Any surprising players in your simulation

AESP_pres · 05-18-2010, 09:39 PM

I always like when you play an historical simulation and a player seems to come out of nowhere. I'll take as an exemple Herb Worth from my current 19th century simulation.

His career in real life was mostly nothing. one game played with Brooklyn were he got one double and one run score in five precence.

and after he was drafted in the 1871 round six in the simulation it looks like it will be the same, but in 74 he was trade to Baltimore (a minor one for one trade for Jim Tipper). All of sudden the next year he become a regular in Baltimore and his career was started (3 all-stars selections and more than respectable stats). At 32 years he is always one of the good player in the league.

A chance for him he was not a part of my team, since I would have given up and let him play in the minor untill he became a minor league free agent.

Any surprise like this in your league?

ejbucs · 05-18-2010, 09:51 PM

I just finished one season in my 1901 Historical replay (with Spritze's HS DB) and Chief Sockalexis won the NL MVP.

As well, the Milwaukee Brewers (who finished last in the AL in 1901 in real life) won the AL pennant, losing to the Pirates in 7 games in the WS.

Left-handed Badger · 05-19-2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ejbucs

I just finished one season in my 1901 Historical replay (with Spritze's HS DB) and Chief Sockalexis won the NL MVP.

As well, the Milwaukee Brewers (who finished last in the AL in 1901 in real life) won the AL pennant, losing to the Pirates in 7 games in the WS.

Sockalexis was a good player. I've read that he pretty much injured and drank himself out of the league.

AESP_pres · 05-19-2010, 02:32 AM

He sure had a good first season and he died young (I'm 40 years old, so for me 42 look young).

This guy life story is pretty sad

rogmax11 · 05-19-2010, 11:31 AM

Toad Ramsey and Count Campau from the 1890's for me.

Ramsey seems to always become the Koufax of that era, and I'd never even heard of him before OOTP. Same thing with Campau, who deserves the Hall of Fame for his nickname and moustache if for nothing else. Campau, who had an eerily modern-day stat line for a few years, usually has a four-five year run where he dominates the HR, SB, and 3B leader boards before fading out.

One of the great side benefits of this game is discovering these long-forgotten players and adding to ones historical appreciation of other days.

rogmax11 · 05-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Oh, and no discussion of this nature would be complete without mentioning the legendary Wayne Belardi who consistently pops up in the 1950s among the homer and RBI leaders, frequently finishing his career amid more familiar names like Snider, Mays, and Mantle.

And I dont know about others, but it seems that when Eddie Mathews appears he shows up as a ready-made colossus, often passing 60 homers several times before he hits 30 when he suddenly plummets back to earth.

scott1964 · 05-19-2010, 12:45 PM

Al Pratt for my Start of Baseball II dynasty

Through the 1879 season Al has a record of 186-170 with 681 strike outs. In 1880 thou he is out for the compete season after pitching one game with a ruptured tendon in his finger.

Al Pratt (baseball) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

David Ball · 05-19-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rogmax11

Toad Ramsey and Count Campau from the 1890's for me.

Ramsey seems to always become the Koufax of that era, and I'd never even heard of him before OOTP. Same thing with Campau, who deserves the Hall of Fame for his nickname and moustache if for nothing else. Campau, who had an eerily modern-day stat line for a few years, usually has a four-five year run where he dominates the HR, SB, and 3B leader boards before fading out.

One of the great side benefits of this game is discovering these long-forgotten players and adding to ones historical appreciation of other days.

Ramsey was a phenomenon for a little while until drinking, arm trouble and perhaps an inability to field his position did him in. When he first came up, though, he was perhaps the most sensational young pitcher of the nineteenth century. Kind of a protoMordecai Brown, in that he had suffered a hand injury while working as a bricklayer that seems to have enabled him to throw a really devastating breaking ball.

Campau was an early version of the slugger who puts up big numbers as a career minor leaguer but never makes it as a major leaguer. He was a pretty colorful player, and related to one of the first families of Detroit. And, yes, he also had one of the classic mustaches in a well-mustachioed era.

