THRILLER IN MANILA by John Dower

[CONN CHRIS]

Thriller in Manila | Sundance Festival 2009


I just watched a short piece about this documentary on BBC news. It debuted at the Sundance Film Festival and I was wondering if anyone has seen it.

I will be looking for a way to find the film as soon as my schedule frees up but I was curious to hear thoughts from someone who might have watched it.

[bear]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Thriller in Manila | Sundance Festival 2009


I just watched a short piece about this documentary on BBC news. It debuted at the Sundance Film Festival and I was wondering if anyone has seen it.

I will be looking for a way to find the film as soon as my schedule frees up but I was curious to hear thoughts from someone who might have watched it.

Tax time will soon be over.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by bear

Tax time will soon be over.

My hair is on fire Don

[kenyan_cheena]

When does the fiscal year end in the USA? Over here in Australia it runs from July 1 to June 30, so the busiest time of the year for me is early July.

[bear]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

When does the fiscal year end in the USA? Over here in Australia it runs from July 1 to June 30, so the busiest time of the year for me is early July.

Pretty much the same here, but there is the IRS deadline of April 15th for filing income tax returns.

[kenyan_cheena]

Thanks, bear. Over here they only give us until 31 October to get our returns done.

[CONN CHRIS]

In the U.S. individuals have to file on a calendar year basis with returns due April 15.

Corporate calendar year entities have a March 15 deadline, partnerships share the individual deadline and non-profit entities have a May 15 deadline.

Entities (those that are not flow throughs) can select a fiscal year end to report on; common year-ends are March 31, June 30 and September 30 but anything is ok if it fits a given industry business cycle. I have one October year-end client.

Governmental entities mostly have June 30 year ends and many non-profits that receive government funding select that year end as well to match grant periods.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

In the U.S. individuals have to file on a calendar year basis with returns due April 15.

Corporate calendar year entities have a March 15 deadline, partnerships share the individual deadline and non-profit entities have a May 15 deadline.

Entities (those that are not flow throughs) can select a fiscal year end to report on; common year-ends are March 31, June 30 and September 30 but anything is ok if it fits a given industry business cycle. I have one October year-end client.

Governmental entities mostly have June 30 year ends and many non-profits that receive government funding select that year end as well to match grant periods.

Get back to work!!

(Can I bring you a shoebox full of receipts Monday?)

[bear]

Originally Posted by Thunder

Get back to work!!

(Can I bring you a shoebox full of receipts Monday?)

One of our pre-Blaggo politicians here had shoes boxes full of money.

Since we've had so many of these guys in office I don't remember which one.

There was one secretary of state that insisted that all checks sent to the secretary of state's office be made out to

His own name, Secretary of State of Illinois
The people who just wrote out checks to His own name while omitting his title were just handing him the cash.

bear

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by bear

One of our pre-Blaggo politicians here had shoes boxes full of money.

Since we've had so many of these guys in office I don't remember which one.

There was one secretary of state that insisted that all checks sent to the secretary of state's office be made out to

His own name, Secretary of State of Illinois
The people who just wrote out checks to His own name while omitting his title were just handing him the cash.

bear

hysterical man

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Thunder

Get back to work!!

(Can I bring you a shoebox full of receipts Monday?)

If I only had a dollar for every time someone drop a box of rumpled papers on my porch and ran...

[PWillisTheMan]

It was great, choked me up big time, though I was heavily under the influence of my beloved alcohol. I grew up an Ali fan, but the years have totally changed my stance and I am 100% Frazier now.

It's real easy for people to say Joe should forgive him. But that was some despicable stuff. Muhammad gets a pass for too much of his behavior because of his brilliance in the ring and his status in other channels outside of it.

He should have had more respect for his greatest rival who beat him when they were both closest to their best. The whole promoting the fight excuse is just that.

None of those fights needed Ali degrading Joe Frazier to sell tickets. He did it to be cruel and for no other reason. In a lot of ways I think muhammad was jealous of Joe.

[Ric915]

Originally Posted by PWillisTheMan

It was great, choked me up big time, though I was heavily under the influence of my beloved alcohol. I grew up an Ali fan, but the years have totally changed my stance and I am 100% Frazier now.

It's real easy for people to say Joe should forgive him. But that was some despicable stuff. Muhammad gets a pass for too much of his behavior because of his brilliance in the ring and his status in other channels outside of it.

He should have had more respect for his greatest rival who beat him when they were both closest to their best. The whole promoting the fight excuse is just that.

None of those fights needed Ali degrading Joe Frazier to sell tickets. He did it to be cruel and for no other reason. In a lot of ways I think muhammad was jealous of Joe.

I completely agree it was a very well done documentary. For Ali to act the way he did to Joe after all that Joe did for him has unfortunately made Joe a very bitter man. and it's completely understandeable. If someone had done that to me I couldn't honestly say I could forgive him. But back on point a very good documentary.

Side not my wife watched it with me and she did not know the ending of the fight and she was so mad Joe lost. She's all That sucks, They let him fight like that the last two rounds they should have let him finish the fight.

[bear]

Originally Posted by bear

One of our pre-Blaggo politicians here had shoes boxes full of money.

Since we've had so many of these guys in office I don't remember which one.

There was one secretary of state that insisted that all checks sent to the secretary of state's office be made out to

His own name, Secretary of State of Illinois
The people who just wrote out checks to His own name while omitting his title were just handing him the cash.

bear

It was Paul Powell

Tom McMahon: Paul Powell: The Illinois Democrat Who Died With $800,000 In His Shoebox

PAUL POWELL OF ILLINOIS

Paul Powell's Nest Egg - TIME

bear

[Jersey-Jim]

Joe's been down a hard road all these years. I think his attitude towards Ali is much better now than it has been over the last 30+ years, though. He seems to have more fans and more people taking notice of his accomplishments now, than let's say - ten years ago.

He had the misfortune of running into George Foreman which derailed his run at the top. The Frazier who beat Ali in the fight of the century, though, would match up well against many other of the top Heavyweights. And he only weighed around 200-205 pounds for that fight!

[PWillisTheMan]

Joe is a rough night for any Heavyweight. Even Foreman's hands had to hurt something fierce.

Imo, he won more rds than Ali did during the trilogy. Muhammad deserves the higher placement. But if they fought 10 times, it's 5 a piece.

[Jersey-Jim]

Ali was also anti-establishment which over the course of time has become a very popular view with people of all ages, colors, beliefs, etc. I guess you could say his popularity grew exponentially right along with society’s anti-establishment, anti-governmental views. Did I say that right??

It became more than boxing. Ali backed right into a role without even realizing the depth of it and became a political icon through the years that followed. That type of “hero worship” carried over and colored some people’s perception of him as a fighter in the ring, believing him to be unbeatable at his best.

Today, most people believe what Ali believed back then. That rich powerful people with an agenda have no problem exploiting the poor! And he’s celebrated by many for it.

Joe on the other hand, is seen as an ex-fighter. Period. Today, though, the balance is shifting back and people are starting to appreciate Joe in a new light.

And to think it only took about 40 years?