Spot Starters?

Libid21 · 06-22-2010, 03:48 AM

I see some teams in my single player league have spot starters at a percentage of 20 most of the time. What does that mean? I always thought spot starters were pitchers who could come in once in a while and give your usual starters a break. But I have a feeling I could be wrong. I also don't understand the 20 PCT... is that the percentage that the coach will put that player in as a long reliever or what?

EDIT: Should have probably posted this in the Newbie forum...sorry.

snepp · 06-22-2010, 06:03 AM

It's the percentage of the time that pitcher will replace the last starter in the rotation. At least that's what I've observed in the past.

For example, with a 5 man rotation, strict order and a 150 game schedule, the top four guys would start 30 games, while the #5 starter would start 24 games and the spot starter would get 6.

I don't think it's consistent though, the spot starter might get multiple starts in a row, then not get another for a couple months.

darvish11 · 06-22-2010, 06:05 AM

yeah i was wondering that too and i found it yesterday on the manual, just like what snepp mentioned.

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Spot starters are used a specific percentage of the time in place of the last pitcher in your starting rotation. Edit the PCT box to specify a percentage. For example, if your spot starter #1 is set to 20%, then the Spot Starter will replace your last starter 20% of the time.

OOTP Baseball Manual - Pitching Staff

Cryomaniac · 06-22-2010, 06:20 AM

Also, do spot starters ever throw more than about 55 pitches if you leave their position set to MR?

Libid21 · 06-22-2010, 12:52 PM

What if I want a designated long reliever?

oman19 · 06-22-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Libid21

What if I want a designated long reliever?

That is what your mop up reliever is for.

Libid21 · 06-22-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oman19

That is what your mop up reliever is for.

I see... I always thought mop up reliever was the worst reliever and would be put in when there was no hope to win... would the computer AI still use the mop up reliever a a long reliever in close games?

oman19 · 06-22-2010, 01:52 PM

From the manual.

"Mop-up relievers are used primarily when the run differential in a game is very large, one way or another, or if the starting pitcher leaves a game very early, for example due to injury."

snepp · 06-22-2010, 04:18 PM

I've always found the AI does a pretty decent job of using the pitcher placed in the mop-up role, they rarely get used in situations that matter (barring extenuating circumstances).

Libid21 · 06-22-2010, 04:37 PM

Where do I put my 'long reliever' then? Like Kris Medlen of the Braves before he moved to the rotation... when a pitcher needs to pitch before the 5th inning...

snepp · 06-22-2010, 04:47 PM

Mop-up and long reliever are one and the same.

Libid21 · 06-22-2010, 05:06 PM

Oh, I see now... thanks!

Curtis · 06-22-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Also, do spot starters ever throw more than about 55 pitches if you leave their position set to MR?

A related question, should you change a spot starter's role to MR? I have my spot starters all doubling as mopup relievers, but I've left their roles as starter. (All my spot starters are terrible, if that makes a difference.)

snepp · 06-23-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

A related question, should you change a spot starter's role to MR? I have my spot starters all doubling as mopup relievers, but I've left their roles as starter. (All my spot starters are terrible, if that makes a difference.)

You have to pick your poison.

If you leave him set as a starter, he can throw a full number of pitches when starting, as well as throw additional pitches when used in relief. The downside is the extended recovery time required.

If you set them as a reliever, they'll be able to pitch much more often, but at a considerably lower pitch count.

In the example you posted, where you have a pitcher set as both a spot-starter and mopup man, I typically leave the role set as a starter.

Curtis · 06-23-2010, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by snepp

In the example you posted, where you have a pitcher set as both a spot-starter and mopup man, I typically leave the role set as a starter.

Ah, good. Thank you.

06-22-2010, 06:03 AM	#2
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,504	It's the percentage of the time that pitcher will replace the last starter in the rotation. At least that's what I've observed in the past. For example, with a 5 man rotation, strict order and a 150 game schedule, the top four guys would start 30 games, while the #5 starter would start 24 games and the spot starter would get 6. I don't think it's consistent though, the spot starter might get multiple starts in a row, then not get another for a couple months. Last edited by snepp; 06-22-2010 at 06:06 AM.

06-22-2010, 06:20 AM	#4
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	Also, do spot starters ever throw more than about 55 pitches if you leave their position set to MR? __________________

06-22-2010, 03:48 AM	#1
Libid21 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 540	Spot Starters? I see some teams in my single player league have spot starters at a percentage of 20 most of the time. What does that mean? I always thought spot starters were pitchers who could come in once in a while and give your usual starters a break. But I have a feeling I could be wrong. I also don't understand the 20 PCT... is that the percentage that the coach will put that player in as a long reliever or what? EDIT: Should have probably posted this in the Newbie forum...sorry. Last edited by Libid21; 06-22-2010 at 03:55 AM.

06-22-2010, 12:52 PM	#5
Libid21 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 540	What if I want a designated long reliever?

06-22-2010, 01:52 PM	#8
oman19 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Area Posts: 1,343	From the manual. "Mop-up relievers are used primarily when the run differential in a game is very large, one way or another, or if the starting pitcher leaves a game very early, for example due to injury."

06-22-2010, 04:18 PM	#9
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,504	I've always found the AI does a pretty decent job of using the pitcher placed in the mop-up role, they rarely get used in situations that matter (barring extenuating circumstances).

06-22-2010, 04:37 PM	#10
Libid21 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 540	Where do I put my 'long reliever' then? Like Kris Medlen of the Braves before he moved to the rotation... when a pitcher needs to pitch before the 5th inning...

06-22-2010, 04:47 PM	#11
snepp All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,504	Mop-up and long reliever are one and the same.

06-22-2010, 05:06 PM	#12
Libid21 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 540	Oh, I see now... thanks!