2010 New York Yankees Official Thread

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Rounding out my troila, which of these YES announcers do you think is the better-looking? Kimberly Jones and Nancy Newman - neither of these official bio photos does them justice.

[Edit] - Hint: I love those lines around Kimberly's mouth.

I don't find either of them attractive...

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

No, no, think about it. A-Rod, the current god of baseball. Dallas Braden [who?] a struggling young pitcher [who seems to be getting better each year, though]. Superstar walks [jogs] over your place of business when a few steps in either direction could take him around it. Do you blame Braden for thinking that A-Rod's thinking that his stuff don't stink?

Not that A-Rod should be shy and retiring, walking on eggshells to apologize for his success and wealth, but do you think the guy could spare a thought? Let me say it this way. If I were back pitching in my school days and somebody had done that to me, he'd be sitting on his backside in the batters box sometime soon, that's for sure.

The follow-up article that I read today said that all of the Yankees supported A-Rod, of course, and considered it to be a joke [which is itself a bit offensive]. That's natural. However, the same article went on to say that everyone else in baseball that the writer(s) had interviewed agreed with Braden's viewpoint [although maybe not with his overreaction after the game].

This happens all the time in baseball, its not the first time I've seen it.

I spoke to quite a few ball players, including one guy who was a minor league pitcher last night and said he never heard of that being an unwritten rule. He also said that it happens all the time and couldn't understand what the big deal was.

I think A-Rod was more guilty of his little hand gesture then anything when a little nod of some sort would have been suffice.

If I am on another team and that guy is in a grove pitching well, and I have the opportunity I am going to run across the mound on purpose to try and upset him and get him out of his groove. He just showed he is a hot head and is easy to get to.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by thomamon

I think A-Rod was more guilty of his little [dismissive] hand gesture then anything when a little nod of some sort would have been suffice.

If I am on another team and that guy is in a groove pitching well, and I have the opportunity I am going to run across the mound on purpose to try and upset him and get him out of his groove.

Two good points.

BTW, I updated that tidbit that I posted about Henderson's game on the previous page, with a little research.

[1998 Yankees]

Dola, I will go with this as my final words on this matter (and please forget about what you may think of McCarver as an announcer and concentrate on the Gibson quote instead):

Former catcher and Fox analyst Tim McCarver recalled legendary intimidator Bob Gibson and his viewpoint on hitters coming near the mound, which Gibson called his "office.'' "You never come into my office unless you're invited,'' McCarver quoted Gibson as saying. "And you'll never be invited.''

If Gibson felt that way back in the 1960's, then this is not something that Braden invented out of thin air in the 2010's. I will take A-Rod and the Yankees at their word that they have never heard of such a thing, but that does not mean the notion has no validity.

Besides, think of it this way. Picture yourself pitching in a tight situation, working your butt off on or near that mound, and Mr. Superstar walks on your turf. How would you feel about that? That's the pitcher's mound whether the pitcher is on the home team or the visitor.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Dola, I will go with this as my final words on this matter (and please forget about what you may think of McCarver as an announcer and concentrate on the Gibson quote instead):

If Gibson felt that way back in the 1960's, then this is not something that Braden invented out of thin air in the 2010's. I will take A-Rod and the Yankees at their word that they have never heard of such a thing, but that does not mean the notion has no validity.

Besides, think of it this way. Picture yourself pitching in a tight situation, working your butt off on or near that mound, and Mr. Superstar walks on your turf. How would you feel about that? That's the pitcher's mound whether the pitcher is on the home team or the visitor.

It can be as simple as Braden had an instructor teach him this in little league and it stood with him forever. Where as, maybe others did not. Like I said, a guy I play poker with pitched in the minors and never heard of it. Maybe it is a throw back thing out of respect, which makes sense to me. A lot of things that use to be part of the game, are lost today.

And although guys may have never heard of it, doesn't mean it may not have been true. Again, I reiterate(I love using this word) was the disrespect A-Rod showed after. If he simply nodded or said "I apologize if it offended you, there was no intent there" he would of come across looking much better.

In real life, we all may have done something that may accidentally insult someone. But I don't think we would purposely wave it off as A-Rod did.

And just let it be noted, I did not see the way A-Rod reacted until like two days later. That was what really bothered me more then anything. I wouldn't be surprise if you see him put on his ass the next time Braden faces the Yanks.

[thomamon]

As soon as I posted that, I just blew a hole in the entire story. How come the pitchers don't mind it when the catcher, 3B, manager, umpire or other players on their own team come out and step in their "office". If your that personal about it, you don't want ANYONE on it.

[ondemonitors]

Newsday Long Island had an interesting Q&A on this. I guess I'm an old-schooler when it comes to this situation. Ask yourself, whaddya think your 'ol boy Roger would have done if someone walked on his mound?? I didn't come in here to bust on the Yankees (even though I love doing that) but I hope beyond hope that when the A's get another shot at him, they tattoo his left cheek with a baseball seam!

