Will not buy it - Page 3

mm7607 · 03-09-2009, 09:56 PM

Maybe the OP has asked for some features to be added and they haven't so he is frustrated. I know I would rather see more attention to stat details for season and game records then what's been added. For example-
Reworked Pitching System - OK
Customizable In-Game Screen - Don't care
Improved In-Game AI - Don't care
Enhanced Play-By-Play - Don't care
Inaugural Draft With Budgets - Really Don't care
Improved Arbitration - Really really Don't care
Improved Free Agent Compensation - waste IMO
Improved Player Evaluation AI - Don't care
Improved Injury System - OK

I never use the budgets anyway. I would rather be able to list the top 10 records for any stat in one game for the leagues history. I would like to see the accomplishments screen changed and items added. These are things I've asked for been never been added. I know you can do a dump after each season but that is a real pain. Plus I'm short on time for that anyway.

But I'll still buy the game as I have since the beginning but if the things I like most are not added then after a couple weeks just like versiion 9 and all the others, version 10 will take up space.

Tycobbler · 03-10-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by texasmame

What problems are so big they need IMMEDIATE attention?

In Game waiver wire claim issue. Waivers simply do not work correctly in the game for online leagues.

Hey you asked

BIGdaddy · 03-10-2009, 07:17 PM

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I would rather be able to list the top 10 records for any stat in one game for the leagues history. I would like to see the accomplishments screen changed and items added.

I'm with you there. OOTP is clearly the best baseball sim..... for me it would be close to perfect with a more advanced "record book".

One of the things that I always dug about Strat-o-Matic was how rich the record book was (although that's probably more manageable one season at a time)

Vopat · 03-17-2009, 03:45 AM

I will not be purchasing the game either. I had planed on buying it but after learning of the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server," I have changed my mind. If I buy something I should own it outright, and not be subjected to random checkups by the company who took my money.

Raidergoo · 03-17-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vopat

If I buy something I should own it outright, and not be subjected to random checkups by the company who took my money.

What operating system do you use?

Curtis · 03-17-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

What operating system do you use?

He asks because this make-or-break issue for you does not apply to PC users, only to Mac and Linux users.

Tom the Fish · 03-17-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vopat

I will not be purchasing the game either. I had planed on buying it but after learning of the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server," I have changed my mind. If I buy something I should own it outright, and not be subjected to random checkups by the company who took my money.

This is the first I've seen of this. This kind of stuff kept me from buying Spore. Where can I find more information?

Tom

Curtis · 03-17-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom the Fish

This is the first I've seen of this. This kind of stuff kept me from buying Spore. Where can I find more information?

Tom

The three stickied threads at the top of the page.

fantom1979 · 03-17-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vopat

I will not be purchasing the game either. I had planed on buying it but after learning of the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server," I have changed my mind. If I buy something I should own it outright, and not be subjected to random checkups by the company who took my money.

From what Pisdpaul said, the "ongoing periodic contact with the webstore server" will be removed.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...093-post5.html

battists · 03-17-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

From what Pisdpaul said, the "ongoing periodic contact with the webstore server" will be removed.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...093-post5.html

Fantom, thanks for covering for me!

What he said!

Vopat · 03-17-2009, 11:04 PM

So the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server" has been removed for the PC, as well as Mac/Linux users? It was my understanding that this policy was still in place for non-PC versions of the game. That is wonderful if that is the case!

Curtis · 03-17-2009, 11:31 PM

It was never in place for the PC.

Siv · 03-18-2009, 08:27 AM

I am buying this game no matter what as I have since the first one. I understand people really have some hang ups that keep them away from this fantastic game, but in my opinion there is nothing closer to baseball reality.

canadiancreed · 03-18-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

He asks because this make-or-break issue for you does not apply to PC users, only to Mac and Linux users.

His reply was that many software packages do just that for licensing purposes (recent Windows OS's being one example), that was the point of his rebuttal (or at least my understanding of it)

cephasjames · 03-19-2009, 09:09 AM

I would say that since Season Ticket Baseball this is the first time I'm considering not buying the next version. My reasons being 1) I'm pretty content with 9 and 2) due to my contentness there really is one thing that I want changed and that is how subleagues are set up. For a couple of versions I've talked about League Associations (especially look at LGO's post #12) instead of subleagues. Until that happens there's really not enough that draws me towards buying a new version.

EDIT: I tend to be a macro guy, not a micro guy. So lots of little changes in the engine, etc. doesn't do a whole lot for me.
EDIT 2: I'm sure I'll check out the demo though.

Le Grande Orange · 03-19-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

For a couple of versions I've talked about League Associations (especially look at LGO's post #12) instead of subleagues.

Yeah, I've taken your initial idea, thought about it a lot, looked at real-world scenarios, history, and rules, and then fleshed out the concept into a significant and comprehensive system. And, to really mimic accurately the history of professional baseball, the system is absolutely vital. (It'd also be a boon to fictional players since it would greatly increase their options for setting up baseball universes.)

I'd keep subleagues around but rename them conferences, as they are useful for recreating conference-like league structures such as exist in the NBA, NFL, and NHL.

Kemp · 04-01-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by satchel

Long will he wait, who insists on perfection.

