Fundamental flaws... your chance to vent! - Page 17

myasu · 02-11-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by numbuh48

Too many CEIs

Well, you could always edit your injury text file by yourself, or you could use the modified injury text files, created by the great members here!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-mod-file.html

The Wolf · 02-12-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by numbuh48

Too many CEIs

Way too many CEIs.

ms2002 · 02-12-2009, 02:57 AM

Wow..I did not see this thread until now. Hopefully this is still relevant.

1) To me, I would like the pitching system revamped. A lot of research has gone into the effects of GB%/LD%/FB%. It seems like the GB% are pretty irrelevant in OOTP9. It should have direct correlation with the amount of HRs allowed.

At the very least, I think HRs allowed should be: 50% Movement + 50% GB%. But one could definitely make the argument that Movement dictates the GB%, so it could (and probably should be): Movement = GB%.

Either way, this is a fundamental flaw to me. I like how the position players are rated and I like how the pitchers are modeled for control and stuff. However, I think that the movement rating is flawed.

2) There are many instances of highly talented pitchers with low endurance ratings that get bounced back and forth between SP and RP. This works for mediocre pitchers like Ryan Franklin who post ERAs in the 4-5 range. However, most of these pitchers end up with lines like 50 games, 20 starts, 2.50 ERA with some saves mixed in. This might have been evident 50 years ago, but certainly not in the modern age.

3) This might be on the verge of a new feature suggestion, but I think it's a fundamental need. The pitches in a pitcher's repertoire should have an influence on the ratings and endurance. For example, a split-finger or cutter should result in a higher GB%/Movement rating. Moreso, the pitches could be rated for quality. The higher number of quality pitches that a pitcher has should reflect their ability as a starting pitcher. Three quality pitches should be a standard for a capable starting pitcher. Those with less, or just one really quality pitch (like JJ Putz) might be much more effective in a relief role versus a starting role.

Eugene Church · 02-13-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugene Church

On the BNN Broadcast screen in the pitcher's ratings section, you can hardly make out the green numbers on the black background.

You may not be able to change the color as it is part of your ratings system, but you might find a better background. Please try some other color than black.

I was using the default skin. When I switched to the one I normally use, the blue one, it was no problem. The green showed up perfectly well.

It is still green on black, but was a very bright green.

The problem must be with the default Modern skin.

thehef · 02-14-2009, 02:31 PM

Here's one that is not a wish-list item. Rather, it's a bug or a fundamental issue that needs fixing. I haven't seen it posted in this thread or anywhere else, but I could've missed it:

When you look at minor league previous seasons batting stats, the positions do not show up for every player. I have not done extensive testing on this to isolate the problem, but I found that:

a) In a historical (real players) sim with (mostly) fictional minors, the only players whose position shows in the far left column are those that are currently active. Retired players positions show as - . As an example, let's say you are in 1950 and you look at the history batting stats for Yakima, 1948. You might see that Joe Smith's POS is 2B. This shows because, in 1950, he is an active player. Fast-forward a couple of years - after Joe Smith has retired - and look at those 1948 stats again: Joe Smith's POS will now be listed as - .

b) In a purely fictional sim, none of the players' position shows. All are - .

Note that in both a) and b) above, the positions DO show for the current season. And this issue does not appear to be a problem with either ficitonal or historical MAJOR leagues; just minors.

Reikazawa · 02-14-2009, 04:38 PM

I always found it annoying that the draft pages are written backwards. That is, the later rounds are on top.

bababui · 02-16-2009, 04:15 PM

Pitching coefficients like poise and execution should really complement the ratings already in the game. As Mike Scoscia said yesterday....

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"Our evaluation won't just be on numbers," Scioscia said. "Is he executing pitches? How's his stuff playing? What's his poise like? Do you think he can handle challenges? It's not outrageous to consider a young guy with no major league experience to break camp with you. It's happened before."

bababui · 02-16-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Reikazawa

I always found it annoying that the draft pages are written backwards. That is, the later rounds are on top.

Agree with you here.

