CHEAT Utley

[SWardle]

“It was pretty close,” Utley said.
He shifted his eyes.
“At first I thought it was going to hit me in the head. Fortunately, it didn’t.”
He paused.
“I felt like I thought it hit me, so I put my head down and I ran to first.”
So did it hit you?
Utley paused again.
“I’m not sure.”

Sure Cheat Utley, how could anyone know if a 102 mph fastball ever hit them? Is your middle name liar by chance?


Another playoff blown call dooms Reds - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Wow, this guy really nailed it.

Utley cheated. It is that simple because he wasn't hit, knew he wasn't hit and pretended that he was hit to get an unfair advantage. It was bush league and a poor example to all of the youth who were watching.

Philadelphia already sports the most classless fans of any city and now their players are just as classless. Bleh.

[Cornelius McGillicuddy]

Not at all. We were talking about this in the other thread. This kind of thing has been part of the game since the beginning. It's the way the game has always been played.

[Pete Grassi]

Did you post the same thing when Jeter did it? Its been a part of the game forever.

Originally Posted by SWardle

Sure Cheat Utley, how could anyone know if a 102 mph fastball ever hit them? Is your middle name liar by chance?


Another playoff blown call dooms Reds - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Wow, this guy really nailed it.

Utley cheated. It is that simple because he wasn't hit, knew he wasn't hit and pretended that he was hit to get an unfair advantage. It was bush league and a poor example to all of the youth who were watching.

Philadelphia already sports the most classless fans of any city and now their players are just as classless. Bleh.

[Goody]

Chase Utley = a likeable player for a team that has a lot of money, but not the most money....therefore are underdogs for the WS...with the current salary cap rules. (BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY)...just not enough.

Derek Jeter = A pretty boy player who would be likeable if he wasn't associated with A-Rod and the New York Yankees. A player we wanted to like...even if we hated the Yankees...but still managed to fub it up.

Whatever..give us more Ken Griffey Jr....wait...he played for the M's and the Red's...search for a story about some douchebag somewhere else.

[tylertoo]

Dusty Baker weighs in:

Baker — who played 19 major-league seasons with four teams and took part in three memorable World Series for the Dodgers against the Yankees — addressed the notions of gamesmanship, so-called cheating and whether expanded instant replay belongs in baseball. “I couldn’t tell whether or not he was hit,” Baker said. “It was a tough play. It’s easy after the fact when you have slow motion and everything, similar to the Jeter play. I mean, heck, I’ve done that myself.”

Baker said he appreciated Utley’s creativity in trying to reach base against the intimidating Chapman, whose fastball routinely exceeds 100 m.p.h.

“Heck, in the World Series, I faked a catch, you know, a short hop,” Baker said. “You’re going to do what you have to do. I don’t think it’s cheating, necessarily, like a lot of people want it to be. They want people to say, ‘Yeah, I did it,’ or, ‘I didn’t do it.’ It probably doesn’t work like that.

“His chances of getting grazed and getting to first base might have been a better chance of actually getting a hit at the time. So you do what you have to do.”

So chill, dude. Its baseball.

[SWardle]

Originally Posted by Pete Grassi

Did you post the same thing when Jeter did it? Its been a part of the game forever.

Of course not, because I like Derek Jeter. My outrage over morality is conveniently targeted only at those I don't like. Which is why you probably don't see more outrage from all of the soapbox warriors that condemned Jeter for his actions in the other thread.

Don't be silly man. The crime of the century is always dependent on whether or not you like the person doing it.

[PhillieFever]

I love it when people rip Philly fans, especially when more often than not they've never even been to a game here. Are Philly fans vocal? sure. Do we demand that a player gives his best every time out? Absolutely. Do we accept losing? Absolutely not. That's why the players who play here love it, they know if they win, or at least do their best trying, the fans here will love them forever. Accepting failure however, and calling a first round playoff loss "a good season"(cough *McNabb* cough) is totally unacceptable. That's what my problem with McNabb always stemmed from, he didn't have that burning desire to have to win, like a Chase Utley has. Calling people who you've never even met classless, is what I consider classless.