Both these guys were better known and more significant players than you would probably imagine just from looking at their records in a major league player register.

I just had Wes Covington hit 50 home runs in 1958 and rocket past his teammate Hank Aaron to the top of the major league salary list, only to suffer a season-ending injury less than halfway into the next season.

rogmax11 · 05-19-2010, 02:56 PM

This stuff is great fun, isnt it?

I have a universe that has three major leagues, each running 20 years apart in terms of rules, finances, etc., that allows free-agency, cross-league trading, and so forth; I found that a 26 year old Dick Kryhoski, traded after a "cup of coffee" rookie season, blossomed into a .371-39-146 triple crown monster in the heretofore pitching-dominant Western Association. Yowzah!!

I live for this

05-18-2010, 09:39 PM	#1
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,112	Any surprising players in your simulation I always like when you play an historical simulation and a player seems to come out of nowhere. I'll take as an exemple Herb Worth from my current 19th century simulation. His career in real life was mostly nothing. one game played with Brooklyn were he got one double and one run score in five precence. and after he was drafted in the 1871 round six in the simulation it looks like it will be the same, but in 74 he was trade to Baltimore (a minor one for one trade for Jim Tipper). All of sudden the next year he become a regular in Baltimore and his career was started (3 all-stars selections and more than respectable stats). At 32 years he is always one of the good player in the league. A chance for him he was not a part of my team, since I would have given up and let him play in the minor untill he became a minor league free agent. Any surprise like this in your league?

05-18-2010, 09:51 PM	#2
ejbucs Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 77	I just finished one season in my 1901 Historical replay (with Spritze's HS DB) and Chief Sockalexis won the NL MVP. As well, the Milwaukee Brewers (who finished last in the AL in 1901 in real life) won the AL pennant, losing to the Pirates in 7 games in the WS. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom Sr - Anaheim Angels Baseball Maelstrom Jr - Pittsburgh Pirates Last edited by ejbucs; 05-18-2010 at 09:54 PM.

05-19-2010, 12:45 PM	#7
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,622	Al Pratt for my Start of Baseball II dynasty Through the 1879 season Al has a record of 186-170 with 681 strike outs. In 1880 thou he is out for the compete season after pitching one game with a ruptured tendon in his finger. Al Pratt (baseball) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals. Last edited by scott1964; 05-19-2010 at 12:47 PM.

05-19-2010, 02:32 AM	#4
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,112	He sure had a good first season and he died young (I'm 40 years old, so for me 42 look young). This guy life story is pretty sad

05-19-2010, 11:31 AM	#5
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Toad Ramsey and Count Campau from the 1890's for me. Ramsey seems to always become the Koufax of that era, and I'd never even heard of him before OOTP. Same thing with Campau, who deserves the Hall of Fame for his nickname and moustache if for nothing else. Campau, who had an eerily modern-day stat line for a few years, usually has a four-five year run where he dominates the HR, SB, and 3B leader boards before fading out. One of the great side benefits of this game is discovering these long-forgotten players and adding to ones historical appreciation of other days.

05-19-2010, 12:34 PM	#6
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Oh, and no discussion of this nature would be complete without mentioning the legendary Wayne Belardi who consistently pops up in the 1950s among the homer and RBI leaders, frequently finishing his career amid more familiar names like Snider, Mays, and Mantle. And I dont know about others, but it seems that when Eddie Mathews appears he shows up as a ready-made colossus, often passing 60 homers several times before he hits 30 when he suddenly plummets back to earth.

05-19-2010, 02:56 PM	#9
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	This stuff is great fun, isnt it? I have a universe that has three major leagues, each running 20 years apart in terms of rules, finances, etc., that allows free-agency, cross-league trading, and so forth; I found that a 26 year old Dick Kryhoski, traded after a "cup of coffee" rookie season, blossomed into a .371-39-146 triple crown monster in the heretofore pitching-dominant Western Association. Yowzah!! I live for this