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Old 06-08-2009, 01:36 PM   #21
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The frequency of dropped fly balls will be decreased in the next patch.
I assume you are referring to the frequency with which this PBP text shows up, not the actual rate at which fly balls are caught.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:46 PM   #22
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I have only played about 40 games with OOTP X, importing an league from 8 (9) I have seen balls pop out alot on this play, however I dont ttink there is an error on the play is there?

This is why I ask, (and I play with 'instant' pbp, so the game goes by fast!) If there ARE errors when this happens, well in the limited play I have seen with OOTPX, I havent seen errors go up compared to other versions of the game. I think this is just a dialog string reiterating too often.

HOWEVER, if there is no error when this play happens, well it DOES happen alot, but likely in older versions of the game would be simply a hit.

I think this string was added to try to make things more exciting...
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:07 PM   #23
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I have only played about 40 games with OOTP X, importing an league from 8 (9) I have seen balls pop out alot on this play, however I dont ttink there is an error on the play is there?

This is why I ask, (and I play with 'instant' pbp, so the game goes by fast!) If there ARE errors when this happens, well in the limited play I have seen with OOTPX, I havent seen errors go up compared to other versions of the game. I think this is just a dialog string reiterating too often.

HOWEVER, if there is no error when this play happens, well it DOES happen alot, but likely in older versions of the game would be simply a hit.

I think this string was added to try to make things more exciting...
There is no error on the play since it's extraordinary effort.

In earlier versions it would just be a hit. They're in fielder effort missed, so in OOTP9 you would have just seen: " but he can't make the catch..." or one of the other 15 or so in there.

It was added to offset the extraordinary catches, where he dives and catches and rolls up and all is fine. Now when you see him dive and catch, he could lose it when he hits the ground or the wall.

The frequencies have been turned down for the next patch.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:17 PM   #24
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I think I consider the pbp text as a little radio announcer in my head. That said, this announcer sure thinks every deep ball "has a chance". It's like going to the park with someone who doesn't watch much baseball and they can't judge the trajectory of fly balls. I want my pbp guy (or gal) to have a little more experience than is indicated by a constant stream of "that ball's got a chance . . . and now it's caught". Having this happen occasionally is great, especially when it's about 50/50 how it will resolve, but this year's pbp guy just isn't much of a judge.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:20 PM   #25
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The "has a chance" frequency has also been dialed down for the patch.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:22 PM   #26
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I think I consider the pbp text as a little radio announcer in my head. That said, this announcer sure thinks every deep ball "has a chance". It's like going to the park with someone who doesn't watch much baseball and they can't judge the trajectory of fly balls. I want my pbp guy (or gal) to have a little more experience than is indicated by a constant stream of "that ball's got a chance . . . and now it's caught". Having this happen occasionally is great, especially when it's about 50/50 how it will resolve, but this year's pbp guy just isn't much of a judge.
We've toned those down too. The guy who alerted me to that one mentioned John Sterling, Yankee broadcaster.

Contract problems for the release version caused us to hire a below average replacement announcer... contract negotiations are going well and our regular announcer should be back in the seat for the next patch.

Just joking, of course, the limited usage lines are new.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:28 PM   #27
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Don't know exactly how this feature is linked to the pbp text, but I'd like to see (hear, actually) more correlation between game situation and crowd noises; i.e.,more accurate crowd reactions to the game. I think this has improved over previous game versions, but there are still times when great things happen on the field with zero crowd reaction.

Just a general opinion: Playing solo OOTP without pbp is like eating tuna without the mayo; not bad, but a little dry.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:31 PM   #28
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I am not sure about 10, but last year never did a foul ball go into the stands. I think a little suspense about foul toward the stands, and into the stands, so and so has new life would add a little. I knew if the ball was foul, it was an out.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:03 PM   #29
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I think I consider the pbp text as a little radio announcer in my head. That said, this announcer sure thinks every deep ball "has a chance". It's like going to the park with someone who doesn't watch much baseball and they can't judge the trajectory of fly balls. I want my pbp guy (or gal) to have a little more experience than is indicated by a constant stream of "that ball's got a chance . . . and now it's caught". Having this happen occasionally is great, especially when it's about 50/50 how it will resolve, but this year's pbp guy just isn't much of a judge.
Red Sox radio man, Joe Castiglione is like this. Every fly ball, is "There's a drive, sending [OF] back, to the track...caught." It's abject torture to listen to him.

