Financial Utility

seth70liz76 · 04-20-2003, 05:33 PM

For my league I'm setting up, I'm not useing the major league cities, more like AAA and below. Is there a utility that helps rein in the financials to make them more realistic for teams with payrolls (and populations) below MLB cities?

rferry · 04-21-2003, 10:14 PM

no, but it is to be included within the game with one of the upcoming patches.

LedgerSko · 04-21-2003, 11:22 PM

Yeah I was hoping it would be in this patch, but it wasnt. Look for it in the next patch.

seth70liz76 · 04-22-2003, 01:44 PM

Any idea when this patch will be out? I'm not in a hurry, (I have alot of Lahman importing to do) but just curious

HolyCow98 · 04-22-2003, 04:30 PM

No mention of any date that I am aware, only the comment that it has been a little tricky to code and that it has been posponed to a later update, maybe the next one, but no one has officailly said that to my knowledge.

TheRockCT · 04-22-2003, 08:48 PM

If I had to gauge an estimate on the next patch, I would expect it before June rolls around. I know it sounds like a long way away, but Markus works his butt off more than most game developers do, so anything he does is well worth the wait.

Having said that, I am looking forward to the financial system that's being worked on, as I'm sure most people are. I was reading an article last night and saw that just 15 years ago, in 1988, Gary Carter was the league's highest player at $2,360,714 per season. Un-freakin' believable to see that figure blown up 10x in that span. I'd like to be able to see highest paid players make the Gary Carter level once more, especially in historical leagues and fictional ones that have less-productive markets.

Le Grande Orange · 04-22-2003, 09:48 PM

Well, that $2.4 million in 1988 dollars is the equivalent of $3.6 million in 2002 dollars.

In comparison, the highest paid player in 1961 was making $85,000 per year. That is the equivalent of $511,000 per year in 2002 dollars.

So, yeah, the players today are making far more money than players in the past.

I'd still like to see a "simple" economic system make it into OOTP as well; rather than just having a sliding scale to shift salaries to more era-appropriate values, I'd still like to have financial concerns but have free agency off (in other words, mimic the reserve clause years).

While you wouldn't have to worry about escalating salaries from free agent competition, you'd still have to pay players and coaches, worry about your attendances brining in enough revenue, and negotiate with players when their contracts are up. While they may not be able to go to another team, they may decide to sit out the season if they don't like your contract offer. So, there'd still be some things to deal with financially as a GM, even without free agency.

I'd expect it'd be a lot easier to make era-appropriate salaries this way as well.

That would be my financial wish list for the update, anyway.

CareyScurry · 04-22-2003, 10:29 PM

LGE,
That ("simple" system) is an excellent idea.

TwinMonster · 04-23-2003, 04:22 PM

I vote we make all ballplayers live like monks and play baseball just because they enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!

04-20-2003, 05:33 PM	#1
seth70liz76 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,634	Financial Utility For my league I'm setting up, I'm not useing the major league cities, more like AAA and below. Is there a utility that helps rein in the financials to make them more realistic for teams with payrolls (and populations) below MLB cities?

04-21-2003, 10:14 PM	#2
rferry All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: DC Posts: 549	no, but it is to be included within the game with one of the upcoming patches. __________________ please excuse my grammar, i read baseball weekly in my high school english classes.

04-22-2003, 04:30 PM	#5
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	No mention of any date that I am aware, only the comment that it has been a little tricky to code and that it has been posponed to a later update, maybe the next one, but no one has officailly said that to my knowledge. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

04-22-2003, 08:48 PM	#6
TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	If I had to gauge an estimate on the next patch, I would expect it before June rolls around. I know it sounds like a long way away, but Markus works his butt off more than most game developers do, so anything he does is well worth the wait. Having said that, I am looking forward to the financial system that's being worked on, as I'm sure most people are. I was reading an article last night and saw that just 15 years ago, in 1988, Gary Carter was the league's highest player at $2,360,714 per season. Un-freakin' believable to see that figure blown up 10x in that span. I'd like to be able to see highest paid players make the Gary Carter level once more, especially in historical leagues and fictional ones that have less-productive markets. __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

04-21-2003, 11:22 PM	#3
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085	Yeah I was hoping it would be in this patch, but it wasnt. Look for it in the next patch.

04-22-2003, 01:44 PM	#4
seth70liz76 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,634	Any idea when this patch will be out? I'm not in a hurry, (I have alot of Lahman importing to do) but just curious

04-22-2003, 09:48 PM	#7
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,642	Well, that $2.4 million in 1988 dollars is the equivalent of $3.6 million in 2002 dollars. In comparison, the highest paid player in 1961 was making $85,000 per year. That is the equivalent of $511,000 per year in 2002 dollars. So, yeah, the players today are making far more money than players in the past. I'd still like to see a "simple" economic system make it into OOTP as well; rather than just having a sliding scale to shift salaries to more era-appropriate values, I'd still like to have financial concerns but have free agency off (in other words, mimic the reserve clause years). While you wouldn't have to worry about escalating salaries from free agent competition, you'd still have to pay players and coaches, worry about your attendances brining in enough revenue, and negotiate with players when their contracts are up. While they may not be able to go to another team, they may decide to sit out the season if they don't like your contract offer. So, there'd still be some things to deal with financially as a GM, even without free agency. I'd expect it'd be a lot easier to make era-appropriate salaries this way as well. That would be my financial wish list for the update, anyway.

04-22-2003, 10:29 PM	#8
CareyScurry Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NC Posts: 109	LGE, That ("simple" system) is an excellent idea.

04-23-2003, 04:22 PM	#9
TwinMonster Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minnepolis Posts: 325	I vote we make all ballplayers live like monks and play baseball just because they enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!