2010 New York Yankees Official Thread - Page 8

1998 Yankees · 04-29-2010, 02:16 AM

On the other hand, there's CC and a good win tonight. So far, his turnaround from a dismal spring training performance has made up for the shortcomings of certain other pitchers, to some extent.

I had realized Johnson and Tex were in slumps, but I was unaware until I read the game recap that Jeter (2-16), Rodriguez (1-17), and Granderson (0-17) were not doing well recently, going into this game. Good game for two of those three, at least.

Gardner and Cervelli - nice surprises at the plate. Still April, but no-hit Gardner is over .300. And, time was when Posada would take a HBP and leave the game accompanied by my screams of anguish. Not so much now!

Robby, Robby, Robby. From a slim kid a few years ago to becoming a moose man today (6th HR tonight). Moose man, not MorseMoose. Studly (no offense, MM). There's, uh, no cause for concern about Cano, is there?

thomamon · 04-30-2010, 01:02 PM

In case anyone missed it:

Red-hot Cano, commanding A.J. carry Yanks | MLB.com: News

And oh yeah, he's leading the league in hitting and 2nd HR's! LOL

ROBBY CANO!

1998 Yankees · 05-01-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

In case anyone missed it:

Red-hot Cano, commanding A.J. carry Yanks | MLB.com: News

And oh yeah, he's leading the league in hitting and 2nd HR's! LOL

ROBBY CANO!

thom, I'm putting my foot down. This man has GOT to be tested! Where's that cup? Here, thom, you help him with it, OK?

thomamon · 05-01-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

thom, I'm putting my foot down. This man has GOT to be tested! Where's that cup? Here, thom, you help him with it, OK?

I'm not touching his cup! LOL

Serious, I saw him play for Staten Island and always thought he had a great swing. This is not shocking, they have always said Cano had the potential. Many people forget just a couple years ago he was in the hunt for a batting title, didn't he hit like .340 that year? I always thought if he could just have a solid April he would put up some numbers, I think this counts as a solid April

1998 Yankees · 05-01-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Serious, I saw him play for Staten Island and always thought he had a great swing. This is not shocking, they have always said Cano had the potential. Many people forget just a couple years ago he was in the hunt for a batting title, didn't he hit like .340 that year? I always thought if he could just have a solid April he would put up some numbers, I think this counts as a solid April

Yes, 2006, .342, lost to Joe Mauer, .347. Yet, he was also capable of sliding down to .271 two years later, and I don't recall any signficant injuries that he suffered that season. His head was not on right, I guess. This reminds me of that Intelligence / Work Ethic thing in OOTPB. Imagine Cano if his ratings in these categories are going up.

yankeesrule · 05-01-2010, 03:03 PM

Robby used to be a big time free swinger. In the offseason they said he really worked on this and just looking for pitches in his zone more and not swinging at everything. so far, it looks like that approach is working for him. When hes on, he's one of the best 2B in the league and best all around hitters imo

1998 Yankees · 05-01-2010, 06:34 PM

Yeah, the Yankees lost. But I enjoyed the game anyway, thanks to these cool tidbits:

The story about Omar Vizquel, not being able to use his career-long #13 with the White Sox, respectfully approaching Luis Aparicio about using his retired #11 uniform number while Vizquel is playing for the ChiSox, and Aparicio agreeing, calling it an honor! Classy, as opposed to Ozzie Guillen who had refused to give up ChiSox #13 in the first place [can't blame him for not wanting to give up the number right off his back, I guess].
Guillen playing with Javier Vazquez's head by making him change his glove - two colors OK but three colors not good, and umpires agreed. As if Guillen needed to play anymore with Vazquez's head - it's already messed up, given his performance so far this year (ERA 9.78 in five starts).
Heard the frying pan man for the first time this year... all is well with this part of the world at least...
White Sox SP John Danks trying to keep Gardner close at first, threw over there at least four times, and Kay brings up what he calls "the old saying: Nothing slows down a game like speed." Gardner is prevented from stealing, but his threat is enough to distract Danks into walking Derek Jeter anyway. Mission accomplished, and Gardner later scores.
"Even at 43, you make mistakes" [Michael Kay on Vizquel being caught off first by Posada] Darned right, Michael, and true for a hell of a lot older than that. ;-)
A-Rod directing a slow roller down 3B line to go foul, and the ball obeying him!
Andruw Jones appealing to the first base umpire for a call on a checked swing. His own checked swing!
"He's so good, he can't even watch!" Kay, getting on Jones for hotdogging it by catching fly balls while looking away at the last second as if there's nothing to it!
LOL at this: Kay and Al Leiter checking out horse racing forms on air during a lull in the game!
Another LOL: Kay on Danks' leap to snare a big hop grounder by Gardner: "He was totally in the air when he caught that. No part of his body touched the earth." Leiter: "Cirque du Soleil!"
A-Rod busting his hump going down to first to avoid an inning-ending DP and allow a run to score. As much as people dump on him for being a self-centered superstar, that impressed me and my A-Rod appreciation meter ticked upward a bit.
Yet another LOL: At the end of Nick Swisher's go-ahead home run into the Yankees' bullpen, an excited Joba Chamberlain is seen through an interior glass wall, pounding on it and yelling his head off. Kay: "Get me outta here! You guys are gonna need me now!"
Yet, another other LOL: Leiter relaying the story on how he was called into the Triple-A ballclub office to be told that he was going to New York, responding "For what?" and being subsequently told how dumb he was. Kay: "What did you think, they were sending you to a Broadway show?"

