strange case of players disappearing from rosters

thehef · 06-05-2009, 03:47 AM

This is a strange one. I did some quick searching and couldn't find it anywhere in the forums...

In my historical league that started in 1901, I added one level of minors in 1910 (using the Spritze/Garlon 750 db, there seemed to be enough players to fill 16 minors teams). No problems in years 1910-1912...

Before starting the 1913 regular season, I scanned the minor-league rosters just to make sure there were enough players on each team, at each position. While doing this, I noticed that two of the teams had no players listed on the Roster, Transactions, Pitching, or Lineups sheets. My first thought was that for some reason the two parent clubs did not trim their rosters down to 25 and send players down the minors. But when I checked the two parent clubs, they had 25 players... I then checked the transaction lists to see if there was some mass-release of players, but no... So I then used the search feature to check on a few players who I know should've been on the minor-league teams; they showed up in the search screen as actually on the right team... Not knowing what else to do, I went to the roster screen and selected Action, Ask AI to Setup Complete Team Lineups, etc. And then the players appeared...

So at that point I just chalked it up to gremlins and moved forward with the season, but when I checked the teams after one week of sim play, the rosters were back to empty. And, to add more puzzlement, sometimes the Lineups & Depth Charts on the bottom of the screen will show the players, but no players will be listed in the main panel above it. The same is true on the pitching screen... I can keep asking AI to setup the team, but sometimes after one day, sometimes after a few, the players will just disappear from view...

Note that this is NOT a filter issue... Also, if I try to manage a game with these teams, I will get the starters listed in the starting lineups, but the entire bench is made up of Joe Unknowns. Not even the starters are listed on the roster in red, as they should be...

(Checking the Prevent AI Roster Moves boxes at the parent club level does keep the players from disappearing, but that's not really a solution.)

I can go back to a previous backup and hopefully the problem will not evolve again, but I am wondering if anyone has encountered anything like this before?

Thanks in advance.

06-05-2009, 03:47 AM	#1
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,380	strange case of players disappearing from rosters This is a strange one. I did some quick searching and couldn't find it anywhere in the forums... In my historical league that started in 1901, I added one level of minors in 1910 (using the Spritze/Garlon 750 db, there seemed to be enough players to fill 16 minors teams). No problems in years 1910-1912... Before starting the 1913 regular season, I scanned the minor-league rosters just to make sure there were enough players on each team, at each position. While doing this, I noticed that two of the teams had no players listed on the Roster, Transactions, Pitching, or Lineups sheets. My first thought was that for some reason the two parent clubs did not trim their rosters down to 25 and send players down the minors. But when I checked the two parent clubs, they had 25 players... I then checked the transaction lists to see if there was some mass-release of players, but no... So I then used the search feature to check on a few players who I know should've been on the minor-league teams; they showed up in the search screen as actually on the right team... Not knowing what else to do, I went to the roster screen and selected Action, Ask AI to Setup Complete Team Lineups, etc. And then the players appeared... So at that point I just chalked it up to gremlins and moved forward with the season, but when I checked the teams after one week of sim play, the rosters were back to empty. And, to add more puzzlement, sometimes the Lineups & Depth Charts on the bottom of the screen will show the players, but no players will be listed in the main panel above it. The same is true on the pitching screen... I can keep asking AI to setup the team, but sometimes after one day, sometimes after a few, the players will just disappear from view... Note that this is NOT a filter issue... Also, if I try to manage a game with these teams, I will get the starters listed in the starting lineups, but the entire bench is made up of Joe Unknowns. Not even the starters are listed on the roster in red, as they should be... (Checking the Prevent AI Roster Moves boxes at the parent club level does keep the players from disappearing, but that's not really a solution.) I can go back to a previous backup and hopefully the problem will not evolve again, but I am wondering if anyone has encountered anything like this before? Thanks in advance.