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EagleEye_0 · 05-25-2003, 12:47 AM

Simply that we all use elements (not direct code) from other places, whether its our logos, design, pics, etc... I was not trying to single you out, just that you and Cooley are very respected around here. I removed your name and shouldnt have put it there in the first place. I'm not trying to equate that with ripping of whole sites, but sometimes some members are a little rough to some league just because they use some similiar design. So I was just trying to show that we all do it in some way.

JML · 05-25-2003, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Eckstein 4 Prez
Just clarifying one tiny misconception.... everything you've said here is right phesta, except for one detail. Registering gives two things: (1) a presumption of copyright validity, and (2) the right to sue over the copyright. Thus, a website is protected by copyright, but if it's not registered you don't have the right to sue. If someone really wanted to stop others from copying their material, they could register the site and then sue.

Hmmm... how it was explained to me by an entertainment lawyer is that you have the right to sue either way, but if you officially register the copyright, you don't have to pay court costs for the lawsuit.

Treches · 05-25-2003, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by LedgerSko
I know the iMLB code was copied before Ken copyrighted it.

He shouldn't be surprised given he copied the CBL code to make his as well.

Church OOTP · 05-25-2003, 02:59 AM

Yes, without the CBL code, we would all be lost

run n gun · 05-25-2003, 03:18 AM

id be interested in this league if in fact you have openings give me an email at jeffncyn@localnet.com
ive been in ootp leagues for 3-4 yrs now and love the game so let me know
thanks
jeff

bigphesta · 05-25-2003, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by JML
Hmmm... how it was explained to me by an entertainment lawyer is that you have the right to sue either way, but if you officially register the copyright, you don't have to pay court costs for the lawsuit.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. You could sue no matter what, it'd just be a bit harder to prove with out the official registration.

jksander · 05-28-2003, 01:34 PM

As best I understand it . . . and I am a musician with nearly eighty songs currently copyrighted . . .

(and note, I got this next quote from http://www.copyright.com/CopyrightRe...istration.asp, in case someone wants to lynch ME

)

"Your work is automatically protected under U.S. copyright law from the moment of its creation. Thus filing a copyright is not generally mandatory. However, filing does offer certain legal benefits, and it is required in order to file suit for infringement."

So here's how I would define it.

- If you had a song/lyric/webpage design registered with the copyright office, and someone ripped you off, you could sue and collect compensatory damages for the trouble the infringement caused.

- If you DON'T have a song/lyric/webpage design registered with the copyright office, but you have proof that you were the first to use such material (if, say, you mailed yourself proof via postmark, like the guy did with the Game Show scandals in the fifties) then you have the right to say "I own this, stop using it" and they must comply, but you lose the right to sue for damages.

The other thing is that once you've filed . . . even though the process takes eight to ten months to finish . . . your works are copyrighted officially the day you sign the forms.

Hope this helps!

goon · 05-28-2003, 11:48 PM

Either way, copied or not, the league page looks pretty good. Also, I am copywriting this post, so please don't quote it without sending $.25 my way...

Long_Long_Name · 05-28-2003, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by goon
Either way, copied or not, the league page looks pretty good. Also, I am copywriting this post, so please don't quote it without sending $.25 my way...

Cheque is coming your way.

goon · 05-29-2003, 12:35 AM

05-25-2003, 12:47 AM	#41
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	Simply that we all use elements (not direct code) from other places, whether its our logos, design, pics, etc... I was not trying to single you out, just that you and Cooley are very respected around here. I removed your name and shouldnt have put it there in the first place. I'm not trying to equate that with ripping of whole sites, but sometimes some members are a little rough to some league just because they use some similiar design. So I was just trying to show that we all do it in some way. Last edited by EagleEye_0; 05-25-2003 at 12:49 AM.

05-25-2003, 02:59 AM	#44
Church OOTP Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 273	Yes, without the CBL code, we would all be lost __________________ Church's Bottom of the 9th YouTube channel devoted to OOTP Commish of the late, great iMLB Online League

05-28-2003, 11:48 PM	#48
goon Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 59	Either way, copied or not, the league page looks pretty good. Also, I am copywriting this post, so please don't quote it without sending $.25 my way... __________________ "It's not the kind of car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window!" ------------------------------------------ Baltimore Orioles - Simulated Major League Baseball Detroit Tigers - Natural Baseball League Pontiac Pride - Frontier League NY Yankees - 4Ever League Detroit Tigers - Great American Baseball League NY Yankees - Maverick Baseball League Detroit Tigers - Aaron Ty Baseball League

05-29-2003, 12:35 AM	#50
goon Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 59	__________________ "It's not the kind of car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window!" ------------------------------------------ Baltimore Orioles - Simulated Major League Baseball Detroit Tigers - Natural Baseball League Pontiac Pride - Frontier League NY Yankees - 4Ever League Detroit Tigers - Great American Baseball League NY Yankees - Maverick Baseball League Detroit Tigers - Aaron Ty Baseball League

05-25-2003, 03:18 AM	#45
run n gun Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3	id be interested in this league if in fact you have openings give me an email at jeffncyn@localnet.com ive been in ootp leagues for 3-4 yrs now and love the game so let me know thanks jeff

05-28-2003, 01:34 PM	#47
jksander All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis IN Posts: 1,863	As best I understand it . . . and I am a musician with nearly eighty songs currently copyrighted . . . (and note, I got this next quote from http://www.copyright.com/CopyrightRe...istration.asp, in case someone wants to lynch ME ) "Your work is automatically protected under U.S. copyright law from the moment of its creation. Thus filing a copyright is not generally mandatory. However, filing does offer certain legal benefits, and it is required in order to file suit for infringement." So here's how I would define it. - If you had a song/lyric/webpage design registered with the copyright office, and someone ripped you off, you could sue and collect compensatory damages for the trouble the infringement caused. - If you DON'T have a song/lyric/webpage design registered with the copyright office, but you have proof that you were the first to use such material (if, say, you mailed yourself proof via postmark, like the guy did with the Game Show scandals in the fifties) then you have the right to say "I own this, stop using it" and they must comply, but you lose the right to sue for damages. The other thing is that once you've filed . . . even though the process takes eight to ten months to finish . . . your works are copyrighted officially the day you sign the forms. Hope this helps!