Cut Down League

WillTheThrill · 04-15-2003, 08:47 PM

I decided that there are too many teams in the majors. So I am going to delete half of the teams. But instead of just leaving the players as free agents, I am going to combine two teams and get a new team. My question is, how should I do this? Should I come up with reasons for pairing teams, or should it be random? The way I see it, I could combine similar teams, or completely different teams. Your reply is appreciated.

JWay · 04-15-2003, 08:53 PM

combine the teams with the most pennats with the teams witht he least in order.

like the yankees and rockies yankees have a million and the rockies have none...

NYJuggalo45 · 04-15-2003, 08:57 PM

can't do something like that, Helton or Giambi wouldn't play.

I say release everyone and do a draft, best way to distribute talent

WillTheThrill · 04-15-2003, 09:10 PM

I like the pennant idea, but the Helton/Giambi situation would be a problem.

twins15 · 04-15-2003, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NYJuggalo45
I say release everyone and do a draft, best way to distribute talent

I second his idea.

WillTheThrill · 04-15-2003, 09:45 PM

I always liked the draft idea, because its fast and easy, but Im still going to find a way to do my combining teams idea.

twins15 · 04-15-2003, 09:48 PM

I would combine the best and worst teams from last year. Then just continure like that, 2nd best with 2nd worst, 3rd besat with 3rd worst, etc. It should provide some balance.

WillTheThrill · 04-15-2003, 10:07 PM

Twins15, I could use last years stats, but wouldnt it work better to sim a season with the normal teams, then reset and combine them?

blubbla · 04-15-2003, 10:11 PM

Here's one thought to eliminate several squads. Cut teams in the geographic area. Consolidate the Mets and Yankees, Cubs and White Sox, Giants and A's, Dodgers and A's, etc...

metsgeek · 04-16-2003, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blubbla
Here's one thought to eliminate several squads. Cut teams in the geographic area. Consolidate the Mets and Yankees, Cubs and White Sox, Giants and A's, Dodgers and A's, etc...

Mets and Yankees???? NEVER!!!!

Seriously though, you'd have to cut down to an even number to allow OOTP to create a schedule. I would cut down to 20.
[list=1][*]Rank the teams by 2002 record in each league[*]Top 10 stay the same[*]Bottom 20 combine: 11 with 30, 12 with 29, 13 with 28, etc...[*]Should give you an extremely competitive league[/list=1]

WillTheThrill · 04-16-2003, 04:09 PM

Since I am extremely bored, I'll try all of the ideas so far. Personally, I like metsgeek's idea the most.

twins15 · 04-16-2003, 08:30 PM

Whatever you do, keep us updated. This sounds very interesting.

WillTheThrill · 04-16-2003, 09:49 PM

Well I have the first run at this set up. The League Structure is as follows.
AL
Anaheim Angels
Boston Red Sox
Chicago Royals
Cleveland Rockies
Minnesota Twins
Montreal Brewers
New York Yankees
Oakland A's
Seattle Mariners
Toronto Rangers

NL
Arizona Diamondbacks
Atlanta Braves
Cinncinatti Orioles
Florida Cubs
Houston Tigers
Los Angeles Devil Rays
New York Pirates
Philadelphia Pirates
San Francisco Giants
St. Louis Cardinals

WillTheThrill · 04-16-2003, 10:16 PM

Here are some notes about the teams:

Cleveland Rockies
-I changed their home stadium back to Coors Field. I feel that this makes more sense, seeing as this is a very powerful team.

Houston Tigers
-Has the same starting lineup and pitching rotation as the Astros

Florida Cubs
-Very young starting pitching: Wood, Prior, Beckett, Burnett, Clement, Penny, and just about every other starter

Im going to sim a test season now, I'll post a brief summary soon...

WillTheThrill · 04-16-2003, 10:19 PM

...and to be fair I'm turning the DH on in both leagues (there should be at least one other good hitter in each team)

WillTheThrill · 04-16-2003, 10:43 PM

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AL Standings

American League

Team	W	L	PCT	GB	&#160Pyt.Rec	Diff	&#160	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
New York (A)	88	75	.540	-	90-73	-2	&#160	43-39	45-36	5-4	17-18	*	W5	8-2
Boston	87	76	.534	1.0	83-80	4	&#160	45-36	42-40	2-12	23-21	-	L1	4-6
Toronto	84	78	.519	3.5	82-80	2	&#160	45-36	39-42	6-8	22-24	-	W1	7-3
Montreal	83	79	.512	4.5	84-78	-1	&#160	51-30	32-49	8-3	21-25	-	W2	7-3
Oakland	83	79	.512	4.5	83-79	0	&#160	46-35	37-44	11-9	24-25	-	L1	4-6
Chicago (A)	81	81	.500	6.5	81-81	0	&#160	41-40	40-41	10-8	25-23	-	L4	3-7
Minnesota	80	82	.494	7.5	82-80	-2	&#160	47-34	33-48	13-9	25-22	-	W1	1-9
Seattle	79	83	.488	8.5	78-84	1	&#160	42-39	37-44	8-8	22-26	-	L4	6-4
Cleveland	78	84	.481	9.5	81-81	-3	&#160	40-41	38-43	6-7	16-19	-	L1	5-5
Anaheim	68	94	.420	19.5	67-95	1	&#160	37-44	31-50	4-5	26-18	-	L1	6-4

