World Series 2009 Phillies vs Yankees - Page 11

phightin · 11-02-2009, 09:37 PM

if they're still up 5 runs I wonder if they pull Lee after 6 innings. Probably not but who knows.

yankeesrule · 11-02-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phightin

if they're still up 5 runs I wonder if they pull Lee after 6 innings

I was thinking that also to maybe save him for game 7. Not sure they trust Hamels so it comes down to Blanton on short rest or Lee on shorter rest.

yankeesrule · 11-02-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Goody

So what does capitalizing the letters ASS mean? You're calling me an ass? If so, don't hide behind clever text manipulation.

Your comment of them throwing this game to come back to NY really just seems out there and I'd love to hear your rationalization for it. As I said, if they were "throwing" this game they would have started gaudin and saved AJ as I was hoping rather than go all-in and start AJ on short rest.

As the old saying goes, when you make an assumption you make an ass out of you and me.

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 10:21 PM

Yankees offense is about to explode, i can feel it....(fingers crossed)

phightin · 11-02-2009, 10:39 PM

Why anyone still pitches to ultey down and in is beyond me. You go low and away even if it means potentially missing the plate or leaving over the middle a bit. Either way as I said before on here barring injury Utley is a lock for the hall in about another 4 seasons.

The question is, and here's the interesting thing, do you think it's possible that even if the yankees win the series Utley is the MVP of it? Does any guru on here know if that's ever been done before?

Goody · 11-02-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLegend85

Yankees offense is about to explode, i can feel it....(fingers crossed)

So can I. 208 million makes that like a 75% probability against a less well paid bullpen.

marc · 11-02-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phightin

I'm not gonna reiterate what I already said except that yes Blanton did his job last night. He kept his team in the game and gave them a chance to win through 6, and Lidge was the right decision at the time. Manuel is a good manager end of story. I think you're being an overly emotional philly fan and just not taking a step back. It hurts believe me, I've been through it all in my lifetime with Joe Carter the wasted 90s, the underachieving teams through 2000 etc. Maybe because they won last year I can take a step back and think clearly I dunno.

Anyway if they're going to have any chance of winning this series I think they not only have to win tonight but make a statement by putting up a ton of runs.

Not being overly emotional at all, I've felt this way about Manuel for nearly 5 years. I'm not the classic philly fan that goes nuts over every little thing, I think he makes terrible decisions over and over again.

Blanton's ERA was 6 the other night, that's a bad outing, there is absolutely no way around it.

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 10:47 PM

yuck, lol. Looks like i was wrong, and the Phillies offense will be the one exploding all night long. That sucks

Definitely a good game for the Phillies and their fans though, have to give credit where it is due. Maybe we will be able to get to the bullpen though (fingers crossed again). Goody, seriously dude you always sound like you are whining when you bring up the payroll, it gets old. Just saying lol. Anyways though, just my opinion, no offense meant, just commenting on it...lol anyways, GO YANKEES!!!!......

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 10:49 PM

P.S. and everything you are saying Phightin is exactly right, Utley is a beast. I didn't realize how good he was until this series, now i completely hate him (in a good, prejudiced fan kind of way hahaha)

phightin · 11-02-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by marc

Not being overly emotional at all, I've felt this way about Manuel for nearly 5 years. I'm not the classic philly fan that goes nuts over every little thing, I think he makes terrible decisions over and over again.

Blanton's ERA was 6 the other night, that's a bad outing, there is absolutely no way around it.

Boxscore: NY Yankees vs. Philadelphia - November 1, 2009 | MLB.com: News

Here's the box score. While the 6 era looks bad on the stat sheet when you look at the total numbers his performance basically matched CC's. He allowed 5 hits 4 earned 2 walks and struck out 7 through 6. While it isn't great like a said before the way the game played out it was serviceable overall and he matched his opposing pitcher.

marc · 11-02-2009, 11:00 PM

You don't hope for "serviceable" in a must win World Series game. Once again my point is being made for me. This isn't the middle of June against the Nationals. You're playing for all the marbles and serviceable doesn't cut it on most nights in these types of situations.

Blanton was probably the least likely starter in their rotation to throw a gem type of performance, they needed to put a pitcher on the mound capable of such an outing and they had one available to them and chose not to use him.

I hope like hell they can finish this one off. I think a Game 6 might be harder to win than a Game 7. Game 7 will have all the pressure on the Yankees, the fans will be nervous, and Sabathia hasn't exactly been dominant. The Hamels dynamic if there was to be a Game 7 would be very interesting as well.

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 11:00 PM

heads up play by Arod! kind of a mini run by the Yankees, maybe we can make it happen!

marc · 11-02-2009, 11:01 PM

Tried to post this a few minutes ago but put it in the wrong thread.

Sorry, but I have to say it...

Why wasn't Francisco in left field there? That's basically a harmless fly ball if he's out there like he should be with a 6-run lead in the 8th inning.

I'm not going to continue to post every little thing that Manuel screws up (there are so many obvious examples it's not even funny) so I will make that my last post regarding Charlie for this series but that is Baseball 101 right there. It's as obvious a move as you can make.

jazzrack · 11-02-2009, 11:18 PM

i can't believe the phillies are about to blow this game

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 11:18 PM

2 hits, tying run coming up.......AND IT'S JETER!!!!! lol (fingers crossed)

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

EMSoccerCoach · 11-02-2009, 11:22 PM

Captain clutch!!!! LOL!!!

jazzrack · 11-02-2009, 11:25 PM

well, no matter what happens it was a good game !

