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KySteveH · 05-06-2003, 09:20 AM

I'm still a bit unclear as to what these changes are, from the 4/29 readme:

More improved park-adjusted batting ratings
*Added better park-adjusted pitching ratings
*Several overall ratings adjustments

I went ahead and started a season based on the 4/24 set, thinking that there would be only minor changes going forward. Now I'm not sure whether to start over or not, because I'm not sure if the "park-adjusted" and "overall" rating adjustments are league-wide, or what. Could you shed any light on this?

Also, do you think there will be more widespread RATINGS changes coming, or will it mostly be financials, such as TV deals, etc.?

Oh, one more note: I have noticed that some teams start with a different amount of cash than I would expect. The max cash is 5M, right? Well, looking at last years financial report, you would expect that the cash this year would match the bottom line from last year, or be 5M, but it doesn't in some cases. Some teams had a profit of say, 2.2M last year, but their cash is maybe 1.7M. Is that just an oversight? I noticed specifically my Reds were off by .3M or something like that.

GForce22 · 05-06-2003, 04:19 PM

Hey Steve,

There were no players added between 4/24 and 4/29. If you want the updated ratings changes, you could get the 4.29 update and export the csv files, then copy them into your current season and import. It should change the ratings.
The changes are NOT imperative. Basically, I hadn't factored for the ballpark a guy played in enough. This didn't affect minor league guys, who I had factored their park better for, since it's a component of MLE, which is part of my formula. But for major league guys, I minimized the impact of their home park. So those were the changes I made. I also altered a few ratings, nothing huge, but some guys toned down a bit (Mo Vaughn I made even worse than I had him, John Rocker, some others). You'll see the age effect changes I made mentioned in the readme. That's it, pretty much. So your league absolutely could go ahead as is. I just wanted to tweak the ratings a bit and feel they are more accurate now. Not drastically so, but enough so that I feel better about them.
The final update will be a finances update to try and get things a bit better. Not sure when I'll get to it, but I will. And hopefully a csv update for guys and their current seasons.
Any more questions, let me know.

GH

bunkscene · 05-06-2003, 06:05 PM

Hey, just wanted to let you know the Fenway Park capacity is at 34,892 from additions in the past year or 2.

Reference: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/030130/6/rl1s.html

KySteveH · 05-06-2003, 07:14 PM

Thanks for the answers! It sounds like all the changes made were within either the ratings or the general info that gets exported/imported in the CSV files.

But now I have other ?'s. First of all, there seem to be 3 Colin Curtis's in the .csv file, but only 1 in the game. I just wanted you to know, in case you didn't already.

I noticed many players with 1.0 as their Fielding % This seems odd. I noticed most were pitchers, so I guess no biggie, but a couple were SS. Is that right? Also EMartinez has a fld pct of .307, which might be intentional, but looks weird.

Kelly Shoppach only weighs 21 pounds. Maybe he should hit the training table a bit harder. Obviously no big deal, just cosmetic.

Scott Hairston is "off the charts" on doubles. He's a 19! Micah Kaaihua is a 16, and Fernando Pacheco has a really odd looking split for doubles.

John Nelson seems to be too high in triples. Frank Catalano and Kory DeHaan may be too, or maybe I'm wrong.

Check out Josh Kroeger's walks.

Again, all these numbers might be correct, I just thought I'd mention them as possible things to check.

OmahaBaseball · 05-06-2003, 08:22 PM

GForce - I just d/l your last update and cut and pasted them over a season that I had not started yet. It seems like everything is good except my ammy draft is now at the start of the season rather than the middle. I know the guys are there because I found Gwynn, Loewan, etc... in the "show all players" under advanced setup. My question is if I play the season, will these guys be availible to me at the start of next season for the draft or will the game create new guys and I will miss out on all of your hard work? Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

OmahaBaseball · 05-06-2003, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by KySteveH
Thanks for the answers! It sounds like all the changes made were within either the ratings or the general info that gets exported/imported in the CSV files.

But now I have other ?'s. First of all, there seem to be 3 Colin Curtis's in the .csv file, but only 1 in the game. I just wanted you to know, in case you didn't already.

I noticed many players with 1.0 as their Fielding % This seems odd. I noticed most were pitchers, so I guess no biggie, but a couple were SS. Is that right? Also EMartinez has a fld pct of .307, which might be intentional, but looks weird.

