Player death

SandMan · 12-01-2008, 10:16 AM

would love to see players age and die. It is strange bringing up a player who retire 60 years earlier and have his age at 102. Retired players should have death dates. IMHO

endgame · 12-01-2008, 01:01 PM

Agreed. Or, at least, have their retirement age frozen and have the players themselves removed from the aging code.

Cryomaniac · 12-02-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by endgame

Agreed. Or, at least, have their retirement age frozen and have the players themselves removed from the aging code.

This seems a reasonable compromise, since I think Markus has said he won't do deaths.

SandMan · 12-02-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by endgame

Agreed. Or, at least, have their retirement age frozen and have the players themselves removed from the aging code.

Great idea. I just wanted a solution to the aging of retired players. This should work.

SJM1583 · 12-22-2008, 07:12 AM

not a big deal to me either way but that seems like a good idea, "retired in 2012 at age 45" would work well.

dave1927p · 03-31-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

This seems a reasonable compromise, since I think Markus has said he won't do deaths.

how come? Too depressing? lol

dcpcarmona · 04-03-2009, 06:05 PM

sounds like a great idea and hopefully makes the cut!

Cryomaniac · 04-03-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dave1927p

how come? Too depressing? lol

I'm not really sure, but I'm guessing that it's seen as slightly morbid. I suppose the problem is that as well as all of the players that live to be like 80 you have the Corey Lidle's and Ray Chapman's of this world. To model that kind of thing could be seen as being in bad taste (personally I'm not against it).

dave1927p · 04-04-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

I'm not really sure, but I'm guessing that it's seen as slightly morbid. I suppose the problem is that as well as all of the players that live to be like 80 you have the Corey Lidle's and Ray Chapman's of this world. To model that kind of thing could be seen as being in bad taste (personally I'm not against it).

perhaps, but then again, career ending injuries can be seen the same way by some. I think it would just add realism and i'd love to see it in.

If player deaths cannot be added i'd be happy with a retired players' age category just be taken out (but his birthdate of course would still stay) That way we won't have players 99 plus years old.

Cryomaniac · 04-07-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dave1927p

perhaps, but then again, career ending injuries can be seen the same way by some. I think it would just add realism and i'd love to see it in.

If player deaths cannot be added i'd be happy with a retired players' age category just be taken out (but his birthdate of course would still stay) That way we won't have players 99 plus years old.

Yeah, that's a pretty obvious compromise. Just have the age field become "Age at retirement". Also, not related to death as such, but is there a limit after which you can't unretire someone who isn't in the hall of fame? I ask because you shouldn't be able to unretire someone who is like 90 (Ignoring Northern League publicity stunts...)

elfdog428 · 04-07-2009, 05:49 PM

What really surprises me is that as much as everyone seems to want as realistic of a game as Markus can make, there isnt a bigger push to add player/management deaths to the game. I personally could really care less, but the one thing that kind of would make it more interesting is that you could not be gm for the entire run of your universe.

I usually start out in 1901 and start simming and start with an age of around 20, but after 50 or so years, it is time for retirement. The way things stand you could keep going and going and going and by the time you reach 2009, you would be near 200 and still a gm, lol. Just seems odd to me. I really dont pay much attention to my age in the game or the players once the retire. But i can see why that would be a requested item.

Has anyone ever tried to make a mod/add on that would do that for you?

Just some thoughts.

codyg19 · 04-07-2009, 08:07 PM

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I usually start out in 1901 and start simming and start with an age of around 20...and by the time you reach 2009, you would be near 200...

Actually, you'd be closer to 128 years old, but hey, that's the math teacher in me.

I play the same way, by the way.

elfdog428 · 04-07-2009, 08:24 PM

Glad I dont have to do much math at work, lol.

Have yet to finish most of the leagues/universes I start as I seem to get bored easy, but now that I have found the random debute database, I am having more fun.

I used to run a leauge back with Front Page Sports version of OOTP, I think it was the Infrograms version of OOTP4. Miss those days but no time to do a full on league and seeing that I havent upgraded past 8 yet, not many leagues to choose from.

The death of players would be a cool thing and there is nothing, imho, morbid about it.

dave1927p · 04-07-2009, 09:31 PM

i normally retire my GM after 30 or so years, and the commish too. If only they could be inducted into to HOF.

12-01-2008, 10:16 AM	#1
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	Player death would love to see players age and die. It is strange bringing up a player who retire 60 years earlier and have his age at 102. Retired players should have death dates. IMHO

12-01-2008, 01:01 PM	#2
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Agreed. Or, at least, have their retirement age frozen and have the players themselves removed from the aging code. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

04-03-2009, 06:05 PM	#7
dcpcarmona All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: at the New Moon Posts: 1,644	sounds like a great idea and hopefully makes the cut! __________________ "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -Rogers Hornsby

04-07-2009, 05:49 PM	#11
elfdog428 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 76	What really surprises me is that as much as everyone seems to want as realistic of a game as Markus can make, there isnt a bigger push to add player/management deaths to the game. I personally could really care less, but the one thing that kind of would make it more interesting is that you could not be gm for the entire run of your universe. I usually start out in 1901 and start simming and start with an age of around 20, but after 50 or so years, it is time for retirement. The way things stand you could keep going and going and going and by the time you reach 2009, you would be near 200 and still a gm, lol. Just seems odd to me. I really dont pay much attention to my age in the game or the players once the retire. But i can see why that would be a requested item. Has anyone ever tried to make a mod/add on that would do that for you? Just some thoughts. __________________ Indians and Pirates Fan UFBL Pirates

04-07-2009, 08:24 PM	#13
elfdog428 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 76	Glad I dont have to do much math at work, lol. Have yet to finish most of the leagues/universes I start as I seem to get bored easy, but now that I have found the random debute database, I am having more fun. I used to run a leauge back with Front Page Sports version of OOTP, I think it was the Infrograms version of OOTP4. Miss those days but no time to do a full on league and seeing that I havent upgraded past 8 yet, not many leagues to choose from. The death of players would be a cool thing and there is nothing, imho, morbid about it. __________________ Indians and Pirates Fan UFBL Pirates

12-22-2008, 07:12 AM	#5
SJM1583 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 85	not a big deal to me either way but that seems like a good idea, "retired in 2012 at age 45" would work well.

04-07-2009, 09:31 PM	#14
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,906	i normally retire my GM after 30 or so years, and the commish too. If only they could be inducted into to HOF. __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence?