HBL 1931 Hall of Fame Ballot-Please Vote!!!

Highlander · 02-22-2002, 04:36 PM

Here is the 1931 ballot. Thanks to all who voted last time.....hopefully there will be a worthy candidate this year!!! There are 4 new players to vote on, along with a couple of holdovers from past years. The new players are an interesting mix-2 who had very long consistent careers, and 2 who got late starts but were very good for a shorter time. Here they are:

Stuffy McInnis- Stuffy was a Firstbaseman for the Boston Red Sox from 1921 to 1929. He did not win any awards or set any records, but enjoyed a long consistent career on some very poor teams. As of the end of 1931, he ranks 8th in Hits, and 13th in RBI.

CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1909  .239  1   4  19  46  11  0  0   4  0  0   2   0 .271 .000   PHA

  1910  .301  0  12  38  73  22  2  4  10  3  0   7   0 .362 .000   PHA

  1911  .321  3  77 126 468 150 20 10  76 23  0  25   0 .355 .000   PHA

  1912  .327  3 101 153 568 186 25 13  83 27  0  49   0 .381 .000   PHA

  1913  .324  4  90 148 543 176 30  4  79 16  0  45  31 .376 .000   PHA

  1914  .314  1  95 149 576 181 12  8  74 25 19  19  27 .336 .000   PHA

  1915  .314  0  49 119 456 143 14  4  44  8  8  14  17 .334 .000   PHA

  1916  .295  1  60 140 512 151 25  3  42  7  0  25  19 .328 .000   PHA

  1917  .303  0  44 150 567 172 19  4  50 18  0  33  19 .342 .000   PHA

  1918  .272  0  56 117 423 115 11  5  40 10  0  19  10 .303 .000   BOS

  1919  .305  1  58 120 440 134 12  5  32  8  0  23  11 .339 .000   BOS

  1920  .297  2  71 148 559 166 21  3  50  6 11  18  19 .319 .000   BOS

  1921  .289  2  90 152 567 164 24  6  67 11  5  31  14 .326 .363   BOS

  1922  .267  3  71 153 572 153 28  8  66 12  7  38  18 .313 .360   BOS

  1923  .289  1  65 148 564 163 30 11  81  9  9  40  13 .336 .387   BOS

  1924  .273  2  68 126 436 119 16  1  54 10  8  31  26 .321 .328   BOS

  1925  .310  2  65 130 413 128 32  4  61  8  7  24  12 .348 .421   BOS

  1926  .293  1  25 118 263  77 13  6  37  4  7  13  13 .326 .399   BOS

  1927  .299  0  38 120 254  76 18  2  36  3  3  14   4 .336 .386   BOS

  1928  .274  0  41 130 343  94 18  5  39  4  9  24  16 .322 .356   BOS

  1929  .327  1  32  86 248  81 12  3  39  5 11  11   4 .355 .411   BOS

 

  Total AB  : 8891

  Total AVG : .299

  Total Hits: 2662

  Total HR  : 28

  Total RBI : 1212

  Total Runs: 1064

  Total SB  : 217

Joe Wood- Joe was an Outfielder for the Cleveland Indians from 1921 to 1930. He really did not get a chance as a full time player until 1921, at age 31, but he made the most of it. He was a 2-time AL Outfielder of the Year. He was named to 6 All-Star Teams(.333, 1D, 3R). He was a Batter of the Month 3 times in his career. He holds the Cleveland Season Records for- Hits(221), RBI(124), and Hitting Streak(25). As of the end of 1931, he ranks 12th in BA, 21st in RBI, and 9th in Doubles.

CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1908  .000  0   0   6   7   0  0  0   1  0  0   0   0 .000 .000   BOS

