Things I havent seen in PBP mode (one pitch) - Page 2

Green & Gold Heart · 05-13-2010, 03:16 PM

Just the other day in an NLCS game I saw a guy hit a double but get called out for failing to touch first base.

CBL-Commish · 05-13-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveP

I don't believe this is in OOTP. But it (inside the park homers) is incredibly rare no matter how you slice it.

Yes, but it shouldn't be, at least not in all OOTP universes. In the deadball era something like half of all homers were inside the park. OOTP allows all kind of configurations that should result in inside-the-parkers, and triples being stretched into inside-the-parkers. But the way the game is hard-coded inside-the-parkers are just a tiny fraction of over-the-fence homers no matter what park you're playing in or what era you're simulating.

For more (self-serving!) information see this thread.

dunningrb · 05-13-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Just the other day in an NLCS game I saw a guy hit a double but get called out for failing to touch first base.

That's awesome. These are the little things that make for a very good baseball sim.

SteveP · 05-13-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CBL-Commish

Yes, but it shouldn't be, at least not in all OOTP universes. In the deadball era something like half of all homers were inside the park. OOTP allows all kind of configurations that should result in inside-the-parkers, and triples being stretched into inside-the-parkers. But the way the game is hard-coded inside-the-parkers are just a tiny fraction of over-the-fence homers no matter what park you're playing in or what era you're simulating.

I wouldn't try to disagree with that observation. I've never played earlier than the 1950s. OOTP tries to satisfy a lot of gamers having different interests, etc., and ends up not doing everything well for each of those. Consider that the game still doesn't have a financial model that works properly for the reserve clause era (or what we call pre-free agency). So, it would not surprise me that OOTP is somewhat handicapped when it comes to modeling the deadball era. There's no harm in asking Markus to do something about it, though.

Killing Time · 05-13-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveP

You are correct. That play never happens in OOTP.

I must own a mutant copy then. It's happened to me before.

SteveP · 05-13-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

I must own a mutant copy then. It's happened to me before.

Wow! That would be worth seeing.

Cryomaniac · 05-14-2010, 02:59 PM

Just thought of something I've never seen, a runner going from first to third on a WP / PB if he was attempting to steal on the pitch.

bwburke94 · 05-14-2010, 03:27 PM

I was under the assumption that GR 2Bs were not specified as such unless full PBP is on.

gentlemanofleisure · 05-14-2010, 05:11 PM

I finally saw someone steal a base on a pitchout last night. Happens rarely but it does happen.

Malleus Dei · 05-14-2010, 05:44 PM

Is everyone happy now? Yes, one pitch mode is great.

JustinM · 05-14-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

I was under the assumption that GR 2Bs were not specified as such unless full PBP is on.

Probably true. These little things are why I always always run with full PbP on.

KySteveH · 05-14-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by malleus dei

is everyone happy now? Yes, one pitch mode is great.

nm

DerekT · 05-14-2010, 09:44 PM

Gotta say something I miss from the old PBP days of OOTP (before version 7) was the "grounded to 3rd, the 3rd baseman looks at the runner on second to make certain he not running and throw to first for the out".

Oh and anyone ever see anyone actually get called out at the plate on a wildpitch? Have yet to see that in this game.

Jpotapoff · 05-14-2010, 10:01 PM

I haven't seen a fan run out on the field and get tasered..

The Real MD · 05-14-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpotapoff

I haven't seen a fan run out on the field and get tasered..

Next patch.

SteveP · 05-14-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekT

Oh and anyone ever see anyone actually get called out at the plate on a wildpitch? Have yet to see that in this game.

By definition, if it's a wild pitch or a passed ball, no one gets thrown out. What is missing in OOTP is a play in which the baserunner thinks the ball may have gotten too far away from the catcher, he tries to advance and gets thrown out. The result of that is scored as a "baserunner out advancing". That play does not exist in OOTP.

DerekT · 05-15-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveP

By definition, if it's a wild pitch or a passed ball, no one gets thrown out. What is missing in OOTP is a play in which the baserunner thinks the ball may have gotten too far away from the catcher, he tries to advance and gets thrown out. The result of that is scored as a "baserunner out advancing". That play does not exist in OOTP.

I understand that for scoring purposes, I just feel there should be a PBP for "gets away from the catcher, the runner at 3rd going to try to score, and the catcher throws it to the pitcher and OUT! What a great play by the catcher to save the run."

SteveP · 05-15-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekT

I understand that for scoring purposes, I just feel there should be a PBP for "gets away from the catcher, the runner at 3rd going to try to score, and the catcher throws it to the pitcher and OUT! What a great play by the catcher to save the run."

I think the only way that could be added (without Markus adding a "runner out advancing" play to the engine) would be as a variation on the PbP text that appears on a CS play. But, since SBAs of Home are pretty rare, that text wouldn't show up very often for that purpose. It would mostly show up on SBAs of 2B.

TigerGDK · 05-15-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gentlemanofleisure

Strike out passed ball and batter safe at first

Add this one to the tally---just had it happen for me in a game...again, full pitch-by-pitch mode, but it does happen!

JustinM · 05-15-2010, 10:04 PM

That one happens in one-pitch mode, too, as long as you have the full PbP on.

05-14-2010, 02:59 PM	#27
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	Just thought of something I've never seen, a runner going from first to third on a WP / PB if he was attempting to steal on the pitch. __________________

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DerekT Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 246	Gotta say something I miss from the old PBP days of OOTP (before version 7) was the "grounded to 3rd, the 3rd baseman looks at the runner on second to make certain he not running and throw to first for the out". Oh and anyone ever see anyone actually get called out at the plate on a wildpitch? Have yet to see that in this game. Last edited by DerekT; 05-14-2010 at 09:47 PM.

05-13-2010, 03:16 PM	#21
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Just the other day in an NLCS game I saw a guy hit a double but get called out for failing to touch first base.

05-14-2010, 03:27 PM	#28
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,522	I was under the assumption that GR 2Bs were not specified as such unless full PBP is on.

05-14-2010, 05:11 PM	#29
gentlemanofleisure Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 198	I finally saw someone steal a base on a pitchout last night. Happens rarely but it does happen.

05-14-2010, 10:01 PM	#34
Jpotapoff Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 182	I haven't seen a fan run out on the field and get tasered..

05-15-2010, 10:04 PM	#40
JustinM Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cranberry Twp, PA Posts: 445	That one happens in one-pitch mode, too, as long as you have the full PbP on.