what is the longest you've ever let a pitcher go in 1 game?

damientheomen3 · 06-17-2009, 08:55 PM

I just let my SP go 10 innings in a 12 inning victory for me. I think i once let a guy go 11 innings though. so, what is the longest you ever let an SP go?

jbergey22 · 06-17-2009, 09:00 PM

In historic mode from the early 1900's I believe 12 innings is the longest. Playing current seasons I believe I also let a pitcher go 10. Ive never let a pitcher go over 130 pitches in a present era sim. I usually set 110 as a max but will try to squeeze a couple more outs out of a pitcher if its a tight game or I want that pitcher to get a shutout.

Eugene Church · 06-17-2009, 09:42 PM

In OOTP9 and OOTP6.51 a few times I could squeeze out 12 innings out of a pitcher before he said his arm was falling off. I have gone 160 pitches. I don't set pitch limits. I play 1950s-style baseball.

I have not played out any games in my league in OOTP10 yet. I have only done test leagues to proof the News and PBP.

I wait until the last patch before I convert my league over. That's when I know the game will be as good as it will get.

SteveP · 06-17-2009, 09:49 PM

When I play 1950s/1960s, I give the SP pitcher stamina LTM a boost of about 15%. This get BF stats pretty comparable to what they were at that time (pitch count data is pretty thin at that time). Also I get very realistic CG stats. At that rate, I do get pitchers going into the 11th inning on occasion (which is realistic). I don't think I've ever seen a pitcher going past that.

Dolphinfan · 06-17-2009, 10:06 PM

In my current season, I let Tim Wakefield through 150 pitches in a 10 inning complete game. Of course he is a knuckleball and has a very high stamina.

Jared · 06-17-2009, 10:26 PM

I remember in an OOTP6 league Greg Maddux pitched 12 shutout innings for his 300th career win...what a game that was.

ndc3 · 06-17-2009, 11:40 PM

I generally try to keep all my starters under 120 pitches, I don't care about IPs. The longest I've let a pitcher go is 130 pitches.

I have played in a game when the computer left his starter in for a whopping 211 pitches. I had worn his bullpen out the previous game in a blowout, and he refused to replace his starter.

Mortimer · 06-18-2009, 01:05 AM

in a modern game I let one go 134 pitches in a 9 inning game, generally I do not keep them in there for extras, if we are tied I do not want to risk the 115th pitch be the one that loses the game.

In ootp 9 I played a 1910 league about half a season all play by play managing, but it got so boreing they always went 130 pitches and there was no need for the bull pin, really they were just spot starters

mm7607 · 06-18-2009, 02:47 AM

I absolutely HATE the pitch count. Pitchers are the most babied bunch of pussies in sports. Could you imagine the NFL with a pass count? Pitchers need long outings to build up arm strength. Nolan Ryan once threw 259 pitches against KC in 1974 and he went on for 19 more years. Pitchers used to have pride in throwing a complete game shutout, not its "give me my 5 and out."

norva13x · 06-18-2009, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

I absolutely HATE the pitch count. Pitchers are the most babied bunch of pussies in sports. Could you imagine the NFL with a pass count? Pitchers need long outings to build up arm strength. Nolan Ryan once threw 259 pitches against KC in 1974 and he went on for 19 more years. Pitchers used to have pride in throwing a complete game shutout, not its "give me my 5 and out."

Are your really so sure it is the pitchers?
I think the teams are doing it, the managers and GMs. More so than the pitchers.

mm7607 · 06-18-2009, 03:31 AM

I agree its management doing this crap but the pitchers don't seem to care either. I know if I just finished the 8th with a shutout going you would have to beat me with a bat to keep me from pitching the 9th. There seems to be some opposition building against the pitch count so maybe its days are numbered.

Cryomaniac · 06-18-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

I know if I just finished the 8th with a shutout going you would have to beat me with a bat to keep me from pitching the 9th.

+1 I never take a pitcher out if he has a shutout going.

The longest I've had was a starter pitching 12 shutout innings in a game that my team won in 17. He threw about 160 pitches and had a game score of 105.

