So, how many of you impatient pre order folks... - Page 2

RobWarwick · 05-22-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Feezite

So that means you do care.

The proper expression, of course, is "I could NOT care less".

This bastardization of a perfectly wonderful expression is right up there with that new so-called word, "irregardless", as an example that it's the end of the world as we know it.

I agree with you on "irregardless"....it's "regardless". but, "'i could care less"? I'm not so sure.

Curtis · 05-22-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RobWarwick

Those of us who paid their hard earned money for a baseball game that we had every right to expect would be released sometime around the start of the MLB season have EVERY RIGHT TO BE AGGRAVATED.

And you apologists...instead of flaming anyone who dares bitches, you ought to be directing your flames at the game dev who is not only screwing me, but you too! Your just to freaking stupid to realize it.

The combination of no game and you apologists have made it highly unlikely that I will ever buy this game in the future.

You had no right to assume it would be released around opening day. It was never stated nor implied in the advertising. You trying to hold the developer to a standard you set up without consulting him just means you aren't living in the real world. They're taking orders for electric cars that won't roll off the assembly line until 2011. If you ordered one, would you start bitching in January 2011? You wouldn't have a right to bitch until January 2012.

I'm not being screwed. I didn't have unreasonable expectations. I also didn't pre-order until last week. I think you're really mad at yourself for behaving foolishly.

If you don't buy the game in the future, few of us will miss you.

wallball · 05-22-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RobWarwick

I agree with you on "irregardless"....it's "regardless". but, "'i could care less"? I'm not so sure.

I'm with Feezite on this one. How this phrase has not only been twisted but become so widely accepted is beyond me. If you could care less about something then it might not be so bad. But if you couldn't care less then you really don't give a damn.

toxicavenger74 · 05-22-2009, 01:34 PM

Curtis bringing the heat. I haven't seen somebody taken to the woodshed on a messageboard so effectively ever.

Electrovik · 05-22-2009, 01:41 PM

I have a solution for you, if you still want the game to be delivered on time for the start of the MLB season : get a refund and buy the game back just before opening day or spring training of the 2010 MLB season. This way you'll save some money and you'll get OOTPX in time for the start of the season!

If the system does not work like you want it to, make it work like you want it to work!

I guess I'm just being an assologist...

Lou Wuerfelball · 05-22-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by toxicavenger74

Curtis bringing the heat. I haven't seen somebody taken to the woodshed on a messageboard so effectively ever.

Yeah, but what did it accomplish.

Mntwins · 05-22-2009, 01:59 PM

It's kinda cool that next year we won't have to deal with RobWarwick!

Get a refund, then go back to Mogul.

Curtis · 05-22-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou Wuerfelball

Yeah, but what did it accomplish?

It lowered my blood pressure.

JackRules1 · 05-22-2009, 02:00 PM

Buyer Beware!!!

I put $4G into my IRA last year and it's worth about $1.75 now. Should I go down and assault my advisor? "You pays your money and you takes your chances".

Déjà Bru · 05-22-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toxicavenger74

Curtis bringing the heat. I haven't seen somebody taken to the woodshed on a messageboard so effectively ever.

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Originally Posted by Curtis

It lowered my blood pressure.

Curtis, I remember you when you were a wimpy noob!

Curtis · 05-22-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Curtis, I remember you when you were a wimpy noob!

Bru, you came on the board a month after I did (but you were never wimpy.)

RobWarwick · 05-22-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

You had no right to assume it would be released around opening day. It was never stated nor implied in the advertising. You trying to hold the developer to a standard you set up without consulting him just means you aren't living in the real world. They're taking orders for electric cars that won't roll off the assembly line until 2011. If you ordered one, would you start bitching in January 2011? You wouldn't have a right to bitch until January 2012.

I'm not being screwed. I didn't have unreasonable expectations. I also didn't pre-order until last week. I think you're really mad at yourself for behaving foolishly.

If you don't buy the game in the future, few of us will miss you.

well seeing how you have SQUAT to do with the game, I could care less if you miss me or not. Markus is the one who ought to be concerned for [beep] speaking for him all the time. If he loses a customer because of a [beep] like you speaking for him, then he ought to be very concerned. And if you think you are doing him a favor by being a [beep] to noobs, then you are also a [beep].

and again, only an apologist would think it outrageous for a person to think, back in Feb when pre-orders were offered, that when he stated spring release he meant some time around the beginning of the MLB season.....after all, it's a freaking BASEBALL GAME

I didnt think it had to be before the season or on opening day....just sometime around the opening of season....a couple weeks after, fine. but not when 25% of the season was already over.

Déjà Bru · 05-22-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

Bru, you came on the board a month after I did (but you were never wimpy.)

Oh yeah. I forgot about that.

Edit: Woof. I'll get out of the way of you two now. Go to battle, my young apprentice!

hyde4us11 · 05-22-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RobWarwick

Unbelievable the apologists on this board. Those of us who paid their hard earned money for a baseball game that we had every right to expect would be released sometime around the start of the MLB season have EVERY RIGHT TO BE AGGRAVATED. And we have every right to come here and bitch. My money in that guy's pocket has given me that right.

And you apologists...instead of flaming anyone who dares bitches, you ought to be directing your flames at the game dev who is not only screwing me, but you too! Your just to freaking stupid to realize it.

My money is in his pocket and I have nothing for it. I have every right to bitch and will continue to do so. The combination of no game and you apologists have made it highly unlikely that I will ever buy this game in the future.

