The official World Cup 2010 thread... - Page 16

bababui · 06-19-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbuttons

Gah. The crowd is doing the wave at the Cameroon/Denmark match....

Its interesting that the English call it the Mexican Wave. I learn something new every day.

Jordan · 06-19-2010, 03:42 PM

I was of the opinion that some fan of the Oakland A's created "the wave". Hmmm

Anyway, Anelka got booted by Domenech. If I'm the head of the French Association (don't know their name), I would say, nevermind Nicolas you can stay, Raymond you can go. Either way it wont matter because they're not going to get through. At least he's managing his last game and about to take the meteoric fall from finals to out of the group stage

ukhotstove · 06-19-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

Utterly ridiculous. The first two matches yesterday were poorly officiated, but before that the refereeing had been great -- the only really bad call I remember from the first week of matches was Tim Cahill's red card, and even that was a matter of degree (it was obviously a foul, and probably should have been a yellow). They've done brilliantly apart from that, starting right with the goal correctly ruled offside in the Mexico/South Africa match. Much, much better than the last World Cup or the European Championships, and lightyears better than your average Premier League or Serie A weekend.

Have to agree with mylons on this, we've had a couple of discusions over the season about officials

and have to say the officials on the whole have surprised me specially the linesmen who've got a few offside decisions spot on.

ukhotstove · 06-19-2010, 04:08 PM

Couple of points, I agree with Podolski that he could have done better, to me he hit it too close to the goalkeeper (Wigan Athletic goalkeeper

). England game, have to say not one player deserved to hold his head up THEY all played as bad as each other.

See Rooney as made his apology to the England fans, if were honest he was made to apologize. Have to say gone way down in my mind.

ukhotstove · 06-19-2010, 04:08 PM

I always thought that the wave came from college sports.

Erik W. · 06-19-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Thank you, you are correct.
Does goal difference count in who is first or second out of the group?

Yes. Goal differential followed by goals for.

canadiancreed · 06-19-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

I always thought that the wave came from college sports.

Wave (audience) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- apparently it's from bull fighting?

mlyons · 06-19-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

The Africans deserve to lose a place or two in Brazil 2014. They have been horrific.

They're going to lose one, obviously, since they won't have a host nation there. I don't think I'd really like to see them lose another, though, especially if it would end up going to another European nation. It's not as if Slovakia's lighting the world on fire.

bababui · 06-19-2010, 06:32 PM

YouTube - Hitler and the vuvuzela at the 2010 Fifa World Cup.

bababui · 06-19-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

They're going to lose one, obviously, since they won't have a host nation there. I don't think I'd really like to see them lose another, though, especially if it would end up going to another European nation. It's not as if Slovakia's lighting the world on fire.

Well, any one of Russia, Czech Republic, Norway, Sweden, Ireland or Croatia would be at least as deserving as most of these horrible African teams. Thats why I suggested a second round of qualifying independent of regions to help insure the better teams make it.

Ragnar · 06-19-2010, 07:20 PM

Imagine this.....England draws and Algeria wins. Possible, right? That would put Slovania and Algeria as the top two.

I thought Germany still played well despite losing Klose and being down a man for the majority of the match.

I think if Spain can actually score they'd be dangerous. Time of possession is not getting them any points.

1P4P · 06-19-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Its interesting that the English call it the Mexican Wave. I learn something new every day.

If i remember correctly they called it like that because it was seen in one of Mexico World Cups, 1970 or 1986.

Ragnar · 06-19-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

This is the same reason why I now hate baseball. After Galarraga was robbed of his perfect game and the MLB did nothing to rectify the situation like suspending the umpire or giving the man credit for the mistake i can no longer trust in the integrity of baseball.

I think he is trying to say it may have been intentional. I am leaning towards no but I am not so sure. Can anyone find a replay of that call with the sound?