Kelric · 06-18-2009, 09:51 AM

I don't take a pitcher out if he has a shutout after 7 innings unless he gets Tired. Or it is still a close game and he starts putting runners on. Or if the guy at the plate is a lefty verse my RHP and mashes righties while I have a good LOOGY in the pen. It all depends, but I prefer to see guys throwing shutouts.

Since I sometimes play 18th century ball where a pitcher might be throwing more than 200 pitches, I'll limit my response to more modern day games. I think that means 10.something innings every once in a while. A few days back one of my SPs (Kyle Davies or Greinke, can't remember) pitched a nine inning shutout in less than 90 pitches. If we had gone to the tenth I'd have sent them back out there without hesitating. Luckily, I think we scored 5 or 6 runs in that game early on.

PhillieFever · 06-18-2009, 10:24 AM

In a deadball era game,I played a game in which Chief Bender and Cy young battled for 14 scoreless innings,before Boston got to Bender in the bottom of the 15th to win 1-0.

ndc3 · 06-18-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

I absolutely HATE the pitch count. Pitchers are the most babied bunch of pussies in sports. Could you imagine the NFL with a pass count? Pitchers need long outings to build up arm strength. Nolan Ryan once threw 259 pitches against KC in 1974 and he went on for 19 more years. Pitchers used to have pride in throwing a complete game shutout, not its "give me my 5 and out."

Two words. Sandy. Koufax. Lack of pitch count ended this guy's career WAY too early.

Studies have shown that pitchers who go over 120 pitches regularly significantly increase their likelihood for late season injury and/or ineffectiveness.

But you can go ahead and run that risk, if you'd like. Your game, your way!

Wrathchild · 06-18-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mm7607

I agree its management doing this crap but the pitchers don't seem to care either. I know if I just finished the 8th with a shutout going you would have to beat me with a bat to keep me from pitching the 9th. There seems to be some opposition building against the pitch count so maybe its days are numbered.

Can you imagine being a set-up guy? I think that's even worse. You're expected to pitch one inning and then call it a day. I'd have to be getting paid a helluva lot of money to be happy with that.

Bob Zupcic · 06-18-2009, 12:39 PM

I once let Jorge de la Rosa go ten shutout innings in a 22-inning game...in relief. He got a no-decision.

falkonisback · 06-18-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

I don't take a pitcher out if he has a shutout after 7 innings unless he gets Tired. Or it is still a close game and he starts putting runners on. Or if the guy at the plate is a lefty verse my RHP and mashes righties while I have a good LOOGY in the pen. It all depends, but I prefer to see guys throwing shutouts.

Since I sometimes play 18th century ball where a pitcher might be throwing more than 200 pitches, I'll limit my response to more modern day games. I think that means 10.something innings every once in a while. A few days back one of my SPs (Kyle Davies or Greinke, can't remember) pitched a nine inning shutout in less than 90 pitches. If we had gone to the tenth I'd have sent them back out there without hesitating. Luckily, I think we scored 5 or 6 runs in that game early on.

Wow, 18th century baseball? I didn't know they played baseball in the 1700's...HAHA

Cryomaniac · 06-18-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Zupcic

I once let Jorge de la Rosa go ten shutout innings in a 22-inning game...in relief. He got a no-decision.

Reminds me of this story

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Originally Posted by falkonisback

Wow, 18th century baseball? I didn't know they played baseball in the 1700's...HAHA

lol. Maybe they played baseball in medieval England, but it was supressed so there are no records! We'd never know lol.

Kelric · 06-18-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by falkonisback

Wow, 18th century baseball? I didn't know they played baseball in the 1700's...HAHA

Town ball. Goes back to the early 1800s in records at least, most likely far earlier.

But yes, I did mean 19th century.

06-17-2009, 09:42 PM	#3
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,341	In OOTP9 and OOTP6.51 a few times I could squeeze out 12 innings out of a pitcher before he said his arm was falling off. I have gone 160 pitches. I don't set pitch limits. I play 1950s-style baseball. I have not played out any games in my league in OOTP10 yet. I have only done test leagues to proof the News and PBP. I wait until the last patch before I convert my league over. That's when I know the game will be as good as it will get. Last edited by Eugene Church; 06-17-2009 at 09:45 PM.