  1909  .164  0   3  24  55   9  0  1   4  0  0   2   0 .193 .000   BOS

  1910  .261  1   5  35  69  18  2  1   9  0  0   5   0 .311 .000   BOS

  1911  .261  2  11  44  88  23  4  2  15  1  0  10   0 .337 .000   BOS

  1912  .290  1  13  43 124  36 13  1  16  0  0  11   0 .348 .000   BOS

  1913  .268  0  10  24  56  15  5  0  10  1  0   4   7 .317 .000   BOS

  1914  .140  0   1  21  43   6  1  0   2  1  0   3  14 .196 .000   BOS

  1915  .259  1   7  29  54  14  1  1   6  1  1   5  10 .322 .000   BOS

  1917  .000  0   0  10   6   0  0  0   1  0  0   0   3 .000 .000   CLE

  1918  .296  5  66 119 422 125 22  4  41  8  0  36  38 .352 .000   CLE

  1919  .255  0  27  72 192  49 10  6  30  3  0  32  21 .362 .000   CLE

  1920  .270  1  30  61 137  37 11  2  25  1  1  25  16 .383 .000   CLE

  1921  .361 15 122 152 612 221 51  9 117  7  3  77  39 .433 .547   CLE,A

  1922  .333 13 124 151 594 198 46 12 109  4 10  90  56 .421 .517   CLE,A

  1923  .316 18 102 147 595 188 50 15 106  7  3  69  47 .387 .541   CLE

  1924  .324  8 100 149 537 174 40 11 103  1  6  97  52 .427 .484   CLE,A

  1925  .328 10 101 151 586 192 42 13 100 10  6  84  57 .412 .495   CLE,A

  1926  .328 13  78 118 445 146 38 11  84  7  5  76  32 .426 .551   CLE,A

  1927  .316 11  86 147 538 170 55 13  96  2  3  83  48 .407 .528   CLE

  1928  .317 10 104 146 552 175 36 16  82  2  2  71  55 .395 .495   CLE,A

  1929  .318  3  72 143 503 160 39  6  60  2  1  38  55 .366 .437   CLE

  1930  .167  0   1  20 36    6  1  0   2  0  0  1   5  .189 .194   CLE



  Total AB  : 6251

  Total AVG : .314

  Total Hits: 1962

  Total HR  : 112

  Total RBI : 1063

  Total Runs: 1019

  Total SB  : 58

Ken Williams- Ken was an Outfielder for the St. louis Browns from 1921 to 1930. He didn't get a chance to be a full-time player until 1 year before the HBL started, in 1920. Like Wood, however, he made the most of his time. He was named an AL Outfielder of the Year 2 times. He was named to 4 All-Star Teams(3-6, 2D, 1R, 2RBI). He was a Batter of the Month 2 times in his career. He holds the St. Louis season records for- HR(25), Runs(131), and Walks(114). As of the end of 1931, he ranks 7th in HR, 25th in RBI, 12th in Walks, and 19th in Runs.

CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1915  .242  0  16  71 219  53 10  4  22  4  3  15  20 .291 .000   CIN

  1916  .111  0   1  10  27   3  0  0   1  1  0   2   5 .172 .000   CIN

  1918  .000  0   1   2   1   0  0  0   0  0  0   1   0 .500 .000   SLA

  1919  .300  6  35  65 227  68 10  5  32  7  0  26  25 .372 .000   SLA

  1920  .307 10  72 141 521 160 34 13  90 18  8  41  26 .358 .000   SLA

  1921  .338 22  97 151 591 200 40  6 126 10 10  68  23 .407 .538   SLA

  1922  .323 25  96 151 567 183 36 12 131  9 15 114  38 .436 .561   SLA,A

  1923  .337 19  95 151 566 191 38  3 109  8 13  90  24 .428 .516   SLA,A

  1924  .296 17  78 133 470 139 23 10  81  9  7  95  31 .414 .496   SLA

  1925  .307 20  97 150 564 173 25 14 104 15  8  92  30 .404 .507   SLA,A

  1926  .273 17  67 150 524 143 29 10 104 10  9 104  36 .393 .464   SLA

  1927  .302 18 102 145 547 165 37 15 116 15 10  86  39 .397 .523   SLA

  1928  .277 15  71 147 541 150 32  7  98 16  8  97  35 .387 .445   SLA,A

  1929  .275 22 107 151 560 154 24  9 107 17 10  93  48 .378 .468   SLA

  1930  .266 14  77 127 474 126 19  3  66 12 17  48  64 .339 .407   SLA

  Total AB  : 6399

  Total AVG : .298

  Total Hits: 1908

  Total HR  : 205

  Total RBI : 1012

  Total Runs: 1187

  Total SB  : 151

Edd Roush- Edd was an Outfielder for the Cincinnati Reds from 1921 to 1930. He was named an NL Outfielder of the Year 3 times. He was named to 2 All-Star Teams(0-3, 1R). He holds the Cincinnati season records for- BA(.366), Hits(214), and Triples(19). As of the end of 1931, he ranks 11th in BA, 10th in Hits, 20th in Doubles, 5th in Triples, 15th in Runs, and 11th in SB. Many of his numbers were hurt by the very poor offense that the Reds have had through most of his HBL career. This is evidenced by the number of AB he got in his final season, shown below.