Lukas Berger · 03-07-2009, 01:24 AM

One thing I'd like to see, and I think it's already been mentioned, is the ability to include some of the customization options for affiliated minor leagues. Especially I'd like to be able to set a maximum age for the lower levels of the minors. That would fix the problem with the ai filling it's single A rosters with guys in their upper 20's, while releasing young players with decent potential who were fairly high draft picks a year or so before.

Afino · 03-07-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

One thing I'd like to see, and I think it's already been mentioned, is the ability to include some of the customization options for affiliated minor leagues. Especially I'd like to be able to set a maximum age for the lower levels of the minors. That would fix the problem with the ai filling it's single A rosters with guys in their upper 20's, while releasing young players with decent potential who were fairly high draft picks a year or so before.

Pretty sure that's already available.

Lukas Berger · 03-07-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Afino

Pretty sure that's already available.

Really!? If so I don't know how to set it up

. And despite my low post total I'm by no mean a newbie at working with OOTP. It certainly doesn't work in the same way as non-affiliated leagues work. For non-affiliated leagues you can just go to rules -> roster rules and then set minimum and maximum ages for the league. With affiliated leagues there aren't any roster rules, just maximum roster size. Then there's text at the bottom of the section saying "Other Roster and Financial Rules from the Parent League Apply".

jaguar8311 · 03-11-2009, 02:55 PM

Mass Select Button Please(I know its not a fundamental flaw)

mikev · 03-11-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Of course!

If I beg plead, pillage, borrow, and steal... Will you tell me how FA compensation is done?

I'm DYING to know how Free Agents will be ranked, like the Elias Rankings now with MLB.

Teece · 03-22-2009, 01:20 PM

I would like to be able to promote coaches to different levels at any time. For example, if my AAA Manager leaves, I would like to have the option to promote the current AA Manager to replace him immediately.

nyy26wc · 03-26-2009, 08:59 AM

My huge fundamental flaw is the consistent use of left handed throwers at 2B, SS, 3B and C. It's not just them being used there once or so every few years when a manager loses everybody else on the bench, they are used there as starting players, get enough experience there to get rated and that turns into their primary position.

satchel · 03-26-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nyy26wc

My huge fundamental flaw is the consistent use of left handed throwers at 2B, SS, 3B and C.

I just looked at all five of my online leagues (links in my sig) and none of them has a single left-handed-throwing player at any of those positions.

Curtis · 03-26-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by satchel

I just looked at all five of my online leagues (links in my sig) and none of them has a single left-handed-throwing player at any of those positions.

I just checked the nine leagues (72 teams) in my solo fantasy universe converted from version 2006, and there were four, one at AAA and three at AA. Two were utility infielders with their best rating at second, one was a second baseman and one at third.

I wouldn't call that excessive, and supposedly the ratio has improved over the two versions since.

satchel · 03-26-2009, 12:53 PM

Of my five leagues, three are v9, two go all the way back to v4. I only checked 40-man rosters.

nyy26wc · 03-26-2009, 01:27 PM

I've 23 players in my universe (which consists of MLB and a full minor league system) who are left handed and whose current primary position is 2B, SS or 3B.

I had a total of 1925 games started by lefthanded throwers at those positions during 2008.

I started my universe the week that 9 came out, using "new 2008 MLB game" and have installed each patch as they've come out.

My only solution right now is to just pretend that all of those left handed throwers are really right handed throwers.

endgame · 03-26-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nyy26wc

I've 23 players in my universe (which consists of MLB and a full minor league system) who are left handed and whose current primary position is 2B, SS or 3B.

I had a total of 1925 games started by lefthanded throwers at those positions during 2008.

I started my universe the week that 9 came out, using "new 2008 MLB game" and have installed each patch as they've come out.

My only solution right now is to just pretend that all of those left handed throwers are really right handed throwers.

To the best of my knowledge and experience, this issue was put to bed a long time ago. The "New MLB" game may not be creating a low enough ratio. Can you create a couple of more leagues just to see how many you get on intial creation? Also, why not just edit their handedness? Isn't that another solution?

03-22-2009, 01:20 PM	#334
Teece Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 19	Staff Promotions I would like to be able to promote coaches to different levels at any time. For example, if my AAA Manager leaves, I would like to have the option to promote the current AA Manager to replace him immediately.

