Closers becoming Starters

Marinersfan51 · 03-10-2010, 09:19 PM

Is there any way to stop closers from becoming starters? It seems like all of the closers and setup pitchers in my game (K-Rod, Street, Papelbon, Hinshaw, Aardsma, Rivera) are becoming SP. I find this very annoying, do I just have to change their ratings.

oppie · 03-11-2010, 01:32 AM

I've noticed this also. A pitcher who has been a career closer becomes a starter with a stamina of 27 or 23 (not sure exactly as I don't have the game in front of me).

I was looking over my mets pitching staff last night (second season 2010 from quickstart) and noticed that Francisco Rodriguez's suggested role is starter.

Anyone have any ideas as to the stamina cut off point for starters. That sounds a bit fuzzy. What I mean is at what level of stamina does the computer change a solid closers role from closer to stater?

robc · 03-11-2010, 09:14 AM

Did they develop a third pitch recently?

AirmenSmith · 03-11-2010, 09:16 AM

The games endurance system was changed but not in to really help out with this problem. I have seen that almost any pitcher with 3 good pitches will start games regardless of there endurance. Endurance in the game only says how long a pitcher will pitch effectivly. So really anyone with 3 good pitches will start. The only way around this is to force there positions. At least for your team you can tell pitchers where they will play. I haven't tried that on a computer controlled team but it's they only workaround I have found.

oppie · 03-12-2010, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robc

Did they develop a third pitch recently?

K-rod has four solid pitches initially.

robc · 03-12-2010, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppie

K-rod has four solid pitches initially.

I know having 3 pitches is a main qualification in the game to be a starter. I have never seen a minimum stamina posted. Do they pitch a reasonable number of pitches when they start?

Flying Dutchmen · 03-12-2010, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robc

I know having 3 pitches is a main qualification in the game to be a starter. I have never seen a minimum stamina posted. Do they pitch a reasonable number of pitches when they start?

I thought Markus has said that if a pitcher has a stamina of 60 (on the 1-250 hidden scale) that they could start reasonably effectively. I'm not sure of the number of pitches you could get out of someone at that level though - probably only 90 or so, but I could be wrong.

AirmenSmith · 03-12-2010, 03:34 PM

I know I have seen closers starting games constantly after about 10 years into my league. I'll have closers starting about 50 games, winning 17-20 games and there innings pitch was under 200.

I like how the new endurance worked with saying you need three pitches but now the system needs to be changed so closers don't start games. I have had closers winning the cy young almost non stop after about 10 years. I wish there would just be an option to choose the min setting of endurance for starting pitchers.

ptwarr18 · 03-12-2010, 03:56 PM

In a fictional game this doesn't bother me at all, but in real roster games I could see how this would be annoying.

03-10-2010, 09:19 PM	#1
Marinersfan51 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 777	Closers becoming Starters Is there any way to stop closers from becoming starters? It seems like all of the closers and setup pitchers in my game (K-Rod, Street, Papelbon, Hinshaw, Aardsma, Rivera) are becoming SP. I find this very annoying, do I just have to change their ratings.

03-11-2010, 09:16 AM	#4
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	The games endurance system was changed but not in to really help out with this problem. I have seen that almost any pitcher with 3 good pitches will start games regardless of there endurance. Endurance in the game only says how long a pitcher will pitch effectivly. So really anyone with 3 good pitches will start. The only way around this is to force there positions. At least for your team you can tell pitchers where they will play. I haven't tried that on a computer controlled team but it's they only workaround I have found. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

03-12-2010, 03:34 PM	#8
AirmenSmith Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 2,094	I know I have seen closers starting games constantly after about 10 years into my league. I'll have closers starting about 50 games, winning 17-20 games and there innings pitch was under 200. I like how the new endurance worked with saying you need three pitches but now the system needs to be changed so closers don't start games. I have had closers winning the cy young almost non stop after about 10 years. I wish there would just be an option to choose the min setting of endurance for starting pitchers. __________________ Come join me on my Twitch Channel for gaming at its excellence Twitch Link

03-12-2010, 03:56 PM	#9
ptwarr18 Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 308	In a fictional game this doesn't bother me at all, but in real roster games I could see how this would be annoying. __________________ Former OOTP veteran looking to get back into it

03-11-2010, 01:32 AM	#2
oppie Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 29	I've noticed this also. A pitcher who has been a career closer becomes a starter with a stamina of 27 or 23 (not sure exactly as I don't have the game in front of me). I was looking over my mets pitching staff last night (second season 2010 from quickstart) and noticed that Francisco Rodriguez's suggested role is starter. Anyone have any ideas as to the stamina cut off point for starters. That sounds a bit fuzzy. What I mean is at what level of stamina does the computer change a solid closers role from closer to stater?

03-11-2010, 09:14 AM	#3
robc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,095	Did they develop a third pitch recently?