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by ondemonitors

Newsday Long Island had an interesting Q&A on this. I guess I'm an old-schooler when it comes to this situation. Ask yourself, whaddya think your 'ol boy Roger would have done if someone walked on his mound?? I didn't come in here to bust on the Yankees (even though I love doing that) but I hope beyond hope that when the A's get another shot at him, they tattoo his left cheek with a baseball seam!

Roger is not my old boy, lol. He was a hot head too, he may have thrown a bat at A-Rod

[thomamon]

Should I even say it... SHOULD I?

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Should I even say it... SHOULD I?

No. I was one who had faith that he'd have a good season and make us forget 2004, but even I'm losing faith now, I didn't think he'd be this bad.

At least we're only down by a run and the game is in the bullpen's hands.

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by NYY #23

No. I was one who had faith that he'd have a good season and make us forget 2004, but even I'm losing faith now, I didn't think he'd be this bad.

At least we're only down by a run and the game is in the bullpen's hands.

I'll forgive you because of your Avatar and user name

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by thomamon

I'll forgive you because of your Avatar and user name

#23 was one of the only good things for a generation of Yankee fans.

For the Yankees sake though, I hope they can figure out what it wrong with Vazquez. The only way he'll ever get out of the shadows of 2004 is if he starts pitching well, and its going to be a long year for him if he doesn't. If Vizcaino ever develops this could go down as a really bad trade.

[Goody]

ARod is bad juju. He's not going to instill or motivate heart out of any of his teammates. The Yankees have compiled a team that should have won 110+ games over the past 5 seasons easily. Now they're finally living up to what is expected based on the people they have...

They were even able to win playoff victories and championships without his help...because the rest of the team is good enough. But their regular season record has been hurting (in comparison to what they should do) because of him. I'd put money on it.

He's making 33 million a year. If I was a Yankee fan I'd rather have another guy like Posada, Swisher, or Rivera in his spot. You'd win 10 more games a year just on heart and swagger alone...because ARod is in a leadership position and he's in way over his head regardless of his talent.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by thomamon

I'll forgive you because of your Avatar and user name

Heh, just like you forgive me at times, too, for the same reasons, eh?

Originally Posted by NYY #23

#23 was one of the only good things for a generation of Yankee fans. .

Well, Dave Winfield comes to mind, especially that fabulous batting title race in 1984 between the two of them.

Originally Posted by NYY #23

For the Yankees sake though, I hope they can figure out what it wrong with Vazquez. The only way he'll ever get out of the shadows of 2004 is if he starts pitching well, and its going to be a long year for him if he doesn't.

I'm thinking, while hoping not, that it could be the perceived New York pressure thing again. Some thrive in NY (Granderson), some not (take your pick of plenty of guys). That mind job will work on you whether you're on the mound at Yankee Stadium or at Angels Stadium. I really hope not, though. Let's give him some time.

[hayesb26]

Originally Posted by Goody

ARod is bad juju. He's not going to instill or motivate heart out of any of his teammates. The Yankees have compiled a team that should have won 110+ games over the past 5 seasons easily. Now they're finally living up to what is expected based on the people they have...

They were even able to win playoff victories and championships without his help...because the rest of the team is good enough. But their regular season record has been hurting (in comparison to what they should do) because of him. I'd put money on it.

He's making 33 million a year. If I was a Yankee fan I'd rather have another guy like Posada, Swisher, or Rivera in his spot. You'd win 10 more games a year just on heart and swagger alone...because ARod is in a leadership position and he's in way over his head regardless of his talent.

fail. just fail.

[yankeesrule]

Originally Posted by Goody

ARod is bad juju. He's not going to instill or motivate heart out of any of his teammates. The Yankees have compiled a team that should have won 110+ games over the past 5 seasons easily. Now they're finally living up to what is expected based on the people they have...

They were even able to win playoff victories and championships without his help...because the rest of the team is good enough. But their regular season record has been hurting (in comparison to what they should do) because of him. I'd put money on it.

He's making 33 million a year. If I was a Yankee fan I'd rather have another guy like Posada, Swisher, or Rivera in his spot. You'd win 10 more games a year just on heart and swagger alone...because ARod is in a leadership position and he's in way over his head regardless of his talent.

Huh? A-Rod finally came through and carried the team last year in the playoffs and was a HUGE reason why they won the series.

Please, lay off the haterade, its disgusting

[darkenigma510]

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[Gastric ReFlux]

It's pretty disappointing how A-rod didn't singlehandedly win the World Series for the Yankees last year. Guy just has no clutch ability or flair for the dramatic. He should have taken it to a game 7 last year and won it with a grand slam.

[1998 Yankees]

Ugh. Robertson is starting to remind me of Farnsworth, and not because of the failures alone. It's how or why he is failing that is bugging me. Same nibbling around the plate followed by forced grooved pitches, same lack of either attention or self-confidence or both, same deer in the headlights look about him.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Ugh. Robertson is starting to remind me of Farnsworth, and not because of the failures alone. It's how or why he is failing that is bugging me. Same nibbling around the plate followed by forced grooved pitches, same lack of either attention or self-confidence or both, same deer in the headlights look about him.

I hope not. I love Robertson's potential. If he can learn to trust his stuff, he's going to be very dangerous. But, I definitely see the same thing in him.