We need an "Undo" button

[BusterKing]

Now that we finally have the save game feature, how about the famous "Undo" button that we ask for every version?

[endgame]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Now that we finally have the save game feature, how about the famous "Undo" button that we ask for every version?

Well, we don't actually "have" the former yet, and as to the latter, let's just plan on asking for that the next few versions as well. I don't know if we'll ever see that unilaterally, but it may sneak into a few specific and problematic screens in the process.

[The Wolf]

11 had mass select.

12 will have game save.

Maybe lucky #13 will include an undo button?

[bwburke94]

Yeah, almost forgot about 11 finally having mass select. Too bad it doesn't work on the free agents screen!

[Cras]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

Yeah, almost forgot about 11 finally having mass select. Too bad it doesn't work on the free agents screen!

No kidding. Would love to mass select and offer a minor league contract.

[Matt Arnold]

Undo would be nice. In my last game, I pinch hit, then threw my new reliever into the game. Then I realized when I started the next inning that my pinch hitter was pitching. Went back to the lineup and I accidentally stuck my reliever in another spot in the lineup. Due up first next inning. Replacing my catcher. While my only other catcher on the roster was hurt. Did I mention this was game 5 in a tied series?

I don't need an undo button to cheat in the game. I just want to be able to go back and undo these little slipups that are obvious flaws (I ended up winning anyways, but it was a close game).

[mbi]

Originally Posted by UWHabs

Undo would be nice. In my last game, I pinch hit, then threw my new reliever into the game. Then I realized when I started the next inning that my pinch hitter was pitching. Went back to the lineup and I accidentally stuck my reliever in another spot in the lineup. Due up first next inning. Replacing my catcher. While my only other catcher on the roster was hurt. Did I mention this was game 5 in a tied series?

I don't need an undo button to cheat in the game. I just want to be able to go back and undo these little slipups that are obvious flaws (I ended up winning anyways, but it was a close game).

I'm probably the only person on the forums who is against an undo button. I understand the reasoning for it and I wouldn't be surprised/angry if it was instituted, but your reason for needing it is my reason for not needing it.

If you are going to manage your games in detail like this (this is how I play and have done things like this before), then you need to make sure you don't screw up. Remember a few years ago when Joe Maddon messed his lineup card up and Andy Sonnanstine had to pitch? I see this as the same type of thing, and more or less you need to be a better manager to make sure that is doesn't happen.

However, I would love a "confirm substitution" button, that may or may not be optional. I have had a few times where I am dragging a player into the bullpen and accidentally drop him into the game. Having a confirm substitution button allows this problem to go away all while not being an "oh no I messed up and didn't realize it" button.

Just my 2 though.

[endgame]

Yeah, it's a personal issue for some. And what happens if I accidentally press the Undo?

[The Wolf]

Then it's a Do-Over.

[fintach]

Nevermind. The post was not needed. It's late in my work day and I did not read carefully enough.

Confirm Substitution could work for me, as I only worry about lineup errors when I have a cat jumping on my lap or something.

[BusterKing]

Ever played with a mouse that sometimes acts up?

Ever have OLD fingers that just not doing the right thing?


Make it an option for the ones that don't want it, simple!

[Layton is my Homeboy]

From a gameplay perspective, I see nothing wrong with an undo button. Those who don't want it can refrain from using it (or it could be an option that can be toggled off).

From a programming perspective, though, this is something that would be surprisingly difficult to implement. Basically, it would require the game to save each intermediate stage in memory and have a way to revert the changes. If undo is just for substitutions/lineup changes then this is reasonably straightforward, but if you want to be able to undo pitches, plays, etc., then it becomes extremely difficult to code and it result in a performance penalty in terms of processing speed.

[towerofpower]

Originally Posted by Layton is my Homeboy

From a gameplay perspective, I see nothing wrong with an undo button. Those who don't want it can refrain from using it (or it could be an option that can be toggled off).

From a programming perspective, though, this is something that would be surprisingly difficult to implement. Basically, it would require the game to save each intermediate stage in memory and have a way to revert the changes. If undo is just for substitutions/lineup changes then this is reasonably straightforward, but if you want to be able to undo pitches, plays, etc., then it becomes extremely difficult to code and it result in a performance penalty in terms of processing speed.

I agree with Layton here. Let's just have an undo button for the substitutions page! I too have had the old finger slip/mouse slip where someone got dropped onto a spot I didn't mean him too. As someone who plays out all his games, would LOVE to see this feature!

[The Wolf]

Would a "Are you sure you want to do that? Y/N" button work? It'd be hella easier to program in.

[mbi]

I really don't see any situations where a "Confirm Substitution/Trade/etc" button doesn't take care of the undo button while not being as detrimental and possibly too tempting for players to use on a bad outcome (right or wrong if that matters).

Plus as its been said, an "Undo" button would take significant coding, whereas the confirm button wouldn't take nearly as much.

If anyone can come up with a scenario where an Undo is needed and a Confirm wouldn't solve an issue I'd be curious to hear what it is.

[kckid4u]

"Undo" this!

[The Wolf]

No! CONFIRM this! (y/n)

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by mbi

I really don't see any situations where a "Confirm Substitution/Trade/etc" button doesn't take care of the undo button while not being as detrimental and possibly too tempting for players to use on a bad outcome (right or wrong if that matters).

Plus as its been said, an "Undo" button would take significant coding, whereas the confirm button wouldn't take nearly as much.

If anyone can come up with a scenario where an Undo is needed and a Confirm wouldn't solve an issue I'd be curious to hear what it is.

The only case would really be in-game if you accidentally click bunt when you meant steal.

I'd be fine with a confirm substitution, since that's roughly 95% of all the "mis-clicks" that matter. Sometimes I really don't want the extra click as it really annoys you, but that's a case I'm sure I could live with.

[fintach]

Originally Posted by UWHabs

The only case would really be in-game if you accidentally click bunt when you meant steal.

I'd be fine with a confirm substitution, since that's roughly 95% of all the "mis-clicks" that matter. Sometimes I really don't want the extra click as it really annoys you, but that's a case I'm sure I could live with.

Out of curiosity, how many such mistakes (the bunt/steal example) would be eliminated if the button assignments were consistent from pitch to pitch?

In other words, would Confirm Substitution and consistent button assignments eliminate most Undo needs?

Speaking of confirmations, there was a thread going for a while that mentioned a confirmation for Finish Today*. As long as we're discussing Undo versus Confirm as a desired button, do people think this is necessary?

*I was not part of this conversation, so if I have this wrong please correct me. I only skimmed the thread.

[The Wolf]

I would confirm substitutions and end today only, but that's just me.