CAREER STATS :

 

  YEAR   AVG HR RBI   G  AB   H 2B 3B   R SB CS  BB   K  OBP  SLG   TEAMS

  1913  .100  0   0   9  10   1  0  0   2  0  0   0   2 .100 .000   CHA

  1914  .325  1  30  74 166  54  8  4  26 12  0   6  20 .349 .000   IND

  1915  .298  3  60 145 551 164 20 11  73 28  0  38  25 .343 .000   NEW

  1916  .267  0  20 108 341  91  7 15  38 19  0  14  23 .296 .000   CIN,NY1

  1917  .341  4  67 136 522 178 19 14  82 21  0  27  24 .373 .000   CIN

  1918  .333  5  62 113 435 145 18 10  61 24  0  22  10 .365 .000   CIN

  1919  .321  4  71 133 504 162 19 12  73 20  0  42  19 .374 .000   CIN

  1920  .339  4  90 149 579 196 22 16  81 36 24  42  22 .383 .000   CIN

  1921  .308  5  58 151 587 181 29 10  85 24 15  44   3 .357 .417   CIN

  1922  .321  6  60 152 580 186 37 19  89 25 23  68  15 .392 .481   CIN

  1923  .366  4  68 149 585 214 34 14 102 34 27  48  19 .414 .492   CIN,N

  1924  .335  6  48 130 501 168 26 13  86 17 12  50  14 .396 .475   CIN

  1925  .306  5  76 150 614 188 42 10  94 24 22  46  10 .355 .432   CIN,N

  1926  .323  5  79 139 533 172 32  9  85 34 14  61  16 .392 .445   CIN

  1927  .297  4 101 153 596 177 28 15  90 24 15  43  24 .344 .414   CIN

  1928  .328  3  58 126 481 158 28  5  76 25 20  34   7 .373 .426   CIN

  1929  .290  0  33 106 290  84 13  5  38 13 13  18   7 .331 .369   CIN

  1930  .191  1  19 121 377  72 14  4  52 21 18  37   9 .280 .257   CIN



  Total AB  : 8252

  Total AVG : .314

  Total Hits: 2591

  Total HR  : 60

  Total RBI : 1000

  Total Runs: 1233

  Total SB  : 401

Also, held over from last year are Zack Wheat and Bob Shawkey. Wheat was only 2 votes away from induction last year, and Shawkey needs a vote this year to stay on the ballot.

Information on Wheat can be found here:

http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000111

Information on Shawkey can be found here:

http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000123

I will keep the voting open for a couple days or so. Thanks for voting!!

Specs · 02-22-2002, 04:52 PM

Keeping his pitching stats in mind, I'm gonna vote for Wood only.

General Mike · 02-22-2002, 04:56 PM

Joe Wood, Zack Wheat and Ken Williams

kingfc22 · 02-22-2002, 05:02 PM

Wheat!!! He's gonna make it this year.

Rob Hill · 02-22-2002, 05:16 PM

Wheat

toanstrom · 02-22-2002, 05:31 PM

Wheat

[ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: toanstrom ]

Squall · 02-22-2002, 06:53 PM

Some intriguing, but sadly, another blank ballot.

EDIT: I had no idea about Wood's pitching. Nearly 2000 hits and 116 pitching wins. I'll revise my ballot (if allowed).

[ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: Squall ]

MJohnson · 02-22-2002, 07:03 PM

Wheat

Shorty · 02-22-2002, 07:34 PM

Edd Roush, Zack Wheat

hellfrozeover · 02-22-2002, 09:11 PM

Blank ballot. *Going on strike to bring back Baker*

Tiger Fan · 02-22-2002, 09:21 PM

EDIT

With pitching stats factored in Wood gets my vote.

[ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ]

CubsFan02 · 02-22-2002, 09:40 PM

Wheat only. Weak class.