[damientheomen3]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

I love it when people rip Philly fans, especially when more often than not they've never even been to a game here. Are Philly fans vocal? sure. Do we demand that a player gives his best every time out? Absolutely. Do we accept losing? Absolutely not. That's why the players who play here love it, they know if they win, or at least do their best trying, the fans here will love them forever. Accepting failure however, and calling a first round playoff loss "a good season"(cough *McNabb* cough) is totally unacceptable. That's what my problem with McNabb always stemmed from, he didn't have that burning desire to have to win, like a Chase Utley has. Calling people who you've never even met classless, is what I consider classless.

This is off topic, and I'm not making a generalization and saying that all Philly fans are this or that, but I really think that Philly fans rediculously underappreciated McNabb, and we'll see how much they appreciate him when they don't make any NFC championship games in the next 10 years. I'd say that the whole McNabb thing is the main reason that people make the generalizations about Philadelphia fans, because it was really dumb of the fans to treat him like that, and I would have demanded to be out of there 5 seasons ago if I were him. The man busted his ass on every play, whether he had talent around him or not, and was a winner.

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by damientheomen3

This is off topic, and I'm not making a generalization and saying that all Philly fans are this or that, but I really think that Philly fans rediculously underappreciated McNabb, and we'll see how much they appreciate him when they don't make any NFC championship games in the next 10 years. I'd say that the whole McNabb thing is the main reason that people make the generalizations about Philadelphia fans, because it was really dumb of the fans to treat him like that, and I would have demanded to be out of there 5 seasons ago if I were him. The man busted his ass on every play, whether he had talent around him or not, and was a winner.

I watched him play week in and week out for 11 years, unless you've did the same, I'm gonna take a guess and say I have a bit more knowledge about his ability/limitations. McNabb is a nice QB, his best assets are his toughness(played with a broken leg) and throwing the deep ball. On the negative side, his is not very accurate, and he will not throw a pass unless a guy is wide open, he refuses to throw to "spots" as they say, because of this, he doesn't throw int's, but he doesn't take chances either. No guts, no glory, and what has McNabb done in the biggest games? LOST,LOST,LOST,LOST,LOST and LOST again. After 11 seasons, it was obvious that Donovan McNabb was just not the type of QB who could carry a team to a championship, it he could have done it, he would have, the Eagles were the best team in the NFL on at least 3 occasions, and he couldn't get it done. I'd rather rebuild with a new QB and take my chances that he has "it", rather than keep going with a guy who I KNOW does not.
A couple of other things, how can you call a guy a "winner" who has never won? Besides that, the majority of people here wanted him to stay, it was a vocal minority who wanted him out.If you heard last week, he got a standing ovation when he was introduced. Finally, the last time I checked, Andy Reid and the Eagles traded McNabb, not the fans.

[Cornelius McGillicuddy]

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[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by SWardle

Of course not, because I like Derek Jeter. My outrage over morality is conveniently targeted only at those I don't like. Which is why you probably don't see more outrage from all of the soapbox warriors that condemned Jeter for his actions in the other thread.

Don't be silly man. The crime of the century is always dependent on whether or not you like the person doing it.

Ok I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, because that statement basically makes your judgement biased at best, and hypocritical at worst. Could you please explain further? Or is your point that Jeter got a pass because you think higher of the guy then Utley?

[Hurkman]

The Reds scored four runs in three games. When the Cincinnati fans chanted "cheater" at Utley during Game Three, Utley responded with a home run. Maybe the Phillies were the better team? That's just me talking, though.

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Hurkman

The Reds scored four runs in three games. When the Cincinnati fans chanted "cheater" at Utley during Game Three, Utley responded with a home run. Maybe the Phillies were the better team? That's just me talking, though.

The Reds reminded me of the Phillies in 2007, sorta just happy to be there. They have a very good young team, and will be a factor for years to come, right now though, the NL still belongs to the Phillies. The Giants do not have a prayer. Phils in 5 there.

[Cryomaniac]

This reminds me of that College catcher who faked being hit by a pitch and then got ejected for pointing his bat at the umpire. I can't find the video right now though.