NL Standings

National League

Team	W	L	PCT	GB	&#160Pyt.Rec	Diff	&#160	Home	Away	XInn	1Run	M#	Streak	Last10
New York (N)	93	69	.574	-	89-73	4	&#160	46-35	47-34	16-4	23-19	*	W1	6-4
St. Louis	91	71	.562	2.0	88-74	3	&#160	46-35	45-36	3-9	27-21	-	W1	6-4
Philadelphia	90	72	.556	3.0	92-70	-2	&#160	49-32	41-40	6-3	19-23	-	W3	6-4
Houston	85	77	.525	8.0	85-77	0	&#160	46-35	39-42	9-11	26-24	-	L1	6-4
Florida	81	81	.500	12.0	85-77	-4	&#160	39-42	42-39	3-4	24-17	-	L1	6-4
Arizona	79	83	.488	14.0	78-84	1	&#160	42-39	37-44	9-11	20-25	-	L4	1-9
Los Angeles	78	84	.481	15.0	79-83	-1	&#160	41-40	37-44	10-2	28-24	-	L3	3-7
San Francisco	75	87	.463	18.0	80-82	-5	&#160	34-47	41-40	4-11	29-27	-	W6	7-3
Cincinnati	73	89	.451	20.0	73-89	0	&#160	36-45	37-44	8-5	18-24	-	W1	4-6
Atlanta	65	97	.401	28.0	63-99	2	&#160	29-52	36-45	3-11	18-28	-	L1	5-5

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Originally posted by WillTheThrill
I like the pennant idea, but the Helton/Giambi situation would be a problem.

You could do this but allow position changes - let helton play a little RF or LF or even 3B

04-17-2003, 12:15 AM	#19
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04-15-2003, 09:48 PM	#7
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	I would combine the best and worst teams from last year. Then just continure like that, 2nd best with 2nd worst, 3rd besat with 3rd worst, etc. It should provide some balance. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

04-16-2003, 08:30 PM	#12
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	Whatever you do, keep us updated. This sounds very interesting. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

04-15-2003, 08:47 PM	#1
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	Cut Down League I decided that there are too many teams in the majors. So I am going to delete half of the teams. But instead of just leaving the players as free agents, I am going to combine two teams and get a new team. My question is, how should I do this? Should I come up with reasons for pairing teams, or should it be random? The way I see it, I could combine similar teams, or completely different teams. Your reply is appreciated. __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-15-2003, 08:53 PM	#2
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,031	combine the teams with the most pennats with the teams witht he least in order. like the yankees and rockies yankees have a million and the rockies have none...

04-15-2003, 08:57 PM	#3
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	can't do something like that, Helton or Giambi wouldn't play. I say release everyone and do a draft, best way to distribute talent __________________ This space for rent

04-15-2003, 09:10 PM	#4
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	I like the pennant idea, but the Helton/Giambi situation would be a problem. __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-15-2003, 09:45 PM	#6
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	I always liked the draft idea, because its fast and easy, but Im still going to find a way to do my combining teams idea. __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-15-2003, 10:07 PM	#8
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	Twins15, I could use last years stats, but wouldnt it work better to sim a season with the normal teams, then reset and combine them? __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-15-2003, 10:11 PM	#9
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	Here's one thought to eliminate several squads. Cut teams in the geographic area. Consolidate the Mets and Yankees, Cubs and White Sox, Giants and A's, Dodgers and A's, etc...

04-16-2003, 04:09 PM	#11
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	Since I am extremely bored, I'll try all of the ideas so far. Personally, I like metsgeek's idea the most. __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-16-2003, 09:49 PM	#13
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	PRESEASON STANDINGS Well I have the first run at this set up. The League Structure is as follows. AL Anaheim Angels Boston Red Sox Chicago Royals Cleveland Rockies Minnesota Twins Montreal Brewers New York Yankees Oakland A's Seattle Mariners Toronto Rangers NL Arizona Diamondbacks Atlanta Braves Cinncinatti Orioles Florida Cubs Houston Tigers Los Angeles Devil Rays New York Pirates Philadelphia Pirates San Francisco Giants St. Louis Cardinals __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-16-2003, 10:16 PM	#14
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	Here are some notes about the teams: Cleveland Rockies -I changed their home stadium back to Coors Field. I feel that this makes more sense, seeing as this is a very powerful team. Houston Tigers -Has the same starting lineup and pitching rotation as the Astros Florida Cubs -Very young starting pitching: Wood, Prior, Beckett, Burnett, Clement, Penny, and just about every other starter Im going to sim a test season now, I'll post a brief summary soon... __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."

04-16-2003, 10:19 PM	#15
WillTheThrill Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salinas, CA Posts: 208	...and to be fair I'm turning the DH on in both leagues (there should be at least one other good hitter in each team) __________________ Descendant of Will Miller of the Time Warp Baseball League. "After 24 years in the majors, Miller retired with one of the most successful careers in history. He set several major league records, including being the all-time leader with 4000 hits, 2004 runs and 921 stolen bases."