thomamon · 05-02-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Yeah, the Yankees lost. But I enjoyed the game anyway, thanks to these cool tidbits:

The story about Omar Vizquel, not being able to use his career-long #13 with the White Sox, respectfully approaching Luis Aparicio about using his retired #11 uniform number while Vizquel is playing for the ChiSox, and Aparicio agreeing, calling it an honor! Classy, as opposed to Ozzie Guillen who had refused to give up ChiSox #13 in the first place [can't blame him for not wanting to give up the number right off his back, I guess].
Guillen playing with Javier Vazquez's head by making him change his glove - two colors OK but three colors not good, and umpires agreed. As if Guillen needed to play anymore with Vazquez's head - it's already messed up, given his performance so far this year (ERA 9.78 in five starts).
Heard the frying pan man for the first time this year... all is well with this part of the world at least...
White Sox SP John Danks trying to keep Gardner close at first, threw over there at least four times, and Kay brings up what he calls "the old saying: Nothing slows down a game like speed." Gardner is prevented from stealing, but his threat is enough to distract Danks into walking Derek Jeter anyway. Mission accomplished, and Gardner later scores.
"Even at 43, you make mistakes" [Michael Kay on Vizquel being caught off first by Posada] Darned right, Michael, and true for a hell of a lot older than that. ;-)
A-Rod directing a slow roller down 3B line to go foul, and the ball obeying him!
Andruw Jones appealing to the first base umpire for a call on a checked swing. His own checked swing!
"He's so good, he can't even watch!" Kay, getting on Jones for hotdogging it by catching fly balls while looking away at the last second as if there's nothing to it!
LOL at this: Kay and Al Leiter checking out horse racing forms on air during a lull in the game!
Another LOL: Kay on Danks' leap to snare a big hop grounder by Gardner: "He was totally in the air when he caught that. No part of his body touched the earth." Leiter: "Cirque du Soleil!"
A-Rod busting his hump going down to first to avoid an inning-ending DP and allow a run to score. As much as people dump on him for being a self-centered superstar, that impressed me and my A-Rod appreciation meter ticked upward a bit.
Yet another LOL: At the end of Nick Swisher's go-ahead home run into the Yankees' bullpen, an excited Joba Chamberlain is seen through an interior glass wall, pounding on it and yelling his head off. Kay: "Get me outta here! You guys are gonna need me now!"
Yet, another other LOL: Leiter relaying the story on how he was called into the Triple-A ballclub office to be told that he was going to New York, responding "For what?" and being subsequently told how dumb he was. Kay: "What did you think, they were sending you to a Broadway show?"

This was a rather entertaining post, I enjoyed it. The games Michael Kay broadcast are much more entertaining then when its Ken Singleton and John Flaherty. Ken Singleton has an annoying tone at times when he is the lead man in the booth.

thomamon · 05-02-2010, 09:00 AM

Way to go Yanks!

Did the New York Yankees make a mistake trading Austin Jackson to the Detroit Tigers for Curtis Granderson? - ESPN New York

What do you think of this... The Yankees don't trade for Granderson so they keep Jackson. In return, they also don't trade for Vazquez, leaving Joe Blow as their 4th starter who easily pitches better then that piece of crap.

thomamon · 05-02-2010, 10:15 AM

I just wanted to quote a genius from the Off Season Yankees Thread...

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OK, I am not going to go back and quote everyone as it would require too much work, but I will respond.

Once again, the Vazquez deal is awful. Will Vazquez really be any better then the combo of Hughes/Joba/Aceves would have been in the 4/5 slot? I think not. While I agree, Melky certainly is not an all-star caliber outfielder, you do not need an all-star caliber player at every position. Melky was a very solid fielding outfielder, who had some big clutch hits this past year for the Yankees. There was no need to move him for a pitcher who has consistently been awful in the American League. How long till you think the Yankee fans are screaming at Vazquez for his awful performance, the end of April or beginning of May???

I still see no big deal in Granderson, but I am willing to give him a shot and prove me wrong. I just feel like we now have two Nick Swisher's in the lineup and .250 hitters are not what make the Yankees win.