MrLegend85 · 11-02-2009, 11:29 PM

dang

jinxed that one a bit I think....Good game though, Phillies have to be happy with how they played, and personally as a Yankees fan I am really happy that the Yankees fought back, definitely keeps you from losing any confidence in the team. If a game 5 loss in the WS can feel like a moral victory, i think this one kind of does.....

PhillieFever · 11-02-2009, 11:48 PM

Not So Fast....HaHa,wow what a game.Neither one of these teams ever quit and it really makes for some great baseball.Here's to hoping for a game 7!

PhillieFever · 11-03-2009, 12:07 AM

Cliff Lee is just awesome,what a warrior.He was just asked if he'd be able to pitch if there was a game 7 and without hesitation he said he'd be ready to go no doubt about it.Such a difference between him and #35 who refuses to pitch on anything less than full rest.

11-02-2009, 09:37 PM	#201
phightin All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 586	if they're still up 5 runs I wonder if they pull Lee after 6 innings. Probably not but who knows. Last edited by phightin; 11-02-2009 at 09:38 PM.

11-02-2009, 11:00 PM	#211
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	You don't hope for "serviceable" in a must win World Series game. Once again my point is being made for me. This isn't the middle of June against the Nationals. You're playing for all the marbles and serviceable doesn't cut it on most nights in these types of situations. Blanton was probably the least likely starter in their rotation to throw a gem type of performance, they needed to put a pitcher on the mound capable of such an outing and they had one available to them and chose not to use him. I hope like hell they can finish this one off. I think a Game 6 might be harder to win than a Game 7. Game 7 will have all the pressure on the Yankees, the fans will be nervous, and Sabathia hasn't exactly been dominant. The Hamels dynamic if there was to be a Game 7 would be very interesting as well. __________________

11-02-2009, 11:01 PM	#213
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	Tried to post this a few minutes ago but put it in the wrong thread. Sorry, but I have to say it... Why wasn't Francisco in left field there? That's basically a harmless fly ball if he's out there like he should be with a 6-run lead in the 8th inning. I'm not going to continue to post every little thing that Manuel screws up (there are so many obvious examples it's not even funny) so I will make that my last post regarding Charlie for this series but that is Baseball 101 right there. It's as obvious a move as you can make. __________________

11-02-2009, 11:18 PM	#214
jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 3,229	i can't believe the phillies are about to blow this game __________________ . "Never confuse composure for ease" Was once Head Cheese of Corporate League Baseball

11-02-2009, 11:22 PM	#216
EMSoccerCoach Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,464	Captain clutch!!!! LOL!!! __________________ The Pastime Baseball League The Pastime Baseball League - 10-Year Recap The Pastime Boxing Association

11-02-2009, 10:21 PM	#204
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	Yankees offense is about to explode, i can feel it....(fingers crossed)

11-02-2009, 10:39 PM	#205
phightin All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 586	Why anyone still pitches to ultey down and in is beyond me. You go low and away even if it means potentially missing the plate or leaving over the middle a bit. Either way as I said before on here barring injury Utley is a lock for the hall in about another 4 seasons. The question is, and here's the interesting thing, do you think it's possible that even if the yankees win the series Utley is the MVP of it? Does any guru on here know if that's ever been done before?

11-02-2009, 10:47 PM	#208
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	yuck, lol. Looks like i was wrong, and the Phillies offense will be the one exploding all night long. That sucks Definitely a good game for the Phillies and their fans though, have to give credit where it is due. Maybe we will be able to get to the bullpen though (fingers crossed again). Goody, seriously dude you always sound like you are whining when you bring up the payroll, it gets old. Just saying lol. Anyways though, just my opinion, no offense meant, just commenting on it...lol anyways, GO YANKEES!!!!......

11-02-2009, 10:49 PM	#209
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	P.S. and everything you are saying Phightin is exactly right, Utley is a beast. I didn't realize how good he was until this series, now i completely hate him (in a good, prejudiced fan kind of way hahaha)

11-02-2009, 11:00 PM	#212
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	heads up play by Arod! kind of a mini run by the Yankees, maybe we can make it happen!

11-02-2009, 11:18 PM	#215
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	2 hits, tying run coming up.......AND IT'S JETER!!!!! lol (fingers crossed) GO YANKEES!!!!!!!

11-02-2009, 11:25 PM	#217
jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 3,229	well, no matter what happens it was a good game ! __________________ . "Never confuse composure for ease" Was once Head Cheese of Corporate League Baseball

11-02-2009, 11:29 PM	#218
MrLegend85 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	dang jinxed that one a bit I think....Good game though, Phillies have to be happy with how they played, and personally as a Yankees fan I am really happy that the Yankees fought back, definitely keeps you from losing any confidence in the team. If a game 5 loss in the WS can feel like a moral victory, i think this one kind of does.....

11-02-2009, 11:48 PM	#219
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	Not So Fast....HaHa,wow what a game.Neither one of these teams ever quit and it really makes for some great baseball.Here's to hoping for a game 7! __________________ We're All Wednesday Aren't We? WAWAW

11-03-2009, 12:07 AM	#220
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	Cliff Lee is just awesome,what a warrior.He was just asked if he'd be able to pitch if there was a game 7 and without hesitation he said he'd be ready to go no doubt about it.Such a difference between him and #35 who refuses to pitch on anything less than full rest. __________________ We're All Wednesday Aren't We? WAWAW