Outrageous Demands.

pucku33 · 11-30-2009, 06:22 PM

I am in an online league in which we just hit free agency. however it seems that most of the free agents (even the terrible ones) are asking for 20 mil as a starting point... the commish assured us that this was normal, but i have not seen this in any other leagues or even offline leagues.. is it normal??

For example:

Adam Kennedy hit .245 with 8 rbi in the regular season. he has a max loyalty(5/5) and wants 20 mil per season.

Jerry Hairston Jr. hit .236 with 56 rbi. he has above avg loyalty, greed, intelligence and desire for winning. wants 22 mil.

Adam Everett .264 40 rbi. 4/5 for loyalty and greed. wants 24 mil.

i simmed the regular season on single player mode, and Hairston was asking for 1.2 mil at the start of FA in which he had a much better season.

Can this be attributed to the "typical quality salary" limits in rules? or are these extremely high demands normal when on default settings?

Thanks alot!

Bluenoser · 11-30-2009, 06:44 PM

Check how much money is available league wide. OOTP works on a supply and demand system. The more money available league wide, the more FA's will ask for.

pucku33 · 11-30-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Check how much money is available league wide. OOTP works on a supply and demand system. The more money available league wide, the more FA's will ask for.

yanks -60 mil
sox -8 mil
rays +20 mil
orioles +5mil
jays -9 mil
cental only has 1 team over 10 mil, 2 in the red.
west has 3/4 teams in the red.

supply and demand must be backwards then.. mediocre players shouldnt ask for 20 mil when a majority of teams are in the red...needless to say, there isn't much money by owners, so why would backups be asking for the same price that an ace pitcher is asking for??? it has nothing to do with the price that is set for the "quality" of players?

damientheomen3 · 12-01-2009, 12:07 AM

I'd say the commissioner did something crazy to the financial settings...

Athletics17 · 12-01-2009, 12:47 AM

Id fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily mo Pena 27 mil a year.

damientheomen3 · 12-01-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics17

Id fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily mo Pena 27 mil a year.

id fire him instantly if he gave willy mo $7 million

TribeFanInNC · 12-01-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletics17

Id fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily mo Pena 27 mil a year.

I'd fire him if he Wily Mo $27.

pucku33 · 12-01-2009, 05:51 PM

so is this a case of supply and demand and theres no solution for it? or is it because financial settings need to be adjusted. or the price of certain "quality" players in the rules section was raised? ...or?

There are multiple leagues within (international like mexico/nippon..etc) perhaps prices are inflated because their financials count towards the supply and demand of mlb? i cant think of why this is happening or how to fix it.. any suggestions would be great appreciated. thanks in advance!

Raidergoo · 12-01-2009, 10:34 PM

You can operate in the red and still have too much cash. If you have a operating loss of 60 million dollars but have 300 million in cash, you still have a huge amount of cash.

pucku33 · 12-02-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

You can operate in the red and still have too much cash. If you have a operating loss of 60 million dollars but have 300 million in cash, you still have a huge amount of cash.

I understand, when i said that they are in the red, i meant that they have negative cash though. not their operating loss, their total cash is in the red. meaning they have no cash.

Athletics17 · 12-02-2009, 11:32 AM

Is this anew league or has it been running for a few years?

pucku33 · 12-02-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletics17

Is this anew league or has it been running for a few years?

new league, first offseason. they are using real current rosters, in 09-10 offseason as u can see from the screenshot. I am just totally puzzled about this though. and its driving me crazy not to know the why of it ya know?

