What ratings system do you use?

thermocaster · 04-08-2009, 10:45 PM

I was wondering what in-game ratings system (i.e., 1-20, 20-80, 1-100) that you guys use...and why do you use it?

I have tended to use the 1-100 ratings system because I figured it gave me greater specific insight into a player's stats, but as I've looked at a lot of dynasty reports and other screencaps, it seems that a lot of people use the 1-20 system.

Just was wanting to hear your rationale(s) for the ratings numbers that you used. Thanks!

Afino · 04-08-2009, 11:17 PM

How are you faring? If you're winning a lot, you might want to try going down to 1-20 or less (preferably 1-10) to not "greater specific insight into a player's stats", which gives you a HUGE advantage over the AI.

Say a player has a Contact of 7 under a 1-10 scale. Well, that 7 could correspond to anything from 65 to 74 under a 1-100 scale. If you had two players, one with 74 Contact, and the other with 65 Contact (everything else equal), which one would YOU play?

Now with the 1-10 scale, they just both show as 7.

I started with 1-100. As I got better and needed a challenge, I dropped it to 1-10 with 1-5 Potential. 1-5 (especially for Potential) is even more of a challenge because of how I outlined it above.

satchel · 04-08-2009, 11:18 PM

Jamaica League uses the 1-5 just to keep things as nebulous as possible, while still having some idea.

Dog Days uses the 1-10 for talent and 1-5 for ratings, which I think is a clever approach.

thermocaster · 04-09-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Afino

How are you faring? If you're winning a lot, you might want to try going down to 1-20 or less (preferably 1-10) to not "greater specific insight into a player's stats", which gives you a HUGE advantage over the AI.

Say a player has a Contact of 7 under a 1-10 scale. Well, that 7 could correspond to anything from 65 to 74 under a 1-100 scale. If you had two players, one with 74 Contact, and the other with 65 Contact (everything else equal), which one would YOU play?

Now with the 1-10 scale, they just both show as 7.

I started with 1-100. As I got better and needed a challenge, I dropped it to 1-10 with 1-5 Potential. 1-5 (especially for Potential) is even more of a challenge because of how I outlined it above.

Interesting. Hadn't thought about it that way, but it makes perfect sense.

As for how I'm faring...pretty well, considering my in-game managerial skills aren't that great yet. I'll try dialing the ratings down and see how I do.

Okay, one other question...does anyone play with Ratings < Max on? I flipped it on once and a couple of my guys had ratings of about 140, which I wasn't sure how to react to.

satchel · 04-09-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thermocaster

Okay, one other question...does anyone play with Ratings < Max on? I flipped it on once and a couple of my guys had ratings of about 140, which I wasn't sure how to react to.

I find that about half of online leagues expose ratings>max and half leave ratings exposure capped at the max.

fantom1979 · 04-09-2009, 03:25 PM

i use 1-10 ratings across the board. It is what the old OOTP games used, and I guess I just use it out of habit.

canadiancreed · 04-09-2009, 03:29 PM

1-10 for me when I use ratings at all.

SSG Troyer · 04-10-2009, 02:08 PM

2-8 for both ratings and talent. They say that's what real scouts use, and if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me...

Mike Donlin · 04-10-2009, 02:42 PM

2-8. I think real scouts use 20-80, but that seems a little too accurate for my tastes.

Curtis · 04-10-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Donlin

I think real scouts use 20-80…

According to "Inside Pitch" magazine, real scouts use 20-80 rounded to the nearest 5. I've submitted that as a suggestion for Version 10.

gord · 04-10-2009, 03:20 PM

20-80 for that ^^^ reason

thermocaster · 04-10-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

According to "Inside Pitch" magazine, real scouts use 20-80 rounded to the nearest 5. I've submitted that as a suggestion for Version 10.

Interesting.

Why is it that scouts use that system? Does anyone know the origin of that particular metric? I don't think I've ever seen it anywhere else.

Thanks for all the responses to this topic.

Curtis · 04-10-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thermocaster

Why is it that scouts use that system? Does anyone know the origin of that particular metric? I don't think I've ever seen it anywhere else.

I don't think I have, either, and I don't know why they do. The idea is that 50 = average major leaguer for that particular skill. I'd have to dig back some years to find the article, but I don't recall there being any equivalent to Overall or Potential, just individual skill ratings.

Corsairs · 04-10-2009, 05:41 PM

The PEBA currently uses a 1-100 scale. At this time we're discussing the possibility of changing to a more restrictive scale for precisely the reason others have mentioned; the 1-100 scale really provides a little too much information. Personally speaking, I don't think a real scout would be able to report that a player had gained precisely 2% on his contact skill over a period of time. He's more likely to take note when that player takes a more sizable step forward.

Right now a potential rating scale change is in the hands of the owners; we'll see what they think. Just from my own perspective, though: as someone who has spent a lot of time playing with 1-100 I'd recommend trying a scale that provides more obfuscation.

