HOF Monitor in Cato`s utility

[khucke]

One of the things I like most in Cato`s utility is the HOF Monitor. In the "real" HOF monitor on www.baseball reference points are assigned for having won the MVP award. but there is no such thing as best better, as is in Cato`s utility. How are Points assigned here?

[Bamma]

There is a hall of fame monitor in cato's utility? I have never sen that. How do i find the monitor for hall of fame? Where is it located? Thanks for the info.

[AngelinOF]

I think this is the scoring system that Cato uses since its located in his help file:

Hall of Fame Career Standards Test
This test gives a score of 50 for an average Hall of Famer, with 100 as the max score. It is used to measure the overall quality of a player's career as opposed to singular brilliance (peak value).

Also, I require a minimum of 20 points in this metric before the value is displayed for a player. Anything below that is meaningless.

This can be found in James's book on pp. 174-176. All values are for career marks, and I've required 1000 at bats or 500 IP for the rate stats to kick in.

Batting Statistics
One point for each 150 hits above 1500, limit 10.
One point for each .005 of batting average above .275, limit 9
One point for batting over .300
One point for each 100 runs over 900, limit 8.
One point for scoring more than .500 runs per game.
One point for scoring more than .644 runs per game.
One point for each 100 rbi's over 800, limit 8.
One point for driving in more than .500 runs per game.
One point for driving in more than .600 runs per game.
One point for each .025 of slugging percentage above .300, limit 10
One point for each .010 of on-base percentage above .300, limit 10
One point for each 200 home runs.
One point if home runs are more than 10% of hits.
One point if home runs are more than 20% of hits.
One point for each 200 extra base hits over 300, limit 5.
One point for each 200 walks hits over 300, limit 5.
One point for each 100 stolen bases, limit 5.
Defensive value: 20 points for catcher, 16 - shortstop, 14 - second base, 13 - third base, 12 - center fielder, 6 - right fielder, 3 - left fielder, 1 - first baseman, 0 - designated hitter

Pitching Statistics
One point for each 10 wins over 100, limit 25.
One point for each .013 of winning percentage above .500, limit 15.
One point for each 20 games over .500, limit 10.
One point for each .20 of ERA below 4.00, limit 10.
One point for each 200 strikeouts over 1000, limit 10.
One point for each .30 of BB/9IP below 4.00, limit 10.
One point for each .30 of H/9IP below 10.00, limit 10.
One point for each 1000 innings above 1000, limit 5.
One point for each 100 complete games above 200, limit 5. Changed from James's slightly
One point for each 30 shutouts, limit 5. Changed from James's slightly

*Although I am not sure on the 100 points possible since I have a couple of pitchers who are over 100.
**Just realized what I posted is the HOF Career Standards and its also the only thing I can find listed with Cato's utility I don't believe it lists the HOF Monitor.

[Goody]

Originally posted by Bamma
There is a hall of fame monitor in cato's utility? I have never sen that. How do i find the monitor for hall of fame? Where is it located? Thanks for the info.

Leaderboards...at the bottom. HOF standards

[AngelinOF]

Originally posted by Goody
Leaderboards...at the bottom. HOF standards

That isn't the HOF Monitor. Cato's utility only shows the Hall of Fame career standards test whereas baseball-reference.com has both the HOF career standards test and the HOF monitor. Both are very similar to one another but have slight differneces.

The HOF Career standards is almost strictly stat based with extra points depending on what position the player played.

The HOF Monitor takes into account outside factors aside from just giving points to a players' stats. It assigns points for MVPs, gold gloves, all-star game selections, WS starts, etc.

Here is a link to the explanation at baseball-reference.

[Cato]

Yeah, the Monitor is a little too complex to calculate. Alot of that information is not readily available in the database.

And I don't think I put anything in the Standards calculation to limit it to 100, so it shows whatever it calcs out to be.