My only point i have here is, you didn't have to give you hard earned money at anytime. You have every right to not buy it if you so choose. That's a choice you made.

endgame · 05-22-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RobWarwick

well seeing how you have SQUAT to do with the game, I could care less if you miss me or not. Markus is the one who ought to be concerned for pompous dicks speaking for him all the time. If he loses a customer because of a dickwad like you speaking for him, then he ought to be very concerned. And if you think you are doing him a favor by being a dickwad to noobs, then you are also a moron.

and again, only an apologist would think it outrageous for a person to think, back in Feb when pre-orders were offered, that when he stated spring release he meant some time around the beginning of the MLB season.....after all, it's a freaking BASEBALL GAME

I didnt think it had to be before the season or on opening day....just sometime around the opening of season....a couple weeks after, fine. but not when 25% of the season was already over.

I'll spend too much of the balance of the day trying to reconcile a post that contains the word apologist in the midst of an otherwise inarguably elementary school rant.

JackRules1 · 05-22-2009, 02:29 PM

Rob, you don't happen to see a kettle anywhere nearby, do you?

Rangers_Fan · 05-22-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RobWarwick

and again, only an apologist would think it outrageous for a person to think, back in Feb when pre-orders were offered, that when he stated spring release he meant some time around the beginning of the MLB season.....after all, it's a freaking BASEBALL GAME

Like you, I assumed the release would be a little closer to opening day than it's turning out to be. But isn't the operative word in your posting "GAME"? Is it really worth getting that worked up over? Like you, I paid my money (and at times am missing it), but don't forget that people are working on the GAME, and the delays are hurting them as much as (probably more than) they're hurting you or me.

I'm still (somewhat impatiently) waiting for the release, and still playing 9 until 10 is released, but frankly no GAME is worth raising my blood pressure.

By the way, I love the improvements/addtions in 10. I hope they live up to expectations.

Dargone · 05-22-2009, 02:35 PM

Guuuhhh...

cody8200 · 05-22-2009, 02:39 PM

It is a baseball game Rob. It is baseball season. The game did not come out when MLB: The Show did but then again, the game is created by a very small team and is infinitely more complicated(you may think otherwise but the engine is indeed much more complicated). When you pre-ordered you agreed to give your money to a company that has delivered 9 other baseball games. Name another company that has done that (your list should only include 2 or 3 others-tops) You also acknowledged that the time line was a spring time line. Most text based companies do not release a specific date because they don't want to have to worry about deadlines and constant barrage of forum posts. The game will be out in about 10 days now. Give it some time and cool off a bit. I am sure you are really going to like the game. In the meantime, try out OOTP 9 or go download the full version of OOTP 5 which is now free.

The OOTP community are not apologists, instead they are loyalists. Many have played OOTP since version 4 or before. You will have a tough time convincing them you are right when many have literally had 1000's of hours of OOTP enjoyment over the years.

However, Markus should be more vocal with the forum members. After the recent pleas, he made an announcement today so maybe posts like yours are the way to get your message across. The game is worth the wait. Just relax.

senorcoo · 05-22-2009, 02:40 PM

I don't understand how people can have such empty lives that their whole existence hangs on the release of a game. Don't get me wrong - I love OOTP, but it just adds to my life. It ISN'T my life.

05-22-2009, 01:59 PM	#27
Mntwins Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minot ND Posts: 379	It's kinda cool that next year we won't have to deal with RobWarwick! Get a refund, then go back to Mogul. Last edited by Mntwins; 05-22-2009 at 02:01 PM.

05-22-2009, 02:35 PM	#38
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Guuuhhh... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-22-2009, 01:34 PM	#24
toxicavenger74 All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 553	Curtis bringing the heat. I haven't seen somebody taken to the woodshed on a messageboard so effectively ever.

05-22-2009, 01:41 PM	#25
Electrovik Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Québec Posts: 152	I have a solution for you, if you still want the game to be delivered on time for the start of the MLB season : get a refund and buy the game back just before opening day or spring training of the 2010 MLB season. This way you'll save some money and you'll get OOTPX in time for the start of the season! If the system does not work like you want it to, make it work like you want it to work! I guess I'm just being an assologist...

05-22-2009, 02:00 PM	#29
JackRules1 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 245	Buyer Beware!!! I put $4G into my IRA last year and it's worth about $1.75 now. Should I go down and assault my advisor? "You pays your money and you takes your chances".

05-22-2009, 02:29 PM	#36
JackRules1 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 245	Rob, you don't happen to see a kettle anywhere nearby, do you?

05-22-2009, 02:39 PM	#39
cody8200 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,436	It is a baseball game Rob. It is baseball season. The game did not come out when MLB: The Show did but then again, the game is created by a very small team and is infinitely more complicated(you may think otherwise but the engine is indeed much more complicated). When you pre-ordered you agreed to give your money to a company that has delivered 9 other baseball games. Name another company that has done that (your list should only include 2 or 3 others-tops) You also acknowledged that the time line was a spring time line. Most text based companies do not release a specific date because they don't want to have to worry about deadlines and constant barrage of forum posts. The game will be out in about 10 days now. Give it some time and cool off a bit. I am sure you are really going to like the game. In the meantime, try out OOTP 9 or go download the full version of OOTP 5 which is now free. The OOTP community are not apologists, instead they are loyalists. Many have played OOTP since version 4 or before. You will have a tough time convincing them you are right when many have literally had 1000's of hours of OOTP enjoyment over the years. However, Markus should be more vocal with the forum members. After the recent pleas, he made an announcement today so maybe posts like yours are the way to get your message across. The game is worth the wait. Just relax.

05-22-2009, 02:40 PM	#40
senorcoo Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 103	I don't understand how people can have such empty lives that their whole existence hangs on the release of a game. Don't get me wrong - I love OOTP, but it just adds to my life. It ISN'T my life.