BrentBlades · 02-22-2002, 09:56 PM

Wheat

Specs · 02-23-2002, 04:38 AM

Are you people with the blank ballots taking inot consideration that this Joe Wood is the same Joe Wood who posted these pitching stats:



 Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO SV   IP     H   ER   HR  BB   SO   ERA *lgERA *ERA+

+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+---+----+----+-----+-----+----+

 1908 18 BOS AL   1   1   6   2   1   1  0   22.7   14    6   0   16   11  2.38  2.46  103

 1909 19 BOS AL  11   7  24  19  13   4  0  160.7  121   39   1   43   88  2.18  2.50  114

 1910 20 BOS AL  12  13  35  17  14   3  0  198.7  155   37   3   56  145  1.68  2.54  152

 1911 21 BOS AL  23  17  44  33  25   5  3  275.7  226   62   2   76  231  2.02  3.27  162

 1912 22 BOS AL  34   5  43  38  35  10  1  344.0  267   73   2   82  258  1.91  3.44  180

 1913 23 BOS AL  11   5  23  18  12   1  2  145.7  120   37   0   61  123  2.29  2.93  128

 1914 24 BOS AL   9   3  18  14  11   1  1  113.3   94   33   1   34   67  2.62  2.68  102

 1915 25 BOS AL  15   5  25  16  10   3  2  157.3  120   26   1   44   63  1.49  2.79  187

+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+---+----+----+-----+-----+----+

 11 Yr WL% .671 116  57 225 158 121  28 11 1436.7 1138  324  10  421  989  2.03  2.97  146

with the Boston Red Sox and should probably be elected based on these alone and some lucky Boston media bias (Gammons is on the veterans committee and votes for Wood every year...)

Highlander · 02-23-2002, 04:55 AM

For some reason I completely forgot about the pitching stats. Thanks for bringing that up....they should certainly be considered in his HOF voting.

JimServo · 02-23-2002, 05:45 AM

Wood, Wheat

blubbla · 02-23-2002, 10:15 AM

Wood
Wheat

cubboyroy7 · 02-23-2002, 11:48 AM

I vote for Wheat and Wood.

LivnLegend · 02-23-2002, 12:25 PM

Zack Wheat

H I Mcdonough · 02-23-2002, 05:32 PM

Wheat & Roush

02-22-2002, 04:56 PM	#3
General Mike Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerset, NJ Posts: 255	Joe Wood, Zack Wheat and Ken Williams __________________ ACL - Houston Astros SHIBA - Los Angeles Dodgers [url=http://baseball.slammedia.net]BL2[/url - New York Mets BTTF - Florida Marlins

02-22-2002, 05:02 PM	#4
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	Wheat!!! He's gonna make it this year. __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits

02-22-2002, 07:34 PM	#9
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	Edd Roush, Zack Wheat __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

02-22-2002, 09:11 PM	#10
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Blank ballot. Going on strike to bring back Baker __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

02-22-2002, 09:21 PM	#11
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	EDIT With pitching stats factored in Wood gets my vote. [ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: Tiger Fan ] __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

02-22-2002, 05:16 PM	#5
Rob Hill Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 47	Wheat

02-22-2002, 05:31 PM	#6
toanstrom Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 277	Wheat [ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: toanstrom ]

02-22-2002, 06:53 PM	#7
Squall Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NY, NY Posts: 115	Some intriguing, but sadly, another blank ballot. EDIT: I had no idea about Wood's pitching. Nearly 2000 hits and 116 pitching wins. I'll revise my ballot (if allowed). [ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: Squall ]

02-22-2002, 07:03 PM	#8
MJohnson Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: under an overpass Posts: 459	Wheat

02-22-2002, 09:40 PM	#12
CubsFan02 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 17	Wheat only. Weak class. __________________ TFBL-Arizona(2001 WS Runner-Up)

02-22-2002, 09:56 PM	#13
BrentBlades Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Louisville Posts: 134	Wheat

02-23-2002, 04:55 AM	#15
Highlander All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,031	For some reason I completely forgot about the pitching stats. Thanks for bringing that up....they should certainly be considered in his HOF voting. __________________ "The baseball mania has run its course. It has no future as a professional endeavor." — Cincinnati Gazette editorial, 1879

02-23-2002, 05:45 AM	#16
JimServo Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 418	Wood, Wheat __________________ "When I was a small boy in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of the summer afternoon on a river bank, we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish." -Dwight D. Eisenhower

02-23-2002, 10:15 AM	#17
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	Wood Wheat

02-23-2002, 11:48 AM	#18
cubboyroy7 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10	I vote for Wheat and Wood.

02-23-2002, 12:25 PM	#19
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Zack Wheat __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

02-23-2002, 05:32 PM	#20
H I Mcdonough Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 291	Wheat & Roush