Dynamically Evolving Leagues question - Page 3

Broth32 · 04-12-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yeah, for the game Brooklyn, NY and Manhattan are 3 different cities. Maybe you'll get a New Jersey one too

Hell - put one in Buffalo too and we could have a NY division

Markus can't praise you enough for v11 - Purchasing your game is actually going to be saving me a lot of $$ - less going out, purchasing other games, ect.

Broth32 · 04-12-2010, 02:08 PM

LOL - Markus must have love for the state of NY. In 2030 the FBL exanded two more teams. San Diego Silencers and The Bronx Clippers

Esasky10 · 04-12-2010, 02:08 PM

So do the relocated teams have larger media contracts?

It would be totally awesome if financials changed to reflect the expansion and also affect existing teams in the area, since there would now be more competition among the clubs for fans.

klkitchens · 04-12-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Broth32

Edit edit.... imagine baseball in 1011?

I'm picturing the Capital One barbarians...

akw4572 · 04-12-2010, 02:57 PM

So just to be clear, if I start a MLB Quickstart today, with the official release on Wed, I will then have the option to make the MLB league I start today a "dynamically evolving" league?

SunDevil · 04-12-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GamingVoice

I'm picturing the Capital One barbarians...

I had the exact same thought.

Khrog · 04-12-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDevil

I had the exact same thought.

After this thread, they may become a fixture in my fictional leagues!

Le Grande Orange · 04-12-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yeah, for the game Brooklyn, NY and Manhattan are 3 different cities. Maybe you'll get a New Jersey one too

Your rules are a little more relaxed than MLB's.

New York City and the surrounding areas are considered one territory by MLB, and the Major League Rules since 1962 have specifically stated no city can be host to more than two major league clubs.

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Originally Posted by Esasky10

It would be totally awesome if financials changed to reflect the expansion and also affect existing teams in the area, since there would now be more competition among the clubs for fans.

OOTP's financial system at present isn't really sophisticated enough to do that sort of thing. But a personal endeavour of mine is to see the financial model be overhauled and improved so that it's more dynamic, fluid, and realistic in the way it operates so it would be able to do the kind of thing you mention.

I've done quite a bit of research on that front and have dug up a decent amount of financial data to use as reference.

As a general aside, it's commonly thought that to handle two clubs in the same city you cut the population total of the city in half. But studies have shown that's not really accurate. The presence of a second club in a city results in more total attendance than a single club would generate, as that second club enhances overall interest in the sport.

Cowboys3356 · 04-12-2010, 03:34 PM

If I start a 2010 MLB Historical League using Lahman database will the historical face gen pictures work and will the league automatically evolve? I know if the use the QuickStart MLB2010 league it will not dynamically evolve but I was thinking if I started from scratch historical then it would. Also I was thinking the facegens might of been made off the twill/gambo dbase so wasnt sure if the historical faces worked with lahman.

Hotwheelz · 04-12-2010, 03:44 PM

Where exactly is the setting at? I am having a tough time locating it. This is a league I exported from OOTP 10 so I am not even sure its an option.

Bluenoser · 04-12-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotwheelz

Where exactly is the setting at? I am having a tough time locating it. This is a league I exported from OOTP 10 so I am not even sure its an option.

Game setup, League setup, Options. Top left.

Broth32 · 04-12-2010, 03:52 PM

In 2055 the league expanded two more teams: Dallas Black Diamonds and Chicago Caribous. So since 2010 the team has expanded by 6 teams and four teams have either changed names or located.

I was also looking and some league news and Philly's owner died and now the team is run by his son.

Pretty neat...

PadresFan · 04-12-2010, 03:54 PM

Thanks for posting these updates Broth! Must admit that this feature sounds very cool...