Ha, that's a great post!

BaseballMan · 04-01-2009, 08:09 AM

It just comes down to personal choice. The game cant improve or add every feature that everybody wants. If its an improvement to you then buy it if not then dont buy it. I can understand frustration if theres nothing you see that improves your personal gameplay but im not sure saying im not gonna buy it accomplishes anything.
I waited from ootp2 for a feature like recalc and then the option to start a league in 1871. But in between for me there always seemed to be something that improved the game experience.

Bluenoser · 04-01-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

It just comes down to personal choice. The game cant improve or add every feature that everybody wants. If its an improvement to you then buy it if not then dont buy it. I can understand frustration if theres nothing you see that improves your personal gameplay but im not sure saying im not gonna buy it accomplishes anything.
I waited from ootp2 for a feature like recalc and then the option to start a league in 1871. But in between for me there always seemed to be something that improved the game experience.

Sure it accomplishes something - it lets the developer know where some of his customers stand on certain issues. It provides feedback, the same as someone saying "I'm buying it".

Everyone expresses them self in a different way. I for one am glad that people post this sort of thing.

fredreed · 04-01-2009, 05:14 PM

The only problem with OOTP game besides the most notable problems is still the user interface, the user interface needs to be more simple easier to navigate around, I mean come on folks get this problem along with the other problems fixed. The user interface should be easier to use then it is now. As far as the other problems goes I don't think that they a very big issue like the user interface is but they should be fixed along with the user interface.

03-18-2009, 08:27 AM	#53
Siv Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 365	Buying it I am buying this game no matter what as I have since the first one. I understand people really have some hang ups that keep them away from this fantastic game, but in my opinion there is nothing closer to baseball reality.

03-19-2009, 09:09 AM	#55
cephasjames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,736	I would say that since Season Ticket Baseball this is the first time I'm considering not buying the next version. My reasons being 1) I'm pretty content with 9 and 2) due to my contentness there really is one thing that I want changed and that is how subleagues are set up. For a couple of versions I've talked about League Associations (especially look at LGO's post #12) instead of subleagues. Until that happens there's really not enough that draws me towards buying a new version. EDIT: I tend to be a macro guy, not a micro guy. So lots of little changes in the engine, etc. doesn't do a whole lot for me. EDIT 2: I'm sure I'll check out the demo though. __________________ 5000+ Generic Logos Free for the Taking FREE: Uniforms and logos for 500+ teams spanning 1871-present Great Lakes League: 10 Conferences, 100 Teams Pre-OOTP 23 Custom Cap & Jersey Template v3.0 by Deft and NoPepper (with layers from other various artists) that I use: Caps, Jerseys Last edited by cephasjames; 03-19-2009 at 09:38 AM.

04-01-2009, 05:14 PM	#60
fredreed Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wagontown,PA Posts: 177	Will not buy it The only problem with OOTP game besides the most notable problems is still the user interface, the user interface needs to be more simple easier to navigate around, I mean come on folks get this problem along with the other problems fixed. The user interface should be easier to use then it is now. As far as the other problems goes I don't think that they a very big issue like the user interface is but they should be fixed along with the user interface. __________________ fredreed

03-09-2009, 09:56 PM	#41
mm7607 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Originally from Fla, now in Ky Posts: 709	Maybe the OP has asked for some features to be added and they haven't so he is frustrated. I know I would rather see more attention to stat details for season and game records then what's been added. For example- Reworked Pitching System - OK Customizable In-Game Screen - Don't care Improved In-Game AI - Don't care Enhanced Play-By-Play - Don't care Inaugural Draft With Budgets - Really Don't care Improved Arbitration - Really really Don't care Improved Free Agent Compensation - waste IMO Improved Player Evaluation AI - Don't care Improved Injury System - OK I never use the budgets anyway. I would rather be able to list the top 10 records for any stat in one game for the leagues history. I would like to see the accomplishments screen changed and items added. These are things I've asked for been never been added. I know you can do a dump after each season but that is a real pain. Plus I'm short on time for that anyway. But I'll still buy the game as I have since the beginning but if the things I like most are not added then after a couple weeks just like versiion 9 and all the others, version 10 will take up space.

03-17-2009, 03:45 AM	#44
Vopat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 50	I will not be purchasing the game either. I had planed on buying it but after learning of the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server," I have changed my mind. If I buy something I should own it outright, and not be subjected to random checkups by the company who took my money.

03-17-2009, 11:04 PM	#51
Vopat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 50	So the "ongoing periodic contact with the Webstore server" has been removed for the PC, as well as Mac/Linux users? It was my understanding that this policy was still in place for non-PC versions of the game. That is wonderful if that is the case!

03-17-2009, 11:31 PM	#52
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	It was never in place for the PC.

04-01-2009, 08:09 AM	#58
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,672	It just comes down to personal choice. The game cant improve or add every feature that everybody wants. If its an improvement to you then buy it if not then dont buy it. I can understand frustration if theres nothing you see that improves your personal gameplay but im not sure saying im not gonna buy it accomplishes anything. I waited from ootp2 for a feature like recalc and then the option to start a league in 1871. But in between for me there always seemed to be something that improved the game experience.