Kelly Shoppach only weighs 21 pounds. Maybe he should hit the training table a bit harder. Obviously no big deal, just cosmetic.

Scott Hairston is "off the charts" on doubles. He's a 19! Micah Kaaihua is a 16, and Fernando Pacheco has a really odd looking split for doubles.

John Nelson seems to be too high in triples. Frank Catalano and Kory DeHaan may be too, or maybe I'm wrong.

Check out Josh Kroeger's walks.

Again, all these numbers might be correct, I just thought I'd mention them as possible things to check.

I just went through this and while I must admit that I am not up to date on a lot of these guys, I do know that Catalano is a excellant hitter and does put up some nice triples numbers. I got a nice lauch at Shoppach's weight. I did not see the E Martinex low fielding percentage - own my game he seemed just fine. Thanks for catching some of those different numbers.

Still would like to know what to do about the Ammy Draft question that I asked in the post above. Thanks.

GForce22 · 05-07-2003, 04:42 PM

For the ammy draft, here's how you find out. Go to the regular free agents screen (not the edit free agents screen in league setup). If the prospects are there, it means they are not draft guys. If they are not there, but they are in the edit free agents screen, it means they will be done for the draft.

GH

OmahaBaseball · 05-07-2003, 06:56 PM

Thanks for the reply and congrats. on getting 10,000 hits. My question is based on what will happen with the default setting to your 4/29/03 roster being "start of season" for the ammy draft. I know in a previous d/l it was set at June for default. My question is what happens come Spring 2004 for the draft, will I be able to use the rookies that you created or will the computer generate new players and wipe out your work? I believe that the "rookies" are not in the "free agents" screen but are found when a do a search of the entire database. I have not checked under "Edit Free Agents" Any advice would be great.

GForce22 · 05-07-2003, 07:03 PM

If they are not found in the regular free agents screen, they are probably set for inclusion in the 2004 draft. Your best bet is to back up your league and run a sim through 2004 and see what happens. Changing the draft date now I think will add more rookies for the draft and dilute the pool.

GH

OmahaBaseball · 05-07-2003, 08:42 PM

Once again, thanks for the reply. That was my thought on what to do. I am curious why your latest update seems to revert it back to the spring draft. Is it something I am doing wrong? I"ll give it a try and see what happens. Have a good night.

GForce22 · 05-07-2003, 09:16 PM

it shouldn't have reverted back. I have no answer for you to be honest.

GH

OmahaBaseball · 05-07-2003, 10:54 PM

Have you had any one else mention this to you or is there a way you can do a quick check? I still seem to be having this problem. Thanks.

OmahaBaseball · 05-08-2003, 10:59 AM

Ok - I just tested and it does seem to have reverted back to the spring ammy draft. In my test lg. that I created I found that in the spring the game did add more rookies to the draft pool, so when the draft came up, I had not only the rookies that you had created but also the AI generated rookies. The downfall to this is an awful lot of guys and dilute the pool. Thinking that I may have had a bad file, I re d/l, set up another seperate test lg. and got the same results. G-Force there has got to be something that can be done to fix this, it just seems like a waste of your time and effort if the draft pool is not as good as you had made it to be. Thanks again.

Stew · 05-08-2003, 03:14 PM

For what it's worth, when I installed the newest version of the Opening Day rosters I also found that the ammy draft had reverted to preseaon. I reinstalled to a clean .lg directory and had the same result. This did not happen with the earlier version of the Opening Day rosters.

Cheers,

Stew

OmahaBaseball · 05-08-2003, 06:44 PM

Stew - Thanks for the info, I figured I was not the only one experiancing this. I hope G Force takes notice of this and makes the corrections for the ammy draft.

TPort · 05-09-2003, 01:08 PM

I started a new league with the 4/24 roster set. The league was started with an initial player draft. Two things happened....first, the prospects were included in the initial draft, and second, when I got to the June amateur draft, there were no players in the draft pool.

I went into the League screen, and changed the draft date from June to pre-season, then moved it back again. The game then generated rookies, which I presume are fictional players.

TP

GForce22 · 05-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Starting a new league would wipe out draft settings I had anyway. You need to continue the league as zipped.

GH

TPort · 05-09-2003, 10:16 PM

Yea, I figured that out. I like to start from scratch with a draft. I absolutely love the roster set. It is great. Thanks for all of your hard work.