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Old 06-08-2009, 03:08 PM   #30
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I haven't had many balls dropped in play, but I would say there's too many tipped balls to the catcher and checked swing appeals (way too many tipped balls, not quite so many checked swings). Generally, though, I'm really enjoying my pbp experience.
I tweaked down the appeals on balls and strikes that weren't ball four or strike 3. They should look a little better now.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:33 PM   #31
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Or one per couple of months would be ok
I could live with that.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:08 PM   #32
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Maybe late in a game, when the count goes to 2-2, have a pause where the pitcher steps off, or asks for another sign, wipes his brow, or the batter steps out, looks down to 3rd base for a sign, etc, before the key pitch is delivered.
I like these. I'll add something like this to my list (which is rather long) for hopefully getting pieces added in.

Especially if it's a situation where the winning run is on second or third...

There's a whole lot of things that could go in now, and only so much we have the time or energy to think up on our own. We can get down to 3-2 count in the bottom of the tenth with the bases loaded and a fastball having been the pitch delivered... that's a lot of possible variety.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:22 PM   #33
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I play out my games and I've noticed an inordinate amount of fly balls caught by an OF, then the OF crashes into the wall, then the ball pops out for a hit. Anyone else finding that this happens WAY TOO MUCH?
I agree.
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Let's not beat a dead horse. The changes have been made to "dropped" fly balls. Can we move on?
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:01 PM   #35
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I am not sure about 10, but last year never did a foul ball go into the stands. I think a little suspense about foul toward the stands, and into the stands, so and so has new life would add a little. I knew if the ball was foul, it was an out.


i like this idea. I have yet to ever see a popup heading foul or flyball down the line that doesn't get caught. I admit ive seen a few times now where it says theres confusion on the field and no one takes proper charge and it drops but never that it straight up left the field of play.
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i like this idea. I have yet to ever see a popup heading foul or flyball down the line that doesn't get caught. I admit ive seen a few times now where it says theres confusion on the field and no one takes proper charge and it drops but never that it straight up left the field of play.
I don't understand. You've not seen foul balls except for outs? Or have the foul balls you've seen go like "Johnson swings... and slaps it foul wide of first." ?

There's quite a few objects for foul balls, and several of them seem to have this type of action... popped up wide of first... drifting... and into the stands. Are they just not matching up with foul balls caught well enough that you know which they'll be?
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I know what you mean, they also enjoy to trick me into thinking any fly ball can be a homerun, much the same way real announcers do.
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I know what you mean, they also enjoy to trick me into thinking any fly ball can be a homerun, much the same way real announcers do.
At least it doesn't trick you into thinking it's a routine popup... and it's out of here! HR for Johnson! That was 2006 though.
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I don't understand. You've not seen foul balls except for outs? Or have the foul balls you've seen go like "Johnson swings... and slaps it foul wide of first." ?

There's quite a few objects for foul balls, and several of them seem to have this type of action... popped up wide of first... drifting... and into the stands. Are they just not matching up with foul balls caught well enough that you know which they'll be?

Basically ive never seen a foul ball in the pbp. I have seen where it says the defense boned up and let one drop and it was foul but i have never seen a ball strictly be foul on the pbp. So ur example "Johnson swings... and slaps it foul wide of first." I have never seen anything like that at all.
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Basically ive never seen a foul ball in the pbp. I have seen where it says the defense boned up and let one drop and it was foul but i have never seen a ball strictly be foul on the pbp. So ur example "Johnson swings... and slaps it foul wide of first." I have never seen anything like that at all.
Do you play pitch by pitch or in one pitch mode?

Perhaps one pitch mode cuts out our foul ball categories.
I haven't heard that complaint before.
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