Community Roster Release Thread (Links Updated Inside) - Page 23

battists · 11-11-2008, 10:09 PM

Hi folks.

If you're interested in roster-related stuff, please come visit this thread!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ster-team.html

patrickheeney · 11-12-2008, 06:57 PM

will we have current coaches in the first set?

CubbyFan23 · 11-12-2008, 10:58 PM

Yes.

Oh and so far my predictions for awards that I plugged into the 2008 database have been 100% so far.

clamel · 11-13-2008, 07:28 AM

Please CubbyFan do check all those RETIRED players....
Several of them haven´t retired at all, some like Miguel Asencio.
Miguel Asencio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have deleted them and then imported them again, since they can´t be unretired straight out IMHO. They will then not get any defensive ratings or nothing. Deleting them and re-import them works fine.
Make them FA if they haven´t signed during the year....
The FA market needs them I think.

You got several doubles in case like T.J. Beam and others. One are active the other one retired. Perhaps a little cleanup if tim permits.

CubbyFan23 · 11-13-2008, 07:05 PM

I think it SHOULD be fixed with the re-import, but I will give those guys a look.

deadringer · 11-14-2008, 09:53 AM

Any guess on a release date? I'm not even sure when all the awards are done.

CubbyFan23 · 11-14-2008, 01:19 PM

AL MVP comes out Tuesday... I was planning on having it ready for release on that very day but it might be a bit after since this weekend is going to be tied up by the opening of another "season" at which time I will be out in the woods freezing my rear end off instead of in my comfy house.

I think we're looking at a matter of a week or week and a half at this point though. Next weekend I should be able to blow through everything else I need to do to release if I haven't already.

deadringer · 11-14-2008, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

AL MVP comes out Tuesday... I was planning on having it ready for release on that very day but it might be a bit after since this weekend is going to be tied up by the opening of another "season" at which time I will be out in the woods freezing my rear end off instead of in my comfy house.

I think we're looking at a matter of a week or week and a half at this point though. Next weekend I should be able to blow through everything else I need to do to release if I haven't already.

Cool, thanks. As a longtime Dodger fan I can't wait to get started, I've got all kinds of work to do.

mgom27 · 11-15-2008, 07:49 PM

If CC doesn't sign by then how about taking control Yankees and so on for a minute who have offered him a contract and do it then we can see who offered him a contract would sign him and also so on?

BMD · 11-16-2008, 01:12 PM

I'm assuming the deals since the end of the season will not be included such as Holliday, Swisher, and CC (should he sign before the roster is released.)

I am a Pirate fan by trade, but I am looking forward to trying to give the Mets the facelift David Wright mentioned.

CubbyFan23 · 11-16-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMD

I'm assuming the deals since the end of the season will not be included such as Holliday, Swisher, and CC (should he sign before the roster is released.)

I am a Pirate fan by trade, but I am looking forward to trying to give the Mets the facelift David Wright mentioned.

Well we can do it one of two ways, I was planning on doing it as of the first day of free agency and then updating, but I have no problem doing one as of the "end of the season" (ie. right after the World Series, pre-Holliday/Swisher trades) and then have another update with all roster moves to date. I can't imagine it would take more than a half hour to update the original set with all roster moves thus far.

Also, I want to put in fairly accurate salaries for the minor league coaches. I realize this isn't published anywhere, but does anyone have an idea of what AAA/AA/A/SS/R managers and coaches make as a baseline? If I have a general idea, I can just vary it some to make it realistic. But right now we have some Single-A guys with 250k contracts which I would imagine is not realistic in the least.

Broth32 · 11-16-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Well we can do it one of two ways, I was planning on doing it as of the first day of free agency and then updating, but I have no problem doing one as of the "end of the season" (ie. right after the World Series, pre-Holliday/Swisher trades) and then have another update with all roster moves to date. I can't imagine it would take more than a half hour to update the original set with all roster moves thus far.

