3224.1 2611  668  429 1478  7   0
1892 The Only Nolan  1878-90  34 203-91  2.19   1 309 274  38 2745.2 2421  667  518 1328  8   0
1894 Flip Lafferty   1876-92  39 274-225 2.20   0 535 460  57 4649.1 3471 1136  897  909  7   4
1895 Foghorn Bradley 1876-94  39 274-220 2.65   7 541 443  40 4566.1 4440 1342  840 1054  9   0
1896 Tim Keefe       1880-94  39 308-129 1.74   0 468 414  84 4179.0 3106  810  741 2171 10   4
1897 Guy Hecker      1882-94  38 236-121 2.00   1 372 332  57 3254.0 2561  724  508 1630  8   0
1897 Jim McCormick   1878-95  39 318-239 2.50   0 584 520  57 5077.1 4633 1413  832 1318  5   1
1897 Larry Corcoran  1880-95  36 231-153 1.94   5 424 360  59 3536.1 2488  761  507 1371  6   2
1898 Bob Caruthers   1884-97  34 274-208 2.17   0 511 459  71 4491.2 3574 1082  870 1957  3   0
1899 John Fox        1881-98  39 317-175 2.06   6 568 443  85 4766.2 3910 1090  722 1821  7   1
1899 Dupee Shaw      1883-98  39 315-227 2.00   2 575 521  77 5017.1 3944 1117  837 1218  7   4
1899 Bob Emslie      1883-98  39 286-181 2.43   3 509 421  61 4211.0 3557 1136  866  953  4   1
1900 John Horan      1884-99  37 381-192 2.08   0 600 546  91 5337.1 3963 1233 1173 2313  6   5
1901 Charlie Gagus   1884-00  38 349-183 2.31   2 576 473  66 4807.1 3899 1235  937 4193  8   2

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 01:03 PM

Code:

CH Batter Name    POS  Years  Age    G    AB    H  2B  3B  HR  RBI    R    K   BB  SB  CS  AVG  OBP  SLG AS MVP
15*Jimmy Wood      2B 1871-82  38  767  2998 1031 227  93  35  507  467   87  265  13   1 .344 .397 .517  9   0
15*Steve King      CF 1871-82  42  857  3509 1272 246  67  15  533  523  137  165  13   5 .362 .391 .484 10   0
15*Doug Allison     C 1871-85  41 1065  4258 1241 285  56 102  670  618  103  290   8   6 .291 .337 .457 11   0
15*Deacon White    3B 1871-87  40 1032  3913 1331 191 118  40  599  597   91  208  10  12 .340 .373 .480  7   0
15*Gat Stires      CF 1871-87  38 1123  4135 1262 204 110  90  659  631   94  416  78  14 .305 .369 .473  3   0
13 Joe Battin      3B 1871-89  38 1291  4576 1421 218  43 134  661  755  601  791  19  10 .311 .412 .465  9   0
6  John Reilly     1B 1881-96  38 1643  5955 1681 251 117 258  958 1027  320  617  52  36 .282 .350 .494  6   1
5* Dude Esterbrook 2B 1880-97  40 1901  7781 2217 488 100  18  803  952  429  342 135  66 .285 .315 .380  2   0
5* Joe Hornung     RF 1879-96  40 1952  7697 2163 500 132 125 1011  994  491  377  34  22 .281 .315 .429  5   0
4* Jack O'Brien     C 1882-98  38 1802  6673 1835 415 141 116  830  988  259  840  40  42 .275 .356 .432  7   0
3  George Wood     RF 1880-99  41 2166  8142 2223 490 202  90 1022 1035  700  690  33  35 .273 .330 .416  3   0
2* Charlie Ahearn   C 1880-99  38 1874  7305 1935 131   6  24  641  716  474  308  26  26 .265 .295 .294  1   0
2* Willie Murphy   CF 1884-00  36 1854  6997 1979 123 127  76  815  818  824  321  48  35 .283 .314 .369  2   0
1  Jumbo Schoeneck 1B 1884-00  39 2207  8800 2392 426  51  24  853 1035  520  612  61  32 .272 .319 .340  0   0
1  Lou Bierbauer   2B 1886-01  36 1969  7727 2026 483 121 104  982  980  537  421 399 154 .262 .300 .396  3   0
1  Joe Quinn       3B 1884-01  39 2205  8506 2194 294  97  80  884  944  252  432  49  41 .258 .294 .344  0   0
1  Billy Alvord    SS 1886-01  39 1965  8026 2219 250 190  46  725  930  515  293  48  23 .276 .302 .372  0   0
1  Pete Browning   CF 1882-01  40 2366  9077 2857 529 148 117 1183 1368  344  933  37  58 .315 .379 .444 12   0
1  Darby O'Brien   CF 1887-01  38 1876  7064 1931 382 196 102  991 1006  468  655 471 106 .273 .335 .426  2   1