TP

OmahaBaseball · 05-10-2003, 12:42 PM

This is the response that I got from GForce concerning the question of ammy draft problems:

*** try this. Back up the league. Go to league setup. Set draft rounds to 0. Then change the date. The guys created seem to be somewhat proportionate to the number of guys who would get drafted. If you set the draft rounds to 0 there it doesn't matter, because when it actually comes to be draft time you can pick a different number of rounds for the draft.

GH ***

I just wanted to let you know that this worked just fine and allowed me to have a nice, clean draft. Thanks for your help.

CHOWDERHEAD SLC

GForce22 · 05-10-2003, 11:03 PM

glad it worked for you. Sorry for the confusion.

GH

05-06-2003, 06:05 PM	#123
bunkscene Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 50	Fenway Park capacity Hey, just wanted to let you know the Fenway Park capacity is at 34,892 from additions in the past year or 2. Reference: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/030130/6/rl1s.html

05-06-2003, 08:22 PM	#125
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	GForce - I just d/l your last update and cut and pasted them over a season that I had not started yet. It seems like everything is good except my ammy draft is now at the start of the season rather than the middle. I know the guys are there because I found Gwynn, Loewan, etc... in the "show all players" under advanced setup. My question is if I play the season, will these guys be availible to me at the start of next season for the draft or will the game create new guys and I will miss out on all of your hard work? Please let me know what you think. Thanks. __________________ Life is Good! Last edited by OmahaBaseball; 05-08-2003 at 11:01 AM.

05-07-2003, 06:56 PM	#128
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	Thanks for the reply and congrats. on getting 10,000 hits. My question is based on what will happen with the default setting to your 4/29/03 roster being "start of season" for the ammy draft. I know in a previous d/l it was set at June for default. My question is what happens come Spring 2004 for the draft, will I be able to use the rookies that you created or will the computer generate new players and wipe out your work? I believe that the "rookies" are not in the "free agents" screen but are found when a do a search of the entire database. I have not checked under "Edit Free Agents" Any advice would be great. __________________ Life is Good!

05-07-2003, 08:42 PM	#130
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	Once again, thanks for the reply. That was my thought on what to do. I am curious why your latest update seems to revert it back to the spring draft. Is it something I am doing wrong? I"ll give it a try and see what happens. Have a good night. __________________ Life is Good!

05-07-2003, 10:54 PM	#132
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	Have you had any one else mention this to you or is there a way you can do a quick check? I still seem to be having this problem. Thanks. __________________ Life is Good!

05-06-2003, 09:20 AM	#121
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	I'm still a bit unclear as to what these changes are, from the 4/29 readme: More improved park-adjusted batting ratings Added better park-adjusted pitching ratings Several overall ratings adjustments I went ahead and started a season based on the 4/24 set, thinking that there would be only minor changes going forward. Now I'm not sure whether to start over or not, because I'm not sure if the "park-adjusted" and "overall" rating adjustments are league-wide, or what. Could you shed any light on this? Also, do you think there will be more widespread RATINGS changes coming, or will it mostly be financials, such as TV deals, etc.? Oh, one more note: I have noticed that some teams start with a different amount of cash than I would expect. The max cash is 5M, right? Well, looking at last years financial report, you would expect that the cash this year would match the bottom line from last year, or be 5M, but it doesn't in some cases. Some teams had a profit of say, 2.2M last year, but their cash is maybe 1.7M. Is that just an oversight? I noticed specifically my Reds were off by .3M or something like that.

05-06-2003, 04:19 PM	#122
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Hey Steve, There were no players added between 4/24 and 4/29. If you want the updated ratings changes, you could get the 4.29 update and export the csv files, then copy them into your current season and import. It should change the ratings. The changes are NOT imperative. Basically, I hadn't factored for the ballpark a guy played in enough. This didn't affect minor league guys, who I had factored their park better for, since it's a component of MLE, which is part of my formula. But for major league guys, I minimized the impact of their home park. So those were the changes I made. I also altered a few ratings, nothing huge, but some guys toned down a bit (Mo Vaughn I made even worse than I had him, John Rocker, some others). You'll see the age effect changes I made mentioned in the readme. That's it, pretty much. So your league absolutely could go ahead as is. I just wanted to tweak the ratings a bit and feel they are more accurate now. Not drastically so, but enough so that I feel better about them. The final update will be a finances update to try and get things a bit better. Not sure when I'll get to it, but I will. And hopefully a csv update for guys and their current seasons. Any more questions, let me know. GH

