Pitcher warm-up questions

sid316 · 06-25-2010, 08:51 PM

Two questions regarding warming-up pitchers.
I just played a game in which there was a rain delay in the sixth inning. When the game resumed the starter was listed as tired, but, of course, any reliever I put in the bullpen was cold. Is there any way around that? Also, it seems to take too long a time for relievers to warm-up up. Is there any way to change that?
One other thing. Is there a way to see what part of the order is due up when you are considering making a change? Sometimes I won't remember who is due up, but I can't seem to find a way to see the batting order.

Biggio509 · 06-26-2010, 12:27 AM

I am not sure if there is anything you can do but put in a cold pitcher or let the starter go until someone warms up for question 1.

Question 2.

Yes, if you look at the opponents substitution page you should see the lineup and it should show who is up next.

Libid21 · 06-26-2010, 03:11 AM

This is another problem that should be addressed... they should have it so that it shows how long the delay is getting and once you see that it's lasting longer than you want it to, you should be able to go ahead and warm a pitcher up in the bullpen.

sid316 · 06-26-2010, 09:01 AM

Unless I am missing something I don't see who is due up next on the opponent's substitution page. I see the batting order, but not who the next batter is.

DCG12 · 06-26-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sid316

Unless I am missing something I don't see who is due up next on the opponent's substitution page. I see the batting order, but not who the next batter is.

You have to look closely as the next hitter is "highlighted" with a beige tag. Not the best color choice. See Beltre batting 9th here.

Sweed · 06-26-2010, 10:40 AM

For number one I use a workaround. If there is rain in the forecast I get my long reliever up in the pen in the first inning. As the game progresses I will get up my middle or short men so I am always ready for any rain delays that may occur. There is no fatigue penalty to the pitcher (another topic for another time) in doing so and it prevents the unrealistic "cold pitcher" situation.

Another workaround would be to turn of pitcher warmups in games with rain in the forecast.

It would of course be better if OOTP handled this differently but until it does I don't see what I am doing as cheating or exploiting the game, remember the AI is not going to bring in a cold pitcher in the same situation. I am simply using the best workaround I have found to remedy a short coming in OOTP.

sid316 · 06-26-2010, 03:43 PM

Is it possible to change the warm-up rule in the middle of a season?

thbroman · 06-26-2010, 04:37 PM

You're asking about warm up/no warm-up? That's an option that can be changed game by game.

sid316 · 06-26-2010, 05:50 PM

Thanks thbroman. I haven't been able to figure out how to do it.

Sweed · 06-26-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sid316

Thanks thbroman. I haven't been able to figure out how to do it.

You can change it on the left side of the first screen you see when you start a game. Look around where you set the pbp settings etc. Keep in mind if you use this for rain forecast days only it will stick. You will need to set it back to "on" if you want to use it the next game.

Left-handed Badger · 06-26-2010, 06:41 PM

I never use the warmup option. Back in the day when I first started on OOTP, the opposition wasnt obligated to warmup pitchers, so I decided not to bother either.

endgame · 06-26-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger

I never use the warmup option. Back in the day when I first started on OOTP, the opposition wasnt obligated to warmup pitchers, so I decided not to bother either.

Exactly. Let's hope we see this attempted in v12.

Sweed · 06-26-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger

I never use the warmup option. Back in the day when I first started on OOTP, the opposition wasnt obligated to warmup pitchers, so I decided not to bother either.

I understand your reasoning. However, I like that it makes me think ahead instead of being able to just plug in whoever I want whenever I want.

As far as the AI, I don't begrudge it this one small advantage it has over the human player.

thbroman · 06-26-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

I understand your reasoning. However, I like that it makes me think ahead instead of being able to just plug in whoever I want whenever I want.

As far as the AI, I don't begrudge it this one small advantage it has over the human player.

That's kind of my thinking too. I like having to wait for a reliever to get ready while my tiring starter looks ever more hittable!

Afino · 06-26-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

For number one I use a workaround. If there is rain in the forecast I get my long reliever up in the pen in the first inning. As the game progresses I will get up my middle or short men so I am always ready for any rain delays that may occur. There is no fatigue penalty to the pitcher (another topic for another time) in doing so and it prevents the unrealistic "cold pitcher" situation.

This.

Been doing this for a long time.

SamP · 10-31-2010, 12:54 PM

Not having to warm up a pitcher after a rain delay over a certain amount of time or after an injury should definitely be in the game. Not to mention you should also be able to see who is warming up for the other team (obviously that implies that the cpu would have to warm up their pitchers)

micropterus58 · 10-31-2010, 01:16 PM

I recently had a game with a 41 minute rain delay during the 5th or 6th inning. After the delay my team was at bat so I warmed up a reliever because I thought the rain delay may effect my starter. My starter pitched well so the game does not seem to be take rain delays in to consideration. I think this should be added along with the AI not warming up their pitchers.