I'm all for that... I've been waiting for a while for this set... it would be kinda cool to play out this years offseason!

clamel · 11-17-2008, 07:03 AM

I have a question regarding how the game AI works on this roster.....

When I start a season most levels A-level and up have enough players not to use any Joe Unknowns, BUT
when the circus get started and the AI works it´s magic a whole different picture takes place.
Let me take Baltimore Orioles as an example.

MLB team, Triple-A and Double-A works OK with 25 players each, but then it gets irritating.
The Delmarva single-A team has about 25 players (since A and lower has no limits) BUT Fredericks Keys (the other Single-A) has NO players.
Then Lord and beholds the Aberdeen Ironbirds in Short-A has plus 20 players and Bluefield Rookie ballteam has around the same.
These two teams doesn´t start playing until mid-June, so they have players sitting around and not playing even when Fredericks only have Joe Unknowns playing.

Looking deeper I find Guillermo Quiroz the 2008 catcher for the O´s in 56 games 2008, playing in Aberdeen ( well he hasn´t started yet, since that league doesn´t start until mid-june). He is 26 years of age and places in Short-A. Some other plus 25 players are also sitting around in the Rookie league waiting for playing time.

What is wrong in this picture then. Perhaps the ratings ? I have permitted the AI to make roster changes, since I believe without that the game can´t move forward.

Naturally all players in Baltimore organization should be in Single-A teams and up, before new younger drafted players pop up to move into Short-A and Rookie leagues.

Have anybody something to say about this. Some teams do this, so Baltimore is not alone, but it´s ALWAYS the Single-A that is "emtied" and players moved down to Short-A and Rookie-league.

I could accept younger players being placed in those low levels even before schedule games, but not 25 plus years plaeyers like Quiroz.
I´m sure I could find many more so it´s a bigger problem IMHO...

Ideas and solutions fellow gamers ?????

Even seen Kazuo Fukumori in AZL Rangers Rookie League. He is 30 plus and played some games in Texas Rangers but mostly in Oklahoma RedHawks this year. Wherever he played I can´t see him ever accept coming over to the states and play in Rookie League, even if he is technical a rookie.

ugen64 · 11-17-2008, 07:53 PM

hi, I'm sorry if this has already been addressed - Fred Lewis (Giants OF) has 75 catcher ability for some reason. is this because he used to be a catcher (doesn't say so on baseball reference minors), a mistake, or the CPU making a strange random stat? I ask because I simmed 1 game as SF and despite having a catcher in the batting order, the AI decided to make a double switch and play Fred Lewis at C instead.

CubbyFan23 · 11-17-2008, 09:18 PM

Probably just an oversight, it'll be fixed in the new release.

Thanks for the heads up!

gollum65 · 11-17-2008, 10:14 PM

I hope some of the contract issues will be resolved in this release. For example, Derek Lee's contract was $1,300,000 in the last release instead of $13,000,000. It's just a measly zero right?

CubbyFan23 · 11-18-2008, 12:52 AM

I think Alfonso Soriano might have a 10 year/300k contract in the new release...

I'll be re-doing all that stuff from scratch so it SHOULD be fixed. I (kinda) hope.

CubbyFan23 · 11-18-2008, 12:58 AM

Also I'm digging pretty deep this year for projection stats. Defensive numbers should be outstanding, and it's something that is definitely more of a focus than past years in getting great defenders to reflect that.

clamel · 11-18-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clamel

I have a question regarding how the game AI works on this roster.....

When I start a season most levels A-level and up have enough players not to use any Joe Unknowns, BUT
when the circus get started and the AI works it´s magic a whole different picture takes place.
Let me take Baltimore Orioles as an example.

MLB team, Triple-A and Double-A works OK with 25 players each, but then it gets irritating.
The Delmarva single-A team has about 25 players (since A and lower has no limits) BUT Fredericks Keys (the other Single-A) has NO players.
Then Lord and beholds the Aberdeen Ironbirds in Short-A has plus 20 players and Bluefield Rookie ballteam has around the same.
These two teams doesn´t start playing until mid-June, so they have players sitting around and not playing even when Fredericks only have Joe Unknowns playing.