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 01:06 PM

Code:

CH Pitcher Name      Years  Age   W-L    ERA  SV   G  CG SHO     IP    H   ER   BB    K AS TPA
15*George Bradley   1875-79  27  71-41  1.92   0 119 103  13 1048.1  980  224   96  181  5   4
8  Curry Foley      1879-94  39 256-202 2.86   3 498 414  36 4161.2 4455 1321  760 1827  4   0
3  Charlie Getzien  1884-99  35 263-222 2.69   4 522 427  38 4413.2 4311 1320  687 2175  0   0
2  Fleury Sullivan  1884-00  39 287-294 3.18   1 613 529  42 5314.0 5277 1876 1005 4306  2   0
2  Bob Black        1884-00  38 268-207 2.62   5 526 436  50 4299.0 4145 1251  789 2561  9   0
2  Charlie Hodnett  1883-00  40 255-233 2.90   0 515 458  39 4480.2 4207 1446  976 2137  2   0
1  Hardie Henderson 1883-00  39 402-286 2.48   4 727 653  82 6332.0 5488 1744 1450 3284 11   2
1  Dick Burns       1883-01  38 317-262 3.02   4 638 543  41 5345.2 5171 1793 1303 1558  1   0
1  Emil Geis        1882-00  40 303-227 3.07   0 574 471  48 4937.1 4778 1682  996 1091  5   0
1  Peek-a-boo Veach 1884-01  39 302-207 2.14   2 548 477  75 4770.0 4116 1135  620 2516  9   1
1  Perry Werden     1884-01  36 244-184 2.68   0 468 399  35 4028.0 3582 1200  598 1763 11   1

NOTE: In addition to a pair of players named Wood this year, we also have a duo of O'Briens. Full name needed for any of those players.

The 15th ballot is open.

AsTrOFaN · 05-26-2003, 02:21 PM

Joe Battin
Jack O'Brien
Pete Browning
bob Black
Hardie Henderson
Emil Geis
Beek-a-boo Veach

Dwolfson20 · 05-26-2003, 02:22 PM

Pete Browning
Deacon White
Doug Allison
Gat Stires
Steve King
Jimmy Wood
George Bradley
Peek-a-boo Veach
Hardie Henderson
Perry Werden

LivnLegend · 05-26-2003, 02:34 PM

Joe Battin
Steve King
Pete Browning
Hardie Henderson
Perry Werden
Peek-a-boo Veach

woody5254 · 05-26-2003, 03:24 PM

Hardie Henderson
Pete Browning
Deacon White
Peak-A-Boo Veach

H I Mcdonough · 05-26-2003, 04:51 PM

Steve King
Pete Browning
Bob Black
Hardie Henderson
Dick Burns
Emil Geis
Peek-a-boo Veach

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 05:28 PM

This is tough for me, because I want to get some guys in via balloting, keep some others around, and still give the no-brainers a vote. Here goes...

Deacon White
Doug Allison
Steve King
Dude Esterbrook
Joe Hornung
Pete Browning
George Bradley
Hardie Henderson
Peek-a-boo Veach
Perry Werden (who threw a no-hitter against my Cubbies in the World Series one year)

I'm expecting to have to use 4 commissioner overrides.

LivnLegend · 05-26-2003, 05:37 PM

I've left no secret of trying to help Battin's cause here.
There is only one other third baseman in the hall.
Only three HOF players have more career walks and only four have a higher OBP than Battin's .412. Battin did not have the longetivity of many of the other players in the Hall but there is no doubt he was one of the premier 3B in the league during his era with only Levi Meyerle and Decon White being close to Battin's caliber.

NYJuggalo45 · 05-26-2003, 06:19 PM

Pete Browning
Curry Foley
Charlie Getzien
Bob Black
Hardie Henderson
Dick Burns
Emil Geis
Peek-a-boo Veach
Perry Werden

littleoldman · 05-26-2003, 08:44 PM

Peek a boo veach
P.browning
D.White
J.Battin
B.Black
C.Foley
P.Werden
J.Hornung

blubbla · 05-26-2003, 11:33 PM

Battin might have his best chance with the six pack of other guys out of the way... he'll have 2 shots with a thinned out ballot.

If he doesn't make it, I can assure you he's a candidate for an override.

Springtime_for_Hunter · 05-27-2003, 06:02 AM

I've been a strong supporter of all of these guys, but it sure looks like there's no point in voting for Wood, King or Stires this time around. I'm amazed Wood hasn't gotten more support. I'll leave him on, since I have an extra spot.