02-12-2009, 02:57 AM	#323
ms2002 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,493	Wow..I did not see this thread until now. Hopefully this is still relevant. 1) To me, I would like the pitching system revamped. A lot of research has gone into the effects of GB%/LD%/FB%. It seems like the GB% are pretty irrelevant in OOTP9. It should have direct correlation with the amount of HRs allowed. At the very least, I think HRs allowed should be: 50% Movement + 50% GB%. But one could definitely make the argument that Movement dictates the GB%, so it could (and probably should be): Movement = GB%. Either way, this is a fundamental flaw to me. I like how the position players are rated and I like how the pitchers are modeled for control and stuff. However, I think that the movement rating is flawed. 2) There are many instances of highly talented pitchers with low endurance ratings that get bounced back and forth between SP and RP. This works for mediocre pitchers like Ryan Franklin who post ERAs in the 4-5 range. However, most of these pitchers end up with lines like 50 games, 20 starts, 2.50 ERA with some saves mixed in. This might have been evident 50 years ago, but certainly not in the modern age. 3) This might be on the verge of a new feature suggestion, but I think it's a fundamental need. The pitches in a pitcher's repertoire should have an influence on the ratings and endurance. For example, a split-finger or cutter should result in a higher GB%/Movement rating. Moreso, the pitches could be rated for quality. The higher number of quality pitches that a pitcher has should reflect their ability as a starting pitcher. Three quality pitches should be a standard for a capable starting pitcher. Those with less, or just one really quality pitch (like JJ Putz) might be much more effective in a relief role versus a starting role.

02-14-2009, 02:31 PM	#325
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,380	Here's one that is not a wish-list item. Rather, it's a bug or a fundamental issue that needs fixing. I haven't seen it posted in this thread or anywhere else, but I could've missed it: When you look at minor league previous seasons batting stats, the positions do not show up for every player. I have not done extensive testing on this to isolate the problem, but I found that: a) In a historical (real players) sim with (mostly) fictional minors, the only players whose position shows in the far left column are those that are currently active. Retired players positions show as - . As an example, let's say you are in 1950 and you look at the history batting stats for Yakima, 1948. You might see that Joe Smith's POS is 2B. This shows because, in 1950, he is an active player. Fast-forward a couple of years - after Joe Smith has retired - and look at those 1948 stats again: Joe Smith's POS will now be listed as - . b) In a purely fictional sim, none of the players' position shows. All are - . Note that in both a) and b) above, the positions DO show for the current season. And this issue does not appear to be a problem with either ficitonal or historical MAJOR leagues; just minors.

02-14-2009, 04:38 PM	#326
Reikazawa Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 261	I always found it annoying that the draft pages are written backwards. That is, the later rounds are on top.

03-07-2009, 01:24 AM	#329
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 22,055	One thing I'd like to see, and I think it's already been mentioned, is the ability to include some of the customization options for affiliated minor leagues. Especially I'd like to be able to set a maximum age for the lower levels of the minors. That would fix the problem with the ai filling it's single A rosters with guys in their upper 20's, while releasing young players with decent potential who were fairly high draft picks a year or so before.

03-11-2009, 02:55 PM	#332
jaguar8311 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 213	Mass Select Button Please(I know its not a fundamental flaw)

03-26-2009, 08:59 AM	#335
nyy26wc All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 679	My huge fundamental flaw is the consistent use of left handed throwers at 2B, SS, 3B and C. It's not just them being used there once or so every few years when a manager loses everybody else on the bench, they are used there as starting players, get enough experience there to get rated and that turns into their primary position.

03-26-2009, 12:53 PM	#338
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith Ark. USA Posts: 2,681	Of my five leagues, three are v9, two go all the way back to v4. I only checked 40-man rosters.

03-26-2009, 01:27 PM	#339
nyy26wc All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 679	I've 23 players in my universe (which consists of MLB and a full minor league system) who are left handed and whose current primary position is 2B, SS or 3B. I had a total of 1925 games started by lefthanded throwers at those positions during 2008. I started my universe the week that 9 came out, using "new 2008 MLB game" and have installed each patch as they've come out. My only solution right now is to just pretend that all of those left handed throwers are really right handed throwers.