Looking deeper I find Guillermo Quiroz the 2008 catcher for the O´s in 56 games 2008, playing in Aberdeen ( well he hasn´t started yet, since that league doesn´t start until mid-june). He is 26 years of age and places in Short-A. Some other plus 25 players are also sitting around in the Rookie league waiting for playing time.

What is wrong in this picture then. Perhaps the ratings ? I have permitted the AI to make roster changes, since I believe without that the game can´t move forward.

Naturally all players in Baltimore organization should be in Single-A teams and up, before new younger drafted players pop up to move into Short-A and Rookie leagues.

Have anybody something to say about this. Some teams do this, so Baltimore is not alone, but it´s ALWAYS the Single-A that is "emtied" and players moved down to Short-A and Rookie-league.

I could accept younger players being placed in those low levels even before schedule games, but not 25 plus years plaeyers like Quiroz.
I´m sure I could find many more so it´s a bigger problem IMHO...

Ideas and solutions fellow gamers ?????

Even seen Kazuo Fukumori in AZL Rangers Rookie League. He is 30 plus and played some games in Texas Rangers but mostly in Oklahoma RedHawks this year. Wherever he played I can´t see him ever accept coming over to the states and play in Rookie League, even if he is technical a rookie.

I must ask if I am the only one that this happens too.
I have tried both with No Limits rosters for Minors and also Limits for AAA,AA and A of 25. Same things happens.
Someone got to have this come out differently.

Come on guys let me now if it looks the same on starting this roster for all you out there. I can´t find any way around this and it´s a bigger issue than Rule5 Draft omitted IMHO. Several Single-A clubs are playing with almost 100% rosters of Joe Unknowns.
One can´t fill up Rookie leagues with players since those leagues should be empty until after draft date.

HEEEELP

PS
For those who might try and look into this a valuable info is that when you check Minor League Report for a specific team you might see the reason.
I looked in and saw the report saying on several guys in the Single-A clubs that they probably overmatched for Single-A action.
This leads to the conclusion that in the creation of these Single-A players they have just got too weak potentials and present skills.
Hope you look over this CubbyFan if lower class players actually are TOO low in quality.

omarminaya · 11-18-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Also I'm digging pretty deep this year for projection stats. Defensive numbers should be outstanding, and it's something that is definitely more of a focus than past years in getting great defenders to reflect that.

Mark Ellis gets some r-e-s-p-e-c-t

11-12-2008, 06:57 PM	#442
patrickheeney Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 33	will we have current coaches in the first set? __________________

11-12-2008, 10:58 PM	#443
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Yes. Oh and so far my predictions for awards that I plugged into the 2008 database have been 100% so far. Last edited by CubbyFan23; 11-12-2008 at 11:41 PM.

11-13-2008, 07:28 AM	#444
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,042	Please CubbyFan do check all those RETIRED players.... Several of them haven´t retired at all, some like Miguel Asencio. Miguel Asencio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I have deleted them and then imported them again, since they can´t be unretired straight out IMHO. They will then not get any defensive ratings or nothing. Deleting them and re-import them works fine. Make them FA if they haven´t signed during the year.... The FA market needs them I think. You got several doubles in case like T.J. Beam and others. One are active the other one retired. Perhaps a little cleanup if tim permits. Last edited by clamel; 11-13-2008 at 08:06 AM.

11-15-2008, 07:49 PM	#449
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,533	If CC doesn't sign by then how about taking control Yankees and so on for a minute who have offered him a contract and do it then we can see who offered him a contract would sign him and also so on? __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