Thanks for everyone involved in helping so far. hopefully we can get this squared away

jmknpk2 · 12-02-2009, 09:45 PM

I can see where this situation presents a problem to you. I'm not denying that. But on the other hand, in an online league it should not be a show-stopper. If the players are demanding too much, intelligent human managers should just wait them out. They'll eventually sign to a reasonable deal if nobody offers them the money they're looking for. I can see how it could still throw things out of whack if no free agents sign till the season starts though.

pucku33 · 12-03-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmknpk2

I can see where this situation presents a problem to you. I'm not denying that. But on the other hand, in an online league it should not be a show-stopper. If the players are demanding too much, intelligent human managers should just wait them out. They'll eventually sign to a reasonable deal if nobody offers them the money they're looking for. I can see how it could still throw things out of whack if no free agents sign till the season starts though.

okay, was just looking to see why this league's demands are so extremely far-fetched while other leagues are somewhat normal. (most leagues jerry hairston asks for under 1 mil...) It looks like we'll be going into the season with quite a few big names on the FA market since no teams can afford them, kinda sucks but since there's not really a definite answer, I'll just deal with it. Thanks for everyone that attempted to help, I appreciate your time.

bwburke94 · 12-11-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletics17

Id fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily mo Pena 27 mil a year.

I'd fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily Mo 1 cent a year.

mikev · 12-12-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmknpk2

I can see where this situation presents a problem to you. I'm not denying that. But on the other hand, in an online league it should not be a show-stopper. If the players are demanding too much, intelligent human managers should just wait them out. They'll eventually sign to a reasonable deal if nobody offers them the money they're looking for. I can see how it could still throw things out of whack if no free agents sign till the season starts though.

Except this is untrue. There was a huge issue when players would retire instead of taking contracts well below their demands.

11-30-2009, 06:22 PM	#1
pucku33 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 323	Outrageous Demands. I am in an online league in which we just hit free agency. however it seems that most of the free agents (even the terrible ones) are asking for 20 mil as a starting point... the commish assured us that this was normal, but i have not seen this in any other leagues or even offline leagues.. is it normal?? For example: Adam Kennedy hit .245 with 8 rbi in the regular season. he has a max loyalty(5/5) and wants 20 mil per season. Jerry Hairston Jr. hit .236 with 56 rbi. he has above avg loyalty, greed, intelligence and desire for winning. wants 22 mil. Adam Everett .264 40 rbi. 4/5 for loyalty and greed. wants 24 mil. i simmed the regular season on single player mode, and Hairston was asking for 1.2 mil at the start of FA in which he had a much better season. Can this be attributed to the "typical quality salary" limits in rules? or are these extremely high demands normal when on default settings? Thanks alot!

12-01-2009, 12:47 AM	#5
Athletics17 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: jackson Hole, Wy Posts: 1,187	Id fire my gm instantly if he gave Wily mo Pena 27 mil a year. __________________ Compilation of Uniforms

12-02-2009, 11:32 AM	#11
Athletics17 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: jackson Hole, Wy Posts: 1,187	Is this anew league or has it been running for a few years? __________________ Compilation of Uniforms

11-30-2009, 06:44 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,477	Check how much money is available league wide. OOTP works on a supply and demand system. The more money available league wide, the more FA's will ask for.

12-01-2009, 05:51 PM	#8
pucku33 Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 323	so is this a case of supply and demand and theres no solution for it? or is it because financial settings need to be adjusted. or the price of certain "quality" players in the rules section was raised? ...or? There are multiple leagues within (international like mexico/nippon..etc) perhaps prices are inflated because their financials count towards the supply and demand of mlb? i cant think of why this is happening or how to fix it.. any suggestions would be great appreciated. thanks in advance!

12-01-2009, 10:34 PM	#9
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	You can operate in the red and still have too much cash. If you have a operating loss of 60 million dollars but have 300 million in cash, you still have a huge amount of cash.

12-02-2009, 09:45 PM	#13
jmknpk2 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 982	I can see where this situation presents a problem to you. I'm not denying that. But on the other hand, in an online league it should not be a show-stopper. If the players are demanding too much, intelligent human managers should just wait them out. They'll eventually sign to a reasonable deal if nobody offers them the money they're looking for. I can see how it could still throw things out of whack if no free agents sign till the season starts though.