I can understand a bad call on a foul. Or even the misinterpretation of it's severity because a foul did in fact occur. What I can't understand is seeing a foul that did not exist.

mlyons · 06-19-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Well, any one of Russia, Czech Republic, Norway, Sweden, Ireland or Croatia would be at least as deserving as most of these horrible African teams. Thats why I suggested a second round of qualifying independent of regions to help insure the better teams make it.

You say that, but it's not as if the European teams that made it ahead of those teams are playing fabulously well.

Really, in terms of the African teams, the only one that has really looked bad so far is Cameroon. Nigeria looked good against Argentina and then was doing quite well against Greece before going down a man. Algeria humbled England. Ghana's in first place in their group. Even South Africa looked halfway decent in their first match (and I wouldn't be too surprised if they beat France and snuck into the knockout stages).

bababui · 06-19-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

I think he is trying to say it may have been intentional. I am leaning towards no but I am not so sure. Can anyone find a replay of that call with the sound?

I can understand a bad call on a foul. Or even the misinterpretation of it's severity because a foul did in fact occur. What I can't understand is seeing a foul that did not exist.

It wasnt intentional and he clearly didnt have an anti-US bias because of the early Dempsey incident and awarding Slo 4 yellows to just 1 for us. I absolutely believe that he got the call wrong. However, if I remember correctly, where he was standing for the FK, he was positioned between Edu and his run and the defender. He possibly could have believed that Edu fouled that defender. But he is about as incompetent an official at adjudicating FKs as Eric Gregg was at calling balls and strikes.

pilight · 06-20-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

They're going to lose one, obviously, since they won't have a host nation there. I don't think I'd really like to see them lose another, though, especially if it would end up going to another European nation. It's not as if Slovakia's lighting the world on fire.

If Africa does lose one, it should go to another South American side. All five CONMEBOL teams are leading or tied for the lead in their group.

mlyons · 06-20-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pilight

If Africa does lose one, it should go to another South American side. All five CONMEBOL teams are leading or tied for the lead in their group.

I'd assume CONMEBOL will get a sixth team in 2014, just because Brazil will be the host nation and won't be involved in qualification.

LFC1892 · 06-20-2010, 08:29 AM

Amazingly, I am not one of the Australians whining about Kewell's red card. I am however, pi$$ed about the inconsistency. If Tim Cahills tackle against Germany was a red, why wasn't the Ayew tackle(Aus vs Ghana) the same?

FIFA issued a directive about tackles from behind didnt they?

bababui · 06-20-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

I'd assume CONMEBOL will get a sixth team in 2014, just because Brazil will be the host nation and won't be involved in qualification.

The fifth this time was through playin against Costa Rica. There should be many more playin games IMO.

mlyons · 06-20-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

The fifth this time was through playin against Costa Rica. There should be many more playin games IMO.

World Cup qualification takes forever already. Adding another round of playin matches would make it even worse.

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06-19-2010, 03:42 PM	#302
Jordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 2,055	I was of the opinion that some fan of the Oakland A's created "the wave". Hmmm Anyway, Anelka got booted by Domenech. If I'm the head of the French Association (don't know their name), I would say, nevermind Nicolas you can stay, Raymond you can go. Either way it wont matter because they're not going to get through. At least he's managing his last game and about to take the meteoric fall from finals to out of the group stage

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Ragnar Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,673	Imagine this.....England draws and Algeria wins. Possible, right? That would put Slovania and Algeria as the top two. I thought Germany still played well despite losing Klose and being down a man for the majority of the match. I think if Spain can actually score they'd be dangerous. Time of possession is not getting them any points.

06-20-2010, 08:29 AM	#318
LFC1892 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Global Posts: 963	Amazingly, I am not one of the Australians whining about Kewell's red card. I am however, pi$$ed about the inconsistency. If Tim Cahills tackle against Germany was a red, why wasn't the Ayew tackle(Aus vs Ghana) the same? FIFA issued a directive about tackles from behind didnt they?