11-17-2008, 07:03 AM	#453
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,042	I have a question regarding how the game AI works on this roster..... When I start a season most levels A-level and up have enough players not to use any Joe Unknowns, BUT when the circus get started and the AI works it´s magic a whole different picture takes place. Let me take Baltimore Orioles as an example. MLB team, Triple-A and Double-A works OK with 25 players each, but then it gets irritating. The Delmarva single-A team has about 25 players (since A and lower has no limits) BUT Fredericks Keys (the other Single-A) has NO players. Then Lord and beholds the Aberdeen Ironbirds in Short-A has plus 20 players and Bluefield Rookie ballteam has around the same. These two teams doesn´t start playing until mid-June, so they have players sitting around and not playing even when Fredericks only have Joe Unknowns playing. Looking deeper I find Guillermo Quiroz the 2008 catcher for the O´s in 56 games 2008, playing in Aberdeen ( well he hasn´t started yet, since that league doesn´t start until mid-june). He is 26 years of age and places in Short-A. Some other plus 25 players are also sitting around in the Rookie league waiting for playing time. What is wrong in this picture then. Perhaps the ratings ? I have permitted the AI to make roster changes, since I believe without that the game can´t move forward. Naturally all players in Baltimore organization should be in Single-A teams and up, before new younger drafted players pop up to move into Short-A and Rookie leagues. Have anybody something to say about this. Some teams do this, so Baltimore is not alone, but it´s ALWAYS the Single-A that is "emtied" and players moved down to Short-A and Rookie-league. I could accept younger players being placed in those low levels even before schedule games, but not 25 plus years plaeyers like Quiroz. I´m sure I could find many more so it´s a bigger problem IMHO... Ideas and solutions fellow gamers ????? Even seen Kazuo Fukumori in AZL Rangers Rookie League. He is 30 plus and played some games in Texas Rangers but mostly in Oklahoma RedHawks this year. Wherever he played I can´t see him ever accept coming over to the states and play in Rookie League, even if he is technical a rookie. Last edited by clamel; 11-17-2008 at 06:42 PM.

11-11-2008, 10:09 PM	#441
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Hi folks. If you're interested in roster-related stuff, please come visit this thread! http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ster-team.html

11-13-2008, 07:05 PM	#445
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I think it SHOULD be fixed with the re-import, but I will give those guys a look.

11-14-2008, 09:53 AM	#446
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 994	Any guess on a release date? I'm not even sure when all the awards are done.

11-14-2008, 01:19 PM	#447
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	AL MVP comes out Tuesday... I was planning on having it ready for release on that very day but it might be a bit after since this weekend is going to be tied up by the opening of another "season" at which time I will be out in the woods freezing my rear end off instead of in my comfy house. I think we're looking at a matter of a week or week and a half at this point though. Next weekend I should be able to blow through everything else I need to do to release if I haven't already.

11-16-2008, 01:12 PM	#450
BMD All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere raising the Jolly Roger Posts: 515	I'm assuming the deals since the end of the season will not be included such as Holliday, Swisher, and CC (should he sign before the roster is released.) I am a Pirate fan by trade, but I am looking forward to trying to give the Mets the facelift David Wright mentioned.

11-17-2008, 07:53 PM	#454
ugen64 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 38	hi, I'm sorry if this has already been addressed - Fred Lewis (Giants OF) has 75 catcher ability for some reason. is this because he used to be a catcher (doesn't say so on baseball reference minors), a mistake, or the CPU making a strange random stat? I ask because I simmed 1 game as SF and despite having a catcher in the batting order, the AI decided to make a double switch and play Fred Lewis at C instead.

11-17-2008, 09:18 PM	#455
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Probably just an oversight, it'll be fixed in the new release. Thanks for the heads up!

11-17-2008, 10:14 PM	#456
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 925	I hope some of the contract issues will be resolved in this release. For example, Derek Lee's contract was $1,300,000 in the last release instead of $13,000,000. It's just a measly zero right?

11-18-2008, 12:52 AM	#457
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	I think Alfonso Soriano might have a 10 year/300k contract in the new release... I'll be re-doing all that stuff from scratch so it SHOULD be fixed. I (kinda) hope.

11-18-2008, 12:58 AM	#458
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Also I'm digging pretty deep this year for projection stats. Defensive numbers should be outstanding, and it's something that is definitely more of a focus than past years in getting great defenders to reflect that.