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Old 01-05-2002, 07:54 PM   #1
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PINSON HIGHLIGHTS WEAK 1983 HOF CANDIDATES
The list of first time players eligible for the 1983 HOB Hall of Fame ballot pales in comparison to past years. Cincinnati outfielder Vada Pinson may be the only player this year with a legitimate shot to be nominated on his first attempt.

Here is a complete list of the first time eligible players. Their bios and career stats are listed below.

Johnny Callsion OF
Vada Pinson OF
Tommy Harper OF
Gaylord Perry P
Jim Ray Hart 3B
Barry Shetrone OF
Art Mahaffey P


In addition, the following players are also eligible. Their votes from last year are listed beside their names. A player needs to appear on 70% of the ballots cast to be inducted. Bios on each of the players below can be found here: http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000037
 
NAME 1982 votes and percentage of ballots appeared on
Willie Stargell 11 52%
Orlando Cepeda 11 52%
Don Drysdale 7 33%
Billy Williams 3 14%
Jerry Adair 2 9%
Jackie Brandt 2 9%
Brooks Robinson 2 9%
Don Cardwell 2 9%
Joe Garagiola 1 5%
Felipe Alou 1 5%
Lou Brock 1 5%
Mike Cuellar 0
Juan Pizarro 0
Claude Raymond 0
Jim Brewer 0
Jim Pagliaroni 0
Rich Rollins 0


Here is the info on all the first time nominees

JOHNNY CALLISON
The 1966 American League MVP, Callison played on 5 pennant winners with the White Sox in the 1960's.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS
1958 .329 7 23 85 82 27 1 0 18 2 1 8 15 .389 .598 CHA
1959 .275 13 50 126 284 78 11 4 47 2 4 25 59 .333 .479 CHA
1960 .267 22 88 149 546 146 21 7 70 7 4 54 93 .333 .452 CHA
1961 .286 29 89 160 612 175 27 3 91 4 3 45 91 .335 .482 CHA,A
1962 .333 15 64 157 525 175 20 3 79 5 7 56 68 .398 .469 CHA
1963 .305 21 101 157 620 189 31 8 97 10 7 46 83 .353 .482 CHA
1964 .309 19 87 160 627 194 32 10 97 9 7 57 85 .367 .483 CHA
1965 .285 17 78 161 601 171 27 5 79 6 10 63 61 .352 .431 CHA,A
1966 .319 33 107 158 595 190 27 5 114 8 4 45 59 .367 .548 CHA,A
1967 .326 16 67 156 611 199 24 6 105 12 9 52 62 .379 .463 CHA
1968 .241 12 73 161 605 146 27 6 84 4 8 55 79 .305 .365 CHA
1969 .305 14 83 159 597 182 36 6 77 8 5 51 85 .360 .456 CHA
1970 .292 12 68 156 555 162 19 4 76 10 9 47 82 .347 .405 CHA
1971 .295 14 83 155 535 158 31 2 67 6 4 39 72 .343 .439 CHA,ATL
1972 .269 10 53 109 379 102 17 1 46 6 7 37 67 .334 .398 ATL
1973 .273 8 48 131 465 127 15 0 53 8 7 62 57 .359 .357 ATL
1974 .272 7 44 124 334 91 13 2 38 3 2 19 47 .312 .386 ATL
1975 .283 6 69 159 548 155 20 3 50 10 7 34 100 .325 .363 ATL
1976 .271 7 48 156 539 146 28 4 71 8 6 45 99 .327 .377 ATL
1977 .252 7 53 158 580 146 21 1 49 6 2 29 97 .287 .328 ATL
1978 .303 1 3 10 33 10 0 0 3 1 0 2 6 .343 .394 ATL

HOB REAL LIFE
Total AB : 10273 6652
Total AVG : .289 .264
Total Hits: 2969 1757
Total HR : 290 226
Total RBI : 1379 840
Total Runs: 1411 926
Total SB : 135 74