Bluenoser · 04-12-2010, 03:59 PM

During Beta Testing I had some cool changes with this feature. DH was turned on, 40 man roster size changed and DFA Period length changed.

norva13x · 04-12-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Broth32

In 2055 the league expanded two more teams: Dallas Black Diamonds and Chicago Caribous. So since 2010 the team has expanded by 6 teams and four teams have either changed names or located.

I was also looking and some league news and Philly's owner died and now the team is run by his son.

Pretty neat...

Cool, the rate of expansion seems perfect!
I was worried before about it expanding to fast, but that seems a good pace.

Sdpm100 · 04-12-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Broth32

Yes - that is what exactly happening. So I now how four teams in the state of NY - but not the city of NY.

If you don't want the borough teams then you can always edit cities.txt, and delete the five of them.

Originally they did not appear in the game, I think it was in the SI version, but someone moaned that their historical team didn't have their city set automatically because there was no Brooklyn, NY in the cities.txt, so it got added, but for some reason so did the other four.

Cowboys3356 · 04-12-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Broth32

In 2055 the league expanded two more teams: Dallas Black Diamonds and Chicago Caribous. So since 2010 the team has expanded by 6 teams and four teams have either changed names or located.

I was also looking and some league news and Philly's owner died and now the team is run by his son.

Pretty neat...

What year did you start with? Did you start with historical rosters or fictional?

Broth32 · 04-12-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

What year did you start with? Did you start with historical rosters or fictional?

2010 fictional... I'm running this sim on my work computer. I'm going to continue to run this for another hundred years - I'm about to leave work so I'll post some more impressions of this league in the morning.

Hotwheelz · 04-12-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Game setup, League setup, Options. Top left.

Its not there so I am guessing I will have to wait until the next release to see this option. I hope.

Broth32 · 04-12-2010, 04:27 PM

In 2060 expansion team (came into the league in 2055) Dallas Black Diamonds moved to Queens (Halberds nickname).

04-12-2010, 02:08 PM	#42
Broth32 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: C-Town Posts: 385	LOL - Markus must have love for the state of NY. In 2030 the FBL exanded two more teams. San Diego Silencers and The Bronx Clippers

04-12-2010, 02:08 PM	#43
Esasky10 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5	So do the relocated teams have larger media contracts? It would be totally awesome if financials changed to reflect the expansion and also affect existing teams in the area, since there would now be more competition among the clubs for fans.

04-12-2010, 02:57 PM	#45
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	So just to be clear, if I start a MLB Quickstart today, with the official release on Wed, I will then have the option to make the MLB league I start today a "dynamically evolving" league?

04-12-2010, 03:34 PM	#49
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,572	If I start a 2010 MLB Historical League using Lahman database will the historical face gen pictures work and will the league automatically evolve? I know if the use the QuickStart MLB2010 league it will not dynamically evolve but I was thinking if I started from scratch historical then it would. Also I was thinking the facegens might of been made off the twill/gambo dbase so wasnt sure if the historical faces worked with lahman.

04-12-2010, 03:44 PM	#50
Hotwheelz All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,620	Where exactly is the setting at? I am having a tough time locating it. This is a league I exported from OOTP 10 so I am not even sure its an option.

04-12-2010, 03:52 PM	#52
Broth32 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: C-Town Posts: 385	In 2055 the league expanded two more teams: Dallas Black Diamonds and Chicago Caribous. So since 2010 the team has expanded by 6 teams and four teams have either changed names or located. I was also looking and some league news and Philly's owner died and now the team is run by his son. Pretty neat...

04-12-2010, 03:54 PM	#53
PadresFan All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 1,151	Thanks for posting these updates Broth! Must admit that this feature sounds very cool...

04-12-2010, 03:59 PM	#54
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,224	During Beta Testing I had some cool changes with this feature. DH was turned on, 40 man roster size changed and DFA Period length changed.

04-12-2010, 04:27 PM	#60
Broth32 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: C-Town Posts: 385	In 2060 expansion team (came into the league in 2055) Dallas Black Diamonds moved to Queens (Halberds nickname).