I think the singing of Nick Johnson today means we have seen the end of Damon on the Yankees. I for one am all for seeing Gardner get a chance to start on a every day basis. He would be tremendous as a #9 hitter. He has a pretty good eye and with his speed he can easily bat at least .275 just beating out ground balls. Heck, I would not be surprised to see him bat even .290 with a very nice OBP.

OK, I am done

hayesb26 · 05-02-2010, 01:03 PM

melky cabrera: .195/.287/.221

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dont get too far ahead of ourselves

1998 Yankees · 05-02-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Way to go Yanks!

Did the New York Yankees make a mistake trading Austin Jackson to the Detroit Tigers for Curtis Granderson? - ESPN New York

What do you think of this... The Yankees don't trade for Granderson so they keep Jackson. In return, they also don't trade for Vazquez, leaving Joe Blow as their 4th starter who easily pitches better then that piece of crap.

Yeah, I remember bringing up Jackson at that time too. I remember saying it not in conjunction with any other part of the off-season moves, though. Just wistfully wishing that the Yankees could have held onto him to see what he could become. This could really get ugly if he becomes a real "Action Jackson," Granderson is only mediocre and not healthy, and Vazquez continues in meltdown.

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melky cabrera: .195/.287/.221

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dont get too far ahead of ourselves

Point, but I think thom was saying that having done nothing over the offseason, we could be looking at Jackson in left and Gardner (thank goodness they held onto him) in center, with Cabrera battling Swisher for right. Without Vazquez mucking up the rotation, we could have Chamberlain in #5 (although I don't entirely agree with that either). With Granderson on the DL, Vazquez in freefall, and Swisher in a slump, this is not looking good at all right now.

1998 Yankees · 05-02-2010, 07:04 PM

Dola, the thought comes to mind that I also said someplace in that old thread that it looked like Hughes did not have what it takes. Maybe it was the thread before that. Er, whatever; that statement looks a bit foolish right now, especially after today's game.

No matter. I'm just glad I don't have to make these decisions. My job is to criticize them with hindsight in this forum. That's a tough job all by itself! Heck, somebody's got to do it.

CommishJoe · 05-03-2010, 12:07 PM

I don't mind the Granderson deal. I just wish we could have shipped Melky to DET instead of Jackson

Granderson was doing Ok before he got hurt.

eriqjaffe · 05-03-2010, 02:56 PM

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Dola, the thought comes to mind that I also said someplace in that old thread that it looked like Hughes did not have what it takes. Maybe it was the thread before that. Er, whatever; that statement looks a bit foolish right now, especially after today's game.

Holding the White Sox to 4 hits in 7 innings isn't really much of an accomplishment, y'know.

1998 Yankees · 05-03-2010, 03:02 PM

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Holding the White Sox to 4 hits in 7 innings isn't really much of an accomplishment, y'know.

Well, still...

We can't give you Vazquez every day, you know...

NYY #23 · 05-03-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

I don't mind the Granderson deal. I just wish we could have shipped Melky to DET instead of Jackson

Granderson was doing Ok before he got hurt.

Don't we all.

Unfortunately I don't think the Tigers would have liked that very much.

I really liked Jackson, but I do think his hot start won't last. I read in an article earlier today that his BABIP is .527, so he appears to be really, really lucky so far. So I'm not too worried about Jackson having a better year than Granderson. Vazquez is just another story though...

thomamon · 05-03-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CommishJoe

I don't mind the Granderson deal. I just wish we could have shipped Melky to DET instead of Jackson

Granderson was doing Ok before he got hurt.

Joe, Granderson was doing awful before he got hurt. You need the YES network! LOL He was in a 3 for 37 slump and batting .221 on the year.

thomamon · 05-03-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hayesb26

melky cabrera: .195/.287/.221

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dont get too far ahead of ourselves

I don't care what melky is doing and I don't care if we traded him. Just not for Vazquez, I said that it was a mistake when they made the deal and I was proven correct. They are now skipping his start on Friday.

1998 Yankees · 05-03-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

Joe, Granderson was doing awful before he got hurt. You need the YES network! LOL He was in a 3 for 37 slump and batting .221 on the year.

Heh, I don't know why but this made me chuckle. "Joe, you NEED the YES network!" Not that I agree necessarily, just the way it sounded made me

[Edit: However, and I don't care what thom says, Joe, you do NEED to have Kimberly Jones of YES network give you sidelines reports.