Starshadow · 04-10-2009, 05:55 PM

I use the 1-100 ratings for the most part for just simming, but when I'm actually managing/GMing, I use 1-10 potentials and other ratings, stars, and no current ratings.

akw4572 · 04-10-2009, 07:15 PM

I've recently gone to talent only. It's been a blast.

ScottZ · 04-11-2009, 10:27 AM

I've been a 1-10 player but I enjoy going ratingless once in a while.

Afino · 04-11-2009, 10:37 AM

Personally, I think ratings off is TOO challenging.

If I did it that way, I'd have to at least keep potential on.

satchel · 04-11-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

According to "Inside Pitch" magazine, real scouts use 20-80 rounded to the nearest 5. I've submitted that as a suggestion for Version 10.

The 20-80 ratings system, in increments of 5, is already available in the game.

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Originally Posted by thermocaster

Why is it that scouts use that system?

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Originally Posted by Curtis

The idea is that 50 = average major leaguer for that particular skill.

I'd guess that Curtis is correct. Using a 20-80 scale makes 50 the true middle average, with an even number of steps on each side, and all the ratings figures are double digits, there's no "0" or "100."

Curtis · 04-15-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by satchel

The 20-80 ratings system, in increments of 5, is already available in the game.

Not in mine. Mine has 20-80 by ones, or 2-8 (which is 20-80 by tens).

04-08-2009, 10:45 PM	#1
thermocaster Bat Boy Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8	What ratings system do you use? I was wondering what in-game ratings system (i.e., 1-20, 20-80, 1-100) that you guys use...and why do you use it? I have tended to use the 1-100 ratings system because I figured it gave me greater specific insight into a player's stats, but as I've looked at a lot of dynasty reports and other screencaps, it seems that a lot of people use the 1-20 system. Just was wanting to hear your rationale(s) for the ratings numbers that you used. Thanks!

04-08-2009, 11:17 PM	#2
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,828	How are you faring? If you're winning a lot, you might want to try going down to 1-20 or less (preferably 1-10) to not "greater specific insight into a player's stats", which gives you a HUGE advantage over the AI. Say a player has a Contact of 7 under a 1-10 scale. Well, that 7 could correspond to anything from 65 to 74 under a 1-100 scale. If you had two players, one with 74 Contact, and the other with 65 Contact (everything else equal), which one would YOU play? Now with the 1-10 scale, they just both show as 7. I started with 1-100. As I got better and needed a challenge, I dropped it to 1-10 with 1-5 Potential. 1-5 (especially for Potential) is even more of a challenge because of how I outlined it above. __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers

04-08-2009, 11:18 PM	#3
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	Jamaica League uses the 1-5 just to keep things as nebulous as possible, while still having some idea. Dog Days uses the 1-10 for talent and 1-5 for ratings, which I think is a clever approach. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59

04-09-2009, 03:25 PM	#6
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	i use 1-10 ratings across the board. It is what the old OOTP games used, and I guess I just use it out of habit. __________________

04-10-2009, 02:08 PM	#8
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	2-8 for both ratings and talent. They say that's what real scouts use, and if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me... __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

04-09-2009, 03:29 PM	#7
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	1-10 for me when I use ratings at all.

04-10-2009, 02:42 PM	#9
Mike Donlin All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Life, friends, is boring. Posts: 840	2-8. I think real scouts use 20-80, but that seems a little too accurate for my tastes.

04-10-2009, 03:20 PM	#11
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 361	20-80 for that ^^^ reason

04-10-2009, 05:41 PM	#14
Corsairs Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,360	The PEBA currently uses a 1-100 scale. At this time we're discussing the possibility of changing to a more restrictive scale for precisely the reason others have mentioned; the 1-100 scale really provides a little too much information. Personally speaking, I don't think a real scout would be able to report that a player had gained precisely 2% on his contact skill over a period of time. He's more likely to take note when that player takes a more sizable step forward. Right now a potential rating scale change is in the hands of the owners; we'll see what they think. Just from my own perspective, though: as someone who has spent a lot of time playing with 1-100 I'd recommend trying a scale that provides more obfuscation. __________________ Founder of the Planetary Extreme Baseball Alliance (PEBA) Premiere OOTP fictional league where creativity counts and imagination is your only limitation Check for openings - contact us today! Join the PEBA

04-10-2009, 05:55 PM	#15
Starshadow Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 316	I use the 1-100 ratings for the most part for just simming, but when I'm actually managing/GMing, I use 1-10 potentials and other ratings, stars, and no current ratings.

04-10-2009, 07:15 PM	#16
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	I've recently gone to talent only. It's been a blast.

04-11-2009, 10:27 AM	#17
ScottZ Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 221	I've been a 1-10 player but I enjoy going ratingless once in a while. __________________ Scott Z - No longer a long suffering Red Sox fan

04-11-2009, 10:37 AM	#18
Afino Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,828	Personally, I think ratings off is TOO challenging. If I did it that way, I'd have to at least keep potential on. __________________ GUBA: Moscow Enforcers