05-06-2003, 07:14 PM	#124
KySteveH Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 266	Thanks for the answers! It sounds like all the changes made were within either the ratings or the general info that gets exported/imported in the CSV files. But now I have other ?'s. First of all, there seem to be 3 Colin Curtis's in the .csv file, but only 1 in the game. I just wanted you to know, in case you didn't already. I noticed many players with 1.0 as their Fielding % This seems odd. I noticed most were pitchers, so I guess no biggie, but a couple were SS. Is that right? Also EMartinez has a fld pct of .307, which might be intentional, but looks weird. Kelly Shoppach only weighs 21 pounds. Maybe he should hit the training table a bit harder. Obviously no big deal, just cosmetic. Scott Hairston is "off the charts" on doubles. He's a 19! Micah Kaaihua is a 16, and Fernando Pacheco has a really odd looking split for doubles. John Nelson seems to be too high in triples. Frank Catalano and Kory DeHaan may be too, or maybe I'm wrong. Check out Josh Kroeger's walks. Again, all these numbers might be correct, I just thought I'd mention them as possible things to check.

05-07-2003, 04:42 PM	#127
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	For the ammy draft, here's how you find out. Go to the regular free agents screen (not the edit free agents screen in league setup). If the prospects are there, it means they are not draft guys. If they are not there, but they are in the edit free agents screen, it means they will be done for the draft. GH

05-07-2003, 07:03 PM	#129
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	If they are not found in the regular free agents screen, they are probably set for inclusion in the 2004 draft. Your best bet is to back up your league and run a sim through 2004 and see what happens. Changing the draft date now I think will add more rookies for the draft and dilute the pool. GH

05-07-2003, 09:16 PM	#131
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	it shouldn't have reverted back. I have no answer for you to be honest. GH

05-08-2003, 10:59 AM	#133
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	Need Help ! Ok - I just tested and it does seem to have reverted back to the spring ammy draft. In my test lg. that I created I found that in the spring the game did add more rookies to the draft pool, so when the draft came up, I had not only the rookies that you had created but also the AI generated rookies. The downfall to this is an awful lot of guys and dilute the pool. Thinking that I may have had a bad file, I re d/l, set up another seperate test lg. and got the same results. G-Force there has got to be something that can be done to fix this, it just seems like a waste of your time and effort if the draft pool is not as good as you had made it to be. Thanks again. __________________ Life is Good!

05-08-2003, 03:14 PM	#134
Stew Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 4	Same problem. . . . For what it's worth, when I installed the newest version of the Opening Day rosters I also found that the ammy draft had reverted to preseaon. I reinstalled to a clean .lg directory and had the same result. This did not happen with the earlier version of the Opening Day rosters. Cheers, Stew

05-08-2003, 06:44 PM	#135
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	Stew - Thanks for the info, I figured I was not the only one experiancing this. I hope G Force takes notice of this and makes the corrections for the ammy draft. __________________ Life is Good!

05-09-2003, 01:08 PM	#136
TPort Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 109	I started a new league with the 4/24 roster set. The league was started with an initial player draft. Two things happened....first, the prospects were included in the initial draft, and second, when I got to the June amateur draft, there were no players in the draft pool. I went into the League screen, and changed the draft date from June to pre-season, then moved it back again. The game then generated rookies, which I presume are fictional players. TP

05-09-2003, 03:19 PM	#137
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Starting a new league would wipe out draft settings I had anyway. You need to continue the league as zipped. GH

05-09-2003, 10:16 PM	#138
TPort Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 109	Yea, I figured that out. I like to start from scratch with a draft. I absolutely love the roster set. It is great. Thanks for all of your hard work. TP

05-10-2003, 12:42 PM	#139
OmahaBaseball Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Home of the College World Series! Posts: 3,911	This is the response that I got from GForce concerning the question of ammy draft problems: * try this. Back up the league. Go to league setup. Set draft rounds to 0. Then change the date. The guys created seem to be somewhat proportionate to the number of guys who would get drafted. If you set the draft rounds to 0 there it doesn't matter, because when it actually comes to be draft time you can pick a different number of rounds for the draft. GH * I just wanted to let you know that this worked just fine and allowed me to have a nice, clean draft. Thanks for your help. CHOWDERHEAD SLC __________________ Life is Good!

05-10-2003, 11:03 PM	#140
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	glad it worked for you. Sorry for the confusion. GH