06-18-2009, 10:24 AM	#14
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	In a deadball era game,I played a game in which Chief Bender and Cy young battled for 14 scoreless innings,before Boston got to Bender in the bottom of the 15th to win 1-0. __________________ We're All Wednesday Aren't We? WAWAW

06-17-2009, 09:00 PM	#2
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	In historic mode from the early 1900's I believe 12 innings is the longest. Playing current seasons I believe I also let a pitcher go 10. Ive never let a pitcher go over 130 pitches in a present era sim. I usually set 110 as a max but will try to squeeze a couple more outs out of a pitcher if its a tight game or I want that pitcher to get a shutout.

06-17-2009, 09:49 PM	#4
SteveP Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,109	When I play 1950s/1960s, I give the SP pitcher stamina LTM a boost of about 15%. This get BF stats pretty comparable to what they were at that time (pitch count data is pretty thin at that time). Also I get very realistic CG stats. At that rate, I do get pitchers going into the 11th inning on occasion (which is realistic). I don't think I've ever seen a pitcher going past that.

06-17-2009, 10:06 PM	#5
Dolphinfan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 110	In my current season, I let Tim Wakefield through 150 pitches in a 10 inning complete game. Of course he is a knuckleball and has a very high stamina.

06-17-2009, 10:26 PM	#6
Jared Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 93	I remember in an OOTP6 league Greg Maddux pitched 12 shutout innings for his 300th career win...what a game that was.

06-17-2009, 11:40 PM	#7
ndc3 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 21	I generally try to keep all my starters under 120 pitches, I don't care about IPs. The longest I've let a pitcher go is 130 pitches. I have played in a game when the computer left his starter in for a whopping 211 pitches. I had worn his bullpen out the previous game in a blowout, and he refused to replace his starter.

06-18-2009, 01:05 AM	#8
Mortimer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 198	in a modern game I let one go 134 pitches in a 9 inning game, generally I do not keep them in there for extras, if we are tied I do not want to risk the 115th pitch be the one that loses the game. In ootp 9 I played a 1910 league about half a season all play by play managing, but it got so boreing they always went 130 pitches and there was no need for the bull pin, really they were just spot starters

06-18-2009, 02:47 AM	#9
mm7607 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Originally from Fla, now in Ky Posts: 709	I absolutely HATE the pitch count. Pitchers are the most babied bunch of pussies in sports. Could you imagine the NFL with a pass count? Pitchers need long outings to build up arm strength. Nolan Ryan once threw 259 pitches against KC in 1974 and he went on for 19 more years. Pitchers used to have pride in throwing a complete game shutout, not its "give me my 5 and out."

06-18-2009, 03:31 AM	#11
mm7607 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Originally from Fla, now in Ky Posts: 709	I agree its management doing this crap but the pitchers don't seem to care either. I know if I just finished the 8th with a shutout going you would have to beat me with a bat to keep me from pitching the 9th. There seems to be some opposition building against the pitch count so maybe its days are numbered.

06-18-2009, 09:51 AM	#13
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I don't take a pitcher out if he has a shutout after 7 innings unless he gets Tired. Or it is still a close game and he starts putting runners on. Or if the guy at the plate is a lefty verse my RHP and mashes righties while I have a good LOOGY in the pen. It all depends, but I prefer to see guys throwing shutouts. Since I sometimes play 18th century ball where a pitcher might be throwing more than 200 pitches, I'll limit my response to more modern day games. I think that means 10.something innings every once in a while. A few days back one of my SPs (Kyle Davies or Greinke, can't remember) pitched a nine inning shutout in less than 90 pitches. If we had gone to the tenth I'd have sent them back out there without hesitating. Luckily, I think we scored 5 or 6 runs in that game early on.

06-18-2009, 12:39 PM	#17
Bob Zupcic Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 99	I once let Jorge de la Rosa go ten shutout innings in a 22-inning game...in relief. He got a no-decision.