Are you ok with OOTP11 not having any more patches?

[BusterKing]

So final patch was posted on August 27th.

Last post from Markus was August 30th.

It's like all remaining issues are left for OOTP12 to be solved.


You as a customer, are you satisfied with this level of support?

[StyxNCa]

I said yes. I think at some point they have to begin work on the next version so infinite patches would prevent that or, at the very least, slow the progress on the new version to a crawl.

[cody8200]

Yeh, I'm pretty happy where OOTP 11 stands. The more development time they have for 12 means the more stuff they can add and test.

[Bristolduke]

I voted no, since OOTP11 broke the neutralized data options and the ability to play cross era leagues from OOTPX and have been unwilling to fix this in the many patches. It makes 11 unplayable for me.

[Sabermetric Baseball]

I voted no - seems like they could have addressed more bug fixes.

I know that I submitted a ticket to Technical Support in mid-summer, they acknowledged they can replicate the error and logged it as a bug, and it was not corrected in what was apparently the final patch.

I can definitely understand not adding any more new features. Honestly, with OOTP coming out yearly, I don't see any real advantages to adding new features with any patches. All of the freebies just decrease the incentive of buying the next version.

However, one would expect a higher priority to be placed on correcting basic programming errors with the existing functionality of the game, especially errors that have been identified by customers and communicated through the requested channels.

With that said, I've bought several of the past versions of OOTP and will continue to buy future ones. My "no" is more philosophical than any direct dissatisfaction as a customer.

[kingcharlesxii]

Personally - yes.

In general - I think the neutralized stats bug really should be fixed this version. It doesn't affect my playstyle but it seems like a pretty serious bug that makes the game style unplayable.

[HercMighty]

With this game I don't understand why they don't go with a yearly subscription and place a setting in the preferences or stick with Manual downloads and let us be part of the ever changing game. Call them Beta's in between major releases and if we want to help test them, than let us do that...Otherwise we are left with this situation....Think OOTP could advance so much better and quicker...

[Killebrew]

If I keep on getting run-time errors every 3rd time I load the game then I am definitely going to hope for another patch. Failing that, I'm going to have to hope that the permanent uninstall option in OOTP11 is not bug-ridden as well.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Killebrew

If I keep on getting run-time errors every 3rd time I load the game then I am definitely going to hope for another patch. Failing that, I'm going to have to hope that the permanent uninstall option in OOTP11 is not bug-ridden as well.

How many others are getting the runtime error? I've never seen it.

It's hard to patch something that is a problem caused by someone's computer and not the game itself.

[Killebrew]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

How many others are getting the runtime error? I've never seen it.

It's hard to patch something that is a problem caused by someone's computer and not the game itself.

You and I have no idea since submitted tickets are only viewable by the user that submitted it.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Killebrew

You and I have no idea since submitted tickets are only viewable by the user that submitted it.

True but since I haven't ever seen that problem I would assume I don't have anything running on my system that would cause it to happen and that it isn't the game doing it all by itself. If it was a game specific problem it seems logical that everyone would have the problem.

[pstrickert]

I've been a beta tester the last three years. v11, IMO, is by far the best version. But it is also the worst with regard to leftover bugs.

[Killebrew]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

True but since I haven't ever seen that problem I would assume I don't have anything running on my system that would cause it to happen and that it isn't the game doing it all by itself. If it was a game specific problem it seems logical that everyone would have the problem.

That is not accurate. It might be a game specific problem based on user settings, with nothing whatsoever to do with the users PC, browser, et al..

In an effort to find out if other users have also submitted runtime error tickets related to versions 11.2.18 and 11.2.23 I will post my bug reports in the games general forums going forward.

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Killebrew

That is not accurate. It might be a game specific problem based on user settings, with nothing whatsoever to do with the users PC, browser, et al..

In an effort to find out if other users have also submitted runtime error tickets related to versions 11.2.18 and 11.2.23 I will post my bug reports in the games general forums going forward.

Ok. Well don't hold your breath till a patch fixes it. There is no way OOTP can patch every single issue for every single system setup there is.

[Killebrew]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Ok. Well don't hold your breath till a patch fixes it. There is no way OOTP can patch every single issue for every single system setup there is.

I said game settings, not system settings .

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by Killebrew

I said game settings, not system settings .

I know you did.

I tell you what. If you're that sure your system has nothing to do with it, tell me all of your settings and I'll create a league exactly the same way and see if I get the error too.

[Tom the Fish]

I'm mostly satisfied, but in the future I'd like to see your choices in the player menus stick. When I go to look at the pitchers, it often resets to their batting stats, and during spring training, it always defaults to their overall stats. After I've gone to look at the Hall of Fame or other history sections, it switches to the lifetime stats. Very annoying.

Tom

[Killebrew]

Originally Posted by StyxNCa

I know you did.

I tell you what. If you're that sure your system has nothing to do with it, tell me all of your settings and I'll create a league exactly the same way and see if I get the error too.

I assume you are working and/or responding on behalf of OOTP, perhaps in a beta tester capacity? If yes, how about trying to update player pictures in the game, regardless of any league specific settings.

Instructions: Go to ...
OOTP --> GAME SETUP --> PLAYER PICTURES tab --> "Update / Generate Player Pictures" option (right side of screen).

[Sabermetric Baseball]

Originally Posted by Killebrew

I assume you are working and/or responding on behalf of OOTP, perhaps in a beta tester capacity?

I can vouch for StyxNCa - he is not affiliated with OOTP, just an enthusiastic customer.

Originally Posted by Killebrew

You and I have no idea since submitted tickets are only viewable by the user that submitted it.

I've found that to be curious as well. I can understand creating a ticketing system to organize the bugs piling in - the message board approach was a mess and it took weeks before a message was even acknowledged.

However, there's significant advantages to opening the ticketing system out to the public. This would cut down on the duplicate tickets submitted, and also allow other users to identify when a ticket is not a legitimate bug or assist with user-error. A lot of time is being wasted with the private system, which could be a reason that a significant number of bugs have gone unresolved with this version.

[Killing Time]

Originally Posted by pstrickert

i've been a beta tester the last three years. V11, imo, is by far the best version. But it is also the worst with regard to leftover bugs.

qft