Jimmy Wood
White
Battin
Foley
Getzien
Allison
Black
Browning
Henderson
Veach

And let me advertise for Charle Getzien. Compare him to HOFer Foghorn Bradley, and tell me Getzien isn't a hall of famer.

blubbla · 05-27-2003, 12:08 PM

This certainly is the "promote your pick" ballot...

Raidergoo · 05-27-2003, 12:29 PM

Jimmy Wood
Steve King
Doug Allison
Deacon White
John Reilly
Pete Browning
Bob Black
Peek-a-boo Veach
Hardie Henderson

blubbla · 05-27-2003, 04:59 PM

Gonna go ahead and ask for a LAST CALL.

If there is no more activity or no possibility of another vote swinging the voting, I'll close this round when I get in from work tonight.

Dwolfson20 · 05-27-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Springtime_for_Hunter

And let me advertise for Charle Getzien. Compare him to HOFer Foghorn Bradley, and tell me Getzien isn't a hall of famer.

What if you didn't vote for Foghorn Bradley?

05-26-2003, 01:00 PM	#1
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	FABL2: 1902 HOF Ballot -- Please Vote! This is the 15th and final try for Deacon White, Doug Allison, Steve King, Gat Stires, Jimmy Wood, and George Bradley. All 6 will be removed from the ballot this time wether they make it or not. This is also round 13 for Joe Battin. 11 very worthy players hung it up between the transition between 1901 and 1902, and many are considered locks. Will Fabletown need to build a whole new wing in one season? Lets find out who can be added to the 36 who are there.

05-26-2003, 02:22 PM	#7
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	Pete Browning Deacon White Doug Allison Gat Stires Steve King Jimmy Wood George Bradley Peek-a-boo Veach Hardie Henderson Perry Werden __________________

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05-26-2003, 06:19 PM	#13
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05-26-2003, 08:44 PM	#14
littleoldman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dallas,Texas.USA Posts: 130	Peek a boo veach P.browning D.White J.Battin B.Black C.Foley P.Werden J.Hornung __________________ <A href="http://www.ssabr.com"target="_blank"> Career League</A> Once you get there,the map is useless

05-26-2003, 02:21 PM	#6
AsTrOFaN Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Joe Battin Jack O'Brien Pete Browning bob Black Hardie Henderson Emil Geis Beek-a-boo Veach

05-26-2003, 02:34 PM	#8
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Joe Battin Steve King Pete Browning Hardie Henderson Perry Werden Peek-a-boo Veach

05-26-2003, 04:51 PM	#10
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	Steve King Pete Browning Bob Black Hardie Henderson Dick Burns Emil Geis Peek-a-boo Veach

05-26-2003, 05:28 PM	#11
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	This is tough for me, because I want to get some guys in via balloting, keep some others around, and still give the no-brainers a vote. Here goes... Deacon White Doug Allison Steve King Dude Esterbrook Joe Hornung Pete Browning George Bradley Hardie Henderson Peek-a-boo Veach Perry Werden (who threw a no-hitter against my Cubbies in the World Series one year) I'm expecting to have to use 4 commissioner overrides.

05-26-2003, 05:37 PM	#12
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I've left no secret of trying to help Battin's cause here. There is only one other third baseman in the hall. Only three HOF players have more career walks and only four have a higher OBP than Battin's .412. Battin did not have the longetivity of many of the other players in the Hall but there is no doubt he was one of the premier 3B in the league during his era with only Levi Meyerle and Decon White being close to Battin's caliber.

05-26-2003, 11:33 PM	#15
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	Battin might have his best chance with the six pack of other guys out of the way... he'll have 2 shots with a thinned out ballot. If he doesn't make it, I can assure you he's a candidate for an override.

05-27-2003, 06:02 AM	#16
Springtime_for_Hunter All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 846	I've been a strong supporter of all of these guys, but it sure looks like there's no point in voting for Wood, King or Stires this time around. I'm amazed Wood hasn't gotten more support. I'll leave him on, since I have an extra spot. Jimmy Wood White Battin Foley Getzien Allison Black Browning Henderson Veach And let me advertise for Charle Getzien. Compare him to HOFer Foghorn Bradley, and tell me Getzien isn't a hall of famer. __________________ "Only the utterly impossible, the inexpressibly fantastic, can ever be plausible again" Red Smith, New York Herald-Tribune, October 4, 1951

05-27-2003, 12:08 PM	#17
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	This certainly is the "promote your pick" ballot...

05-27-2003, 12:29 PM	#18
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Jimmy Wood Steve King Doug Allison Deacon White John Reilly Pete Browning Bob Black Peek-a-boo Veach Hardie Henderson

05-27-2003, 04:59 PM	#19
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,458	Gonna go ahead and ask for a LAST CALL. If there is no more activity or no possibility of another vote swinging the voting, I'll close this round when I get in from work tonight.