VADA PINSON
A key member of 5 World Series winning teams with Cincinnati, as of 1983 ranks 12th alltime in career hits.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS
1958 .306 17 67 130 422 129 14 2 56 4 3 14 65 .328 .469 CIN
1959 .256 12 52 123 359 92 12 0 40 7 4 15 55 .286 .390 CIN
1960 .265 15 51 129 422 112 25 3 63 8 5 13 66 .287 .445 CIN
1961 .286 8 42 91 269 77 14 2 36 5 2 19 34 .333 .442 CIN
1962 .326 13 72 144 435 142 20 5 67 15 7 33 65 .374 .485 CIN
1963 .287 12 72 113 380 109 19 2 61 10 1 26 57 .333 .442 CIN
1964 .293 14 77 153 567 166 29 2 91 27 10 39 51 .338 .425 CIN
1965 .246 18 60 158 613 151 28 3 94 32 7 43 49 .296 .390 CIN
1966 .297 31 106 157 643 191 29 5 112 43 13 51 52 .349 .502 CIN
1967 .273 22 74 155 607 166 23 5 107 39 13 56 60 .335 .437 CIN,N
1968 .275 30 78 157 622 171 25 3 94 30 8 46 56 .325 .469 CIN
1969 .308 26 84 160 620 191 31 4 112 39 12 52 42 .362 .497 CIN,N
1970 .342 31 88 159 643 220 29 3 114 30 17 42 30 .382 .541 CIN,N
1971 .288 31 97 160 625 180 36 4 110 27 13 50 35 .341 .507 CIN,N
1972 .324 26 88 159 611 198 29 2 119 31 9 53 23 .378 .506 CIN
1973 .322 22 91 143 544 175 19 5 96 31 10 42 26 .370 .496 CIN
1974 .289 17 85 157 627 181 26 5 98 29 13 43 25 .334 .427 CIN
1975 .297 19 87 155 623 185 39 2 104 24 9 51 25 .350 .457 CIN
1976 .299 21 95 152 566 169 37 5 84 26 12 38 27 .343 .493 CIN,N
1977 .307 17 100 155 567 174 32 2 78 18 11 30 33 .342 .460 CIN,N
1978 .249 5 45 137 494 123 14 1 55 10 15 10 56 .264 .312 CIN

HOB REAL LIFE
Total AB : 11259 9645
Total AVG : .293 .286
Total Hits: 3302 2757
Total HR : 407 256
Total RBI : 1611 1170
Total Runs: 1791 1366
Total SB : 485 305



TOMMY HARPER
Does not appear to have the numbers necessary for induction, but it was a weak class so I had to have some eligible players on it. Harper won a World Series ring with the Reds in 1965. He was dealt to Houston for Jimmy Wynn the next season. As of 1983, Harper ranks 10th overall in alltime stolen bases.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS
1962 .192 0 2 65 52 10 0 0 23 10 2 9 12 .311 .192 CIN
1963 .187 2 5 40 91 17 2 0 15 8 4 12 19 .282 .275 CIN
1964 .289 19 80 144 495 143 31 1 95 43 13 63 83 .369 .471 CIN
1965 .249 6 38 105 365 91 14 1 59 29 6 39 67 .322 .342 CIN
1966 .268 10 48 147 452 121 17 6 76 36 7 46 82 .335 .398 CIN,HOU
1967 .278 6 52 145 425 118 20 3 76 46 7 51 70 .355 .381 HOU
1968 .282 11 34 144 443 125 22 1 74 39 11 45 61 .348 .411 HOU
1969 .287 10 59 150 474 136 22 1 73 34 7 41 94 .344 .401 HOU
1970 .261 14 60 158 518 135 30 0 71 41 12 56 86 .333 .400 HOU
1971 .289 11 64 156 529 153 29 1 91 39 10 53 77 .354 .410 HOU
1972 .292 18 68 158 648 189 34 1 113 55 7 56 98 .348 .431 HOU
1973 .309 15 65 159 650 201 47 1 111 50 10 70 101 .376 .454 HOU
1974 .288 11 57 144 577 166 40 0 91 49 10 51 87 .346 .414 HOU
1975 .294 12 54 155 602 177 36 2 92 44 10 56 98 .354 .420 HOU
1976 .314 9 52 147 576 181 30 1 98 47 13 38 118 .357 .417 HOU
1977 .311 3 33 107 399 124 10 0 54 44 7 26 70 .353 .358 HOU
1978 .000 0 0 11 0 0 0 0 4 3 0 0 0 .000 .000 HOU

HOB REAL LIFE
Total AB : 7296 6269
Total AVG : .286 .257
Total Hits: 2087 1609
Total HR : 157 146
Total RBI : 771 567
Total Runs: 1216 972
Total SB : 617 408



