BZ 3096: AI Changes Pitcher Roles when setting up Rotation

daxl101 · 06-03-2009, 01:13 PM

Not sure if this is a bug or by design.

Playing a quick start ML with the Toronto Blue Jays:

with the GCL Blue Jays I changed 5 of the MR positions to SP, but when I asked the Bench coach/Manager to set the rotation it turns all the players back to MR and won't place them in the rotation.

So then I turned a player in AAA into a SP and asked again, they changed the position back again.

The part that makes me feel like it's not by design is that it does not do it at the ML level.

I was hoping to convert some MRs and have them play as SPs, I guess I will just have to manually place them in the rotation.

fredandres · 06-03-2009, 01:33 PM

Do you have the preferences set to control the minor leagues? The AI may put the middle relievers back into the bullpen, but it shouldn't change the designated position of each player (as viewed in the players view dialog).

daxl101 · 06-03-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredandres

Do you have the preferences set to control the minor leagues? The AI may put the middle relievers back into the bullpen, but it shouldn't change the designated position of each player (as viewed in the players view dialog).

I'm setup to control, but normally you can still ask the manager without issue.

And yes it's changing their designated position back to MR and putting them in the bullpen again.

I just moved them to the rotation manually until I find out if this is a bug or by design.

fredandres · 06-03-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxl101

I'm setup to control, but normally you can still ask the manager without issue.

And yes it's changing their designated position back to MR and putting them in the bullpen again.

I just moved them to the rotation manually until I find out if this is a bug or by design.

I tested this and I'm getting the same issue. It's not clear if this is a bug or a feature, but it seems illogical based on previous versions of the game. Good find.

battists · 06-03-2009, 02:15 PM

I logged this in our tracking system as BZ 3096. Like fredandres, I'm not quite sure whether Markus intended the AI to do this, or whether it's a bug. We'll ask him, and let you know what he says!

Obviously, the workaround for now is to manually set your pitching rotation if you're concerned about the role changes.

Thanks!

daxl101 · 06-03-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

I logged this in our tracking system as BZ 3096. Like fredandres, I'm not quite sure whether Markus intended the AI to do this, or whether it's a bug. We'll ask him, and let you know what he says!

Obviously, the workaround for now is to manually set your pitching rotation if you're concerned about the role changes.

Thanks!

Thanks for the quick replies guys,

It isn't a big deal as I titled it, a minor issue. Just found it odd is all. I've set them manually for now.

markprior22 · 06-03-2009, 04:26 PM

If I understand the issue correctly, it was handled under BZ2346. If the minor league mgrs are running your minor league teams, they would put pitchers in whatever roles they see fit no matter whether they are listed as a starter or reliever. It got annoying to look at a minor league team and see 8 SP's listed with only 5 of them in the rotation and the rest in the bullpen. If a guy is currently being used as a reliever, the game now shows him as a reliever. If he gets moved to a starting role, he will be shown as a starter. If you are handling the minors yourself, you should be able to change the roles as you see fit. Again, if you ask the computer to set up the minor league team, it will change the displayed role depending on how the pitcher is being used. Hope this makes sense.

battists · 06-03-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markprior22

If I understand the issue correctly, it was handled under BZ2346. If the minor league mgrs are running your minor league teams, they would put pitchers in whatever roles they see fit no matter whether they are listed as a starter or reliever. It got annoying to look at a minor league team and see 8 SP's listed with only 5 of them in the rotation and the rest in the bullpen. If a guy is currently being used as a reliever, the game now shows him as a reliever. If he gets moved to a starting role, he will be shown as a starter. If you are handling the minors yourself, you should be able to change the roles as you see fit. Again, if you ask the computer to set up the minor league team, it will change the displayed role depending on how the pitcher is being used. Hope this makes sense.

Thanks for the feedback, mark, this makes sense. We'll wait to hear from the OP, though, before closing this out!

Nutlaw · 06-12-2009, 08:52 PM

Markus states that this is working as intended.

battists · 06-14-2009, 11:00 PM

Because this issue is reported as working as intended, I will close this issue...

Thanks!

06-03-2009, 01:13 PM	#1
daxl101 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 25	BZ 3096: AI Changes Pitcher Roles when setting up Rotation Not sure if this is a bug or by design. Playing a quick start ML with the Toronto Blue Jays: with the GCL Blue Jays I changed 5 of the MR positions to SP, but when I asked the Bench coach/Manager to set the rotation it turns all the players back to MR and won't place them in the rotation. So then I turned a player in AAA into a SP and asked again, they changed the position back again. The part that makes me feel like it's not by design is that it does not do it at the ML level. I was hoping to convert some MRs and have them play as SPs, I guess I will just have to manually place them in the rotation.

06-03-2009, 01:33 PM	#2
fredandres Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 111	Do you have the preferences set to control the minor leagues? The AI may put the middle relievers back into the bullpen, but it shouldn't change the designated position of each player (as viewed in the players view dialog).

06-03-2009, 02:15 PM	#5
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I logged this in our tracking system as BZ 3096. Like fredandres, I'm not quite sure whether Markus intended the AI to do this, or whether it's a bug. We'll ask him, and let you know what he says! Obviously, the workaround for now is to manually set your pitching rotation if you're concerned about the role changes. Thanks!

06-03-2009, 04:26 PM	#7
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,247	If I understand the issue correctly, it was handled under BZ2346. If the minor league mgrs are running your minor league teams, they would put pitchers in whatever roles they see fit no matter whether they are listed as a starter or reliever. It got annoying to look at a minor league team and see 8 SP's listed with only 5 of them in the rotation and the rest in the bullpen. If a guy is currently being used as a reliever, the game now shows him as a reliever. If he gets moved to a starting role, he will be shown as a starter. If you are handling the minors yourself, you should be able to change the roles as you see fit. Again, if you ask the computer to set up the minor league team, it will change the displayed role depending on how the pitcher is being used. Hope this makes sense.

06-12-2009, 08:52 PM	#9
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Markus states that this is working as intended.

06-14-2009, 11:00 PM	#10
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Because this issue is reported as working as intended, I will close this issue... Thanks!