]

04-29-2010, 02:16 AM	#141
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	On the other hand, there's CC and a good win tonight. So far, his turnaround from a dismal spring training performance has made up for the shortcomings of certain other pitchers, to some extent. I had realized Johnson and Tex were in slumps, but I was unaware until I read the game recap that Jeter (2-16), Rodriguez (1-17), and Granderson (0-17) were not doing well recently, going into this game. Good game for two of those three, at least. Gardner and Cervelli - nice surprises at the plate. Still April, but no-hit Gardner is over .300. And, time was when Posada would take a HBP and leave the game accompanied by my screams of anguish. Not so much now! Robby, Robby, Robby. From a slim kid a few years ago to becoming a moose man today (6th HR tonight). Moose man, not MorseMoose. Studly (no offense, MM). There's, uh, no cause for concern about Cano, is there? Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 04-29-2010 at 02:19 AM.

05-01-2010, 06:34 PM	#147
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Yeah, the Yankees lost. But I enjoyed the game anyway, thanks to these cool tidbits: The story about Omar Vizquel, not being able to use his career-long #13 with the White Sox, respectfully approaching Luis Aparicio about using his retired #11 uniform number while Vizquel is playing for the ChiSox, and Aparicio agreeing, calling it an honor! Classy, as opposed to Ozzie Guillen who had refused to give up ChiSox #13 in the first place [can't blame him for not wanting to give up the number right off his back, I guess]. Guillen playing with Javier Vazquez's head by making him change his glove - two colors OK but three colors not good, and umpires agreed. As if Guillen needed to play anymore with Vazquez's head - it's already messed up, given his performance so far this year (ERA 9.78 in five starts). Heard the frying pan man for the first time this year... all is well with this part of the world at least... White Sox SP John Danks trying to keep Gardner close at first, threw over there at least four times, and Kay brings up what he calls "the old saying: Nothing slows down a game like speed." Gardner is prevented from stealing, but his threat is enough to distract Danks into walking Derek Jeter anyway. Mission accomplished, and Gardner later scores. "Even at 43, you make mistakes" [Michael Kay on Vizquel being caught off first by Posada] Darned right, Michael, and true for a hell of a lot older than that. ;-) A-Rod directing a slow roller down 3B line to go foul, and the ball obeying him! Andruw Jones appealing to the first base umpire for a call on a checked swing. His own checked swing! "He's so good, he can't even watch!" Kay, getting on Jones for hotdogging it by catching fly balls while looking away at the last second as if there's nothing to it! LOL at this: Kay and Al Leiter checking out horse racing forms on air during a lull in the game! Another LOL: Kay on Danks' leap to snare a big hop grounder by Gardner: "He was totally in the air when he caught that. No part of his body touched the earth." Leiter: "Cirque du Soleil!" A-Rod busting his hump going down to first to avoid an inning-ending DP and allow a run to score. As much as people dump on him for being a self-centered superstar, that impressed me and my A-Rod appreciation meter ticked upward a bit. Yet another LOL: At the end of Nick Swisher's go-ahead home run into the Yankees' bullpen, an excited Joba Chamberlain is seen through an interior glass wall, pounding on it and yelling his head off. Kay: "Get me outta here! You guys are gonna need me now!" Yet, another other LOL: Leiter relaying the story on how he was called into the Triple-A ballclub office to be told that he was going to New York, responding "For what?" and being subsequently told how dumb he was. Kay: "What did you think, they were sending you to a Broadway show?"

05-03-2010, 12:07 PM	#154
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	I don't mind the Granderson deal. I just wish we could have shipped Melky to DET instead of Jackson Granderson was doing Ok before he got hurt. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

04-30-2010, 01:02 PM	#142
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	In case anyone missed it: Red-hot Cano, commanding A.J. carry Yanks \| MLB.com: News And oh yeah, he's leading the league in hitting and 2nd HR's! LOL ROBBY CANO!

05-01-2010, 03:03 PM	#146
yankeesrule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,367	Robby used to be a big time free swinger. In the offseason they said he really worked on this and just looking for pitches in his zone more and not swinging at everything. so far, it looks like that approach is working for him. When hes on, he's one of the best 2B in the league and best all around hitters imo

05-02-2010, 09:00 AM	#149
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	Way to go Yanks! Did the New York Yankees make a mistake trading Austin Jackson to the Detroit Tigers for Curtis Granderson? - ESPN New York What do you think of this... The Yankees don't trade for Granderson so they keep Jackson. In return, they also don't trade for Vazquez, leaving Joe Blow as their 4th starter who easily pitches better then that piece of crap.

05-02-2010, 01:03 PM	#151
hayesb26 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 267	melky cabrera: .195/.287/.221 ... dont get too far ahead of ourselves

05-02-2010, 07:04 PM	#153
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Dola, the thought comes to mind that I also said someplace in that old thread that it looked like Hughes did not have what it takes. Maybe it was the thread before that. Er, whatever; that statement looks a bit foolish right now, especially after today's game. No matter. I'm just glad I don't have to make these decisions. My job is to criticize them with hindsight in this forum. That's a tough job all by itself! Heck, somebody's got to do it.