GAYLORD PERRY
Perry was injured both times the Giants made the postseason during his tenure with the club, including 1969 when they won it all. He no-hit the Mets in 1964, which was his best season - finishing 19-5. His older brother Jim was 124-137 over 18 seasons with Cleveland.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR ERA W L S G CG SHO IP ER BB K TEAMS
1962 3.68 16 10 0 31 4 2 237.0 97 79 207 SFN
1963 3.73 15 11 0 33 8 0 251.0 104 57 223 SFN,N
1964 3.46 19 5 0 31 13 0 250.0 96 40 207 SFN
1965 4.06 13 13 0 32 12 2 241.2 109 55 191 SFN
1966 3.76 14 12 0 32 8 0 251.1 105 92 194 SFN,N
1967 4.88 11 11 0 30 6 1 232.1 126 71 190 SFN
1968 3.65 15 7 0 26 9 3 195.0 79 50 148 SFN
1969 3.21 10 3 0 15 3 1 117.2 42 28 97 SFN
1970 4.17 17 9 0 30 7 0 229.0 106 44 191 SFN
1971 3.77 13 15 0 30 15 1 239.0 100 62 173 SFN
1972 5.01 14 14 0 31 7 0 228.0 127 51 142 SFN
1973 4.86 6 10 0 23 8 0 174.0 94 52 120 SFN
1974 3.93 15 10 0 32 9 2 249.1 109 91 188 SFN,N
1975 5.14 10 16 0 30 7 0 218.2 125 84 164 SFN
1976 2.93 14 6 0 26 8 2 203.0 66 57 140 SFN,N
1977 5.59 7 10 0 26 4 1 120.2 75 36 81 SFN

HOB REAL LIFE
Total ERA : 4.08 3.11
Total Wins : 209 314
Total Losses: 162 265
Total Saves : 0 11
Total SHO : 15 53
Total CG : 128 303
Total K's : 2656 3534
Total BB's : 949 1379



JIM RAY HART
Scored the series clinching run in the 1969 World Series, the Giants first title since 1951 and only the second in franchise history.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS
1963 .188 3 18 65 207 39 6 0 14 0 0 14 46 .240 .261 SFN
1964 .259 16 63 115 409 106 13 0 49 1 0 36 81 .319 .408 SFN
1965 .255 22 80 148 525 134 18 1 50 1 1 39 92 .307 .419 SFN
1966 .286 32 105 156 587 168 24 4 86 1 1 42 121 .334 .504 SFN,N
1967 .289 25 95 160 581 168 26 5 74 0 0 45 112 .340 .480 SFN
1968 .289 23 89 158 570 165 20 0 65 2 1 43 121 .339 .446 SFN
1969 .243 14 76 155 551 134 21 0 60 0 0 59 100 .316 .358 SFN
1970 .273 13 88 141 517 141 19 2 54 2 1 40 117 .325 .393 SFN
1971 .290 16 76 159 580 168 19 1 69 0 1 49 126 .345 .409 SFN
1972 .312 22 86 156 551 172 15 1 58 0 2 51 98 .370 .463 SFN
1973 .296 23 81 153 568 168 13 2 74 1 1 43 116 .345 .447 SFN
1974 .289 24 95 158 568 164 14 1 66 1 2 48 109 .344 .444 SFN
1975 .258 15 89 158 597 154 24 0 60 2 2 40 126 .305 .374 SFN
1976 .258 21 84 160 598 154 10 0 79 0 5 42 111 .306 .380 SFN
1977 .277 24 95 159 599 166 18 1 79 2 3 43 97 .326 .431 SFN,N
1978 .219 4 24 83 210 46 6 0 13 0 0 12 39 .261 .305 SFN

HOB REAL LIFE
Total AB : 8218 3783
Total AVG : .273 .278
Total Hits: 2247 1052
Total HR : 297 170
Total RBI : 1244 578
Total Runs: 950 518
Total SB : 13 17



