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[pbar25]

Originally Posted by TommyJ

I think like alot of others I think a format for a "Money" league has been needed for some time. It just adds another level of competition to the game. I think the Commish could have plenty at stake as far as monetary gains without being an owner. I could see him taking a portion from the total pool (not amounting to much more than owning an actual team) which would balance things IMO.

I think the idea of keeping teams with different Market Sizes, Loyalties, Media Contracts etc, it creates the feeling of really building a team IMO. I also like the Idea of larger payroll teams costing more ($12, $10, $8, $6 etc). Spacing them evenly throughout the league would also be beneficial.

One thing I don't think people have really thought about is how the league should be configured, as in Historical or Current. I think both pose a set of issues. Modern Leagues come up with issues as far as player creation, historicals with re-calcs etc. It almost makes a Fictional League seem like the best choice for this type of league. Simming 5-8 years for statistics and then allowing people to draft. Just trying to add anything I can to something I think is a fantastic idea.

I think you are spot on about the Commish taking a portion of the pool and having no team.
The main issue revolving around a Commish owning a team in a Money league is this:
Invariably, 99% of the time a Commish spends more time with the file, and fields a winning team.
In a money league, What if the Commish wins? Sure, most people wouldn't mind, but what if he REALLY wins....gets lucky....wins 5 titles in a row........I'd say the league would be dead in the water at that point.

Regarding historical or fictional, that's certainly a great debate. I think with money on the line, GMs will need a baseline to work off of -- as in something they KNOW. With all fictional players, it opens the possibility of the 'trust' factor going down a notch. When Babe Ruth enters the league, everybody knows he's good....so there's a baseline of knowledge there.
When some Joe Unknown gets a talent boost and starts hitting 40 HRs instead of 20...people start asking questions and you just can't leave room for that sort of stuff. So I'd say it has to be historical.

[MikeyB]

I love the sound of this idea and I eagerly await more news and details.

I like the thought of a fictional league setup with fictional players. It doesn't really matter if we know the players as long as we have some statistics to base our decisions off.

[WillieMaysHayes]

Originally Posted by MikeyB

I love the sound of this idea and I eagerly await more news and details.

I like the thought of a fictional league setup with fictional players. It doesn't really matter if we know the players as long as we have some statistics to base our decisions off.

Yeah a few suggestions - I would have scouts/coaches off, ratings 1-100 with no overruns allowed....

If there's money on the line, everything should be wide open and everyone should have a clear understanding of the players ratings and what they actually are. I wouldn't want to win (or lose) because someone had an awesome scout they extended for 450K through 13 seasons. I also wouldn't want to lose because the commish or someone else had access to the player's ratings in the .csv files or statslab that no one else could see. Open it all up. There should be no deception at all with the data. Ballparks should all be the same as well as financials.

[DWK]

Originally Posted by WillieMaysHayes

Yeah a few suggestions - I would have scouts/coaches off, ratings 1-100 with no overruns allowed....

If there's money on the line, everything should be wide open and everyone should have a clear understanding of the players ratings and what they actually are. I wouldn't want to win (or lose) because someone had an awesome scout they extended for 450K through 13 seasons. I also wouldn't want to lose because the commish or someone else had access to the player's ratings in the .csv files or statslab that no one else could see. Open it all up. There should be no deception at all with the data. Ballparks should all be the same as well as financials.

I totally agree with this. This way no one can come back and say they didn't know

[GhillieSuited]

I understand the argument for the commissioner not owning a team however there are a couple of work-arounds to that.

1st. the commish could own a team on another computer (work, friend’s, bedroom not home office etc) so to think that just because the commissioner’s main computer/IP address is not attached to a specific team does not guarantee that the commissioner does not own a team

2nd if the commissioner has just one friend a tit-for-tat system could easily be worked out. “Hey buddy, I will fix some ratings for you. You will win the championship as well as the MVP, CY etc. You will win a boat load of $$$ and we can split it!”

If ya’ll think that just because on the surface it appears the commissioner is not running a team that may not be 100% true. Heck, he/she could be running multiple franchises!

So my advice would be if you have doubts that the commissioner is less than 100% honest then don’t join a cash league. Whether the commissioner owns a team or not, or the league thinks he/she owns a team or not.

That is why I say if the commish wants a team, let him/her. It can’t be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he/she does or does not.

You either trust the commissioner or not. If you don’t, then don’t join or quit. But pretending that just because he/she is not listed as an owner on the web site is no guarantee.

[griffeyin98]

Originally Posted by pbar25

I think you are spot on about the Commish taking a portion of the pool and having no team.
The main issue revolving around a Commish owning a team in a Money league is this:
Invariably, 99% of the time a Commish spends more time with the file, and fields a winning team.
In a money league, What if the Commish wins? Sure, most people wouldn't mind, but what if he REALLY wins....gets lucky....wins 5 titles in a row........I'd say the league would be dead in the water at that point.

Regarding historical or fictional, that's certainly a great debate. I think with money on the line, GMs will need a baseline to work off of -- as in something they KNOW. With all fictional players, it opens the possibility of the 'trust' factor going down a notch. When Babe Ruth enters the league, everybody knows he's good....so there's a baseline of knowledge there.
When some Joe Unknown gets a talent boost and starts hitting 40 HRs instead of 20...people start asking questions and you just can't leave room for that sort of stuff. So I'd say it has to be historical.

I agree and as a commish, I think the biggest "advantage" I have is that I spend more time on the forum making sure things are running smoothly and get to interact and make trades sometimes before anyone else knows the team wants to trade the player.

[progen]

Will be totally surprised if this ever gets off the ground! Of course, right now Sara Palin is one of two leading candidates for the moron party to run for the Presidency in 2012, so I guess anything is possible.