Sweed · 10-31-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SamP

Not having to warm up a pitcher after a rain delay over a certain amount of time or after an injury should definitely be in the game. Not to mention you should also be able to see who is warming up for the other team (obviously that implies that the cpu would have to warm up their pitchers)

Unless something has changed OOTP has always been coded so a P coming in to replace an injured P is already warm (IE no warm up is needed in this situation). Not sure why this code couldn't be worked into rain delays but then I'm not a coder.

Sweed · 10-31-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by micropterus58

I recently had a game with a 41 minute rain delay during the 5th or 6th inning. After the delay my team was at bat so I warmed up a reliever because I thought the rain delay may effect my starter. My starter pitched well so the game does not seem to be take rain delays in to consideration. I think this should be added along with the AI not warming up their pitchers.

How long did he pitch after the delay? The amount of time of delay has an effect. 41 minutes might be border line on if he can come back and for how long.

My experience is the P can almost always come back and pitch but will hit tired\exhausted very quickly, usually after a few pitches following a long delay.

Questdog · 10-31-2010, 02:44 PM

My solution has been to do away with rain delays.

Since games never get rained out and the delay can sometimes happen and not be noticed until it's too late, I've just gotten rid of them.....

06-25-2010, 08:51 PM	#1
sid316 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seaford, VA Posts: 12	Pitcher warm-up questions Two questions regarding warming-up pitchers. I just played a game in which there was a rain delay in the sixth inning. When the game resumed the starter was listed as tired, but, of course, any reliever I put in the bullpen was cold. Is there any way around that? Also, it seems to take too long a time for relievers to warm-up up. Is there any way to change that? One other thing. Is there a way to see what part of the order is due up when you are considering making a change? Sometimes I won't remember who is due up, but I can't seem to find a way to see the batting order.

06-26-2010, 06:41 PM	#11
Left-handed Badger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: at the altar of the baseball god praying for middle infield that can catch the ball Posts: 2,036	I never use the warmup option. Back in the day when I first started on OOTP, the opposition wasnt obligated to warmup pitchers, so I decided not to bother either. __________________ -Left-handed groundball specialist -Strikeouts are for wimps

06-26-2010, 12:27 AM	#2
Biggio509 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,027	I am not sure if there is anything you can do but put in a cold pitcher or let the starter go until someone warms up for question 1. Question 2. Yes, if you look at the opponents substitution page you should see the lineup and it should show who is up next.

06-26-2010, 03:11 AM	#3
Libid21 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 540 Blog Entries: 1	This is another problem that should be addressed... they should have it so that it shows how long the delay is getting and once you see that it's lasting longer than you want it to, you should be able to go ahead and warm a pitcher up in the bullpen.

06-26-2010, 09:01 AM	#4
sid316 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seaford, VA Posts: 12	Unless I am missing something I don't see who is due up next on the opponent's substitution page. I see the batting order, but not who the next batter is.

06-26-2010, 10:40 AM	#6
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 6,531	For number one I use a workaround. If there is rain in the forecast I get my long reliever up in the pen in the first inning. As the game progresses I will get up my middle or short men so I am always ready for any rain delays that may occur. There is no fatigue penalty to the pitcher (another topic for another time) in doing so and it prevents the unrealistic "cold pitcher" situation. Another workaround would be to turn of pitcher warmups in games with rain in the forecast. It would of course be better if OOTP handled this differently but until it does I don't see what I am doing as cheating or exploiting the game, remember the AI is not going to bring in a cold pitcher in the same situation. I am simply using the best workaround I have found to remedy a short coming in OOTP.

06-26-2010, 03:43 PM	#7
sid316 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seaford, VA Posts: 12	Is it possible to change the warm-up rule in the middle of a season?

06-26-2010, 04:37 PM	#8
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 867	You're asking about warm up/no warm-up? That's an option that can be changed game by game.

06-26-2010, 05:50 PM	#9
sid316 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seaford, VA Posts: 12	Thanks thbroman. I haven't been able to figure out how to do it.

10-31-2010, 12:54 PM	#16
SamP Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 31	Not having to warm up a pitcher after a rain delay over a certain amount of time or after an injury should definitely be in the game. Not to mention you should also be able to see who is warming up for the other team (obviously that implies that the cpu would have to warm up their pitchers)

10-31-2010, 01:16 PM	#17
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,180	I recently had a game with a 41 minute rain delay during the 5th or 6th inning. After the delay my team was at bat so I warmed up a reliever because I thought the rain delay may effect my starter. My starter pitched well so the game does not seem to be take rain delays in to consideration. I think this should be added along with the AI not warming up their pitchers.

10-31-2010, 02:44 PM	#20
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	My solution has been to do away with rain delays. Since games never get rained out and the delay can sometimes happen and not be noticed until it's too late, I've just gotten rid of them.....