BARRY SHETRONE
Won 3 World Series rings and played on 5 pennant winners in his career.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR AVG HR RBI G AB H 2B 3B R SB CS BB K OBP SLG TEAMS
1962 .000 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 BAL
1963 .258 6 24 84 213 55 4 1 30 15 1 12 27 .298 .371 BAL
1964 .270 6 16 96 204 55 2 2 32 11 6 12 19 .310 .387 BAL
1965 .250 25 64 156 600 150 7 1 80 34 2 61 48 .319 .390 BAL
1966 .288 20 86 160 577 166 23 1 93 27 9 77 46 .372 .435 BAL
1967 .285 22 75 160 596 170 12 5 90 38 9 59 48 .350 .433 BAL
1968 .331 21 79 147 541 179 16 4 103 33 6 65 54 .403 .492 BAL,A
1969 .332 22 87 154 549 182 16 3 88 27 7 72 54 .409 .492 BAL
1970 .322 22 95 160 622 200 20 2 125 39 5 75 53 .395 .466 BAL,A
1971 .331 25 102 147 577 191 18 3 106 32 4 67 44 .401 .503 BAL
1972 .291 20 95 158 595 173 23 0 101 15 5 83 65 .378 .430 BAL
1973 .275 24 106 159 615 169 23 2 91 41 3 61 79 .340 .436 BAL
1974 .305 17 79 158 614 187 21 3 90 21 7 65 121 .371 .432 BAL,NYN
1975 .297 14 88 159 602 179 20 3 87 26 4 66 112 .367 .410 NYN
1976 .326 11 51 117 322 105 15 1 36 10 4 34 60 .390 .481 NYN
1977 .348 0 12 39 92 32 5 0 12 1 1 10 20 .412 .402 NYN

HOB REAL LIFE
Total AB : 7319 112
Total AVG : .300 .205
Total Hits: 2193 23
Total HR : 255 1
Total RBI : 1059 7
Total Runs: 1165 12
Total SB : 370 3



ART MAHAFFEY
Long time Phillies starter consistantly posted double digit win totals but his career pales in comparison to teammate Don Cardwell, who is also on this ballot.

CAREER STATS :

YEAR ERA W L S G CG SHO IP ER BB K TEAMS
1960 4.47 3 3 0 11 2 0 52.1 26 13 34 PHI
1961 4.67 6 10 0 21 11 1 162.0 84 58 107 PHI
1962 5.23 8 18 0 31 6 0 230.2 134 75 212 PHI
1963 4.80 9 16 0 31 7 0 227.0 121 75 182 PHI
1964 4.66 14 10 0 32 6 1 226.0 117 58 223 PHI
1965 3.15 9 12 0 27 7 3 191.2 67 32 144 PHI
1966 2.98 11 11 0 27 5 1 208.2 69 43 172 PHI
1967 3.63 13 11 0 28 8 0 211.0 85 37 152 PHI
1968 3.01 13 8 0 32 8 3 254.0 85 49 174 PHI
1969 2.61 12 8 0 25 9 5 196.2 57 32 131 PHI
1970 3.43 14 13 0 31 12 3 241.2 92 36 148 PHI
1971 2.64 14 6 0 29 10 3 228.2 67 44 145 PHI
1972 2.89 15 8 0 31 12 2 236.1 76 32 153 PHI
1973 3.10 15 10 0 31 6 2 243.2 84 42 162 PHI
1974 2.73 18 8 0 28 9 0 214.0 65 44 139 PHI,N
1975 3.35 8 4 0 18 1 0 115.2 43 22 78 PHI
1976 3.65 14 12 0 31 5 0 234.0 95 39 121 PHI,N
1977 3.90 11 15 0 32 3 0 228.2 99 60 99 PHI
1978 5.98 1 5 0 8 1 0 40.2 27 18 8 PHI

HOB REAL LIFE
Total ERA : 3.59 4.17
Total Wins : 208 59
Total Losses: 188 64
Total Saves : 0 1
Total SHO : 24 9
Total CG : 128 46
Total K's : 2584 639
Total BB's : 809 368



A complete list of all current HOB Hall of Famers can be found here.
http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000006

The voting will remain open until I finish posting the complete 1983 season recap. Please cast your ballots. Thanks.

[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]

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My votes:
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2. Joe Garagiola
3. Vada Pinson
4. Willie Stargell
5. Billy Williams
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1. Pinson
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1. Pinson
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Joe Garagiola
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My ballot
P Don Drysdale
P Don Cardwell
OF Orlando Cepeda
OF Vada Pinson

I dont think Drysdale and Cardwell were worthy of first time nominations but they do belong in the HOB Hall. Hard to bypass Cepeda with 600 career homers. Pinson is debatable as a first time nominee but I watched him come up big in a lot of playoff games with the Big Red Machine. His 5 World Series rings and 3200+ hits get him in this year in my book.

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