historical players for a fictional league help needed

bombadil · 11-04-2008, 09:43 AM

What I’d like to do is create a fictional league using historical players. My plan is to 1) hold a draft with human managers, 2) run the season, 3) start over again with each team keeping only 2 or 3 core players. I don’t want aging of the players to be a factor, nor financials, nor managers / coaches / scouts.
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I would love to bring in Babe Ruth from 1927 and Bob Gibson from 1968 to play in the same league. Is this even possible? Can the aging of players be turned off so I can run a league with the same players 50 times, the players statistics stay with the player, but Babe Ruth and Bob Gibson stay at 32 years old?
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From what I’ve read, it seems I need to create a fictional league, delete all the players, and then import the historical players. I did attempt it, but Babe Ruth was 111 years old when he came in.
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Does anyone have directions or a step by step process that I could follow to create a league like this? I've been trying all different things, and searching threads for the past few days, and can't figure it out. All I’m really trying to do is run an Earl Weaver Baseball League in OOTP9.

Bristolduke · 11-04-2008, 12:17 PM

Most of what you describe can be done. It is not necessarily an easy process. Knowledge of Excel and the Lahman files would be key.

I am running an on-line league doing essentially the same thing (except players do age).

Once you have it set up, re-running is just recreating the same way.

You create the league structure without any players and save that file. you can then reuse it with any player structure.

You create your players by modifying the Lahman database (create your own version and save the files, then point to it each time you want to start your league).

You need to modify the year in the player records so that the players you want all play in the same time frame (the actual year you needs to align with the starting year of your file - what year won't matter although you may want neutral setting on the league parameters vice seasonal ones).

Once those files are set (master, batting, pitching, fielding, fieldingOF and team), then improt historical players and point to your new master file.

I set financials to a single setting and not do any adjustments. Also, if importing them as first year players, the salaries will be league minimums so financials will be irrelevant.

Hope that helps.

bombadil · 11-04-2008, 11:42 PM

just so i understand - i should copy all files in the "stats" folder to "new" folder. i need to go into the batting.csv, pitching.csv, etc... files in "new" folder, find all the players and the specific years i want to use, and change that year (say 1871). i need to do this for all the players i want in all the files you listed.

would you suggest copying the data of the specific years of specific players into a new file, deleting all the information i dont want, or simply change the year that i want to import - it syas 1927, but change it to 1871?

thanks for the help.

Bristolduke · 11-06-2008, 12:14 PM

I would copy all the files from stats into you new area and use it as your backup. Then I would create the "your specific" version of each of those files and work from there. Backups frequently will help if you make an error.

When you have finished the changes in "your specific", create game area where you copy all the files from new to game and then overlay your specific into game. Then start OOTP and point to the game set.

I believe in order for the game engine to function properly you will have to keep the career years in sync. For example you can't change all for Ruth's seasons to 1871. His first year can be 1871 but the you have to increment so that all his seasons are there.

I haven't tried using only one year's worth of data. It might work as you describe, but I would think you would have to also update the master table to show first year/last year as that same year. Not positive there. You also need to make sure the game settings are set to statistics for 1 year and probably turn re-calc off.

Remember the LehmanID is the key field. It links all the CVS tables, so make sure you keep it straight,

As I said not necessarily easy, but doable. Good luck.

11-04-2008, 09:43 AM	#1
bombadil Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12	historical players for a fictional league help needed What I’d like to do is create a fictional league using historical players. My plan is to 1) hold a draft with human managers, 2) run the season, 3) start over again with each team keeping only 2 or 3 core players. I don’t want aging of the players to be a factor, nor financials, nor managers / coaches / scouts. <O></O> I would love to bring in Babe Ruth from 1927 and Bob Gibson from 1968 to play in the same league. Is this even possible? Can the aging of players be turned off so I can run a league with the same players 50 times, the players statistics stay with the player, but Babe Ruth and Bob Gibson stay at 32 years old? <O></O> From what I’ve read, it seems I need to create a fictional league, delete all the players, and then import the historical players. I did attempt it, but Babe Ruth was 111 years old when he came in. <O></O> Does anyone have directions or a step by step process that I could follow to create a league like this? I've been trying all different things, and searching threads for the past few days, and can't figure it out. All I’m really trying to do is run an Earl Weaver Baseball League in OOTP9.

11-04-2008, 12:17 PM	#2
Bristolduke All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,421	Most of what you describe can be done. It is not necessarily an easy process. Knowledge of Excel and the Lahman files would be key. I am running an on-line league doing essentially the same thing (except players do age). Once you have it set up, re-running is just recreating the same way. You create the league structure without any players and save that file. you can then reuse it with any player structure. You create your players by modifying the Lahman database (create your own version and save the files, then point to it each time you want to start your league). You need to modify the year in the player records so that the players you want all play in the same time frame (the actual year you needs to align with the starting year of your file - what year won't matter although you may want neutral setting on the league parameters vice seasonal ones). Once those files are set (master, batting, pitching, fielding, fieldingOF and team), then improt historical players and point to your new master file. I set financials to a single setting and not do any adjustments. Also, if importing them as first year players, the salaries will be league minimums so financials will be irrelevant. Hope that helps. __________________ Commish of the Home Nations Baseball Association Commish of the Baseball Association League Commish of the League of WAR Commish of the On-Line Dynasty League SIMBL2 - Westbury Cannons Great Lakes Baseball - Toledo Neptunes World Baseball - Guantanamo Marines OMLB - Cincinnati Reds

11-06-2008, 12:14 PM	#4
Bristolduke All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,421	I would copy all the files from stats into you new area and use it as your backup. Then I would create the "your specific" version of each of those files and work from there. Backups frequently will help if you make an error. When you have finished the changes in "your specific", create game area where you copy all the files from new to game and then overlay your specific into game. Then start OOTP and point to the game set. I believe in order for the game engine to function properly you will have to keep the career years in sync. For example you can't change all for Ruth's seasons to 1871. His first year can be 1871 but the you have to increment so that all his seasons are there. I haven't tried using only one year's worth of data. It might work as you describe, but I would think you would have to also update the master table to show first year/last year as that same year. Not positive there. You also need to make sure the game settings are set to statistics for 1 year and probably turn re-calc off. Remember the LehmanID is the key field. It links all the CVS tables, so make sure you keep it straight, As I said not necessarily easy, but doable. Good luck. __________________ Commish of the Home Nations Baseball Association Commish of the Baseball Association League Commish of the League of WAR Commish of the On-Line Dynasty League SIMBL2 - Westbury Cannons Great Lakes Baseball - Toledo Neptunes World Baseball - Guantanamo Marines OMLB - Cincinnati Reds

11-04-2008, 11:42 PM	#3
bombadil Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12	just so i understand - i should copy all files in the "stats" folder to "new" folder. i need to go into the batting.csv, pitching.csv, etc... files in "new" folder, find all the players and the specific years i want to use, and change that year (say 1871). i need to do this for all the players i want in all the files you listed. would you suggest copying the data of the specific years of specific players into a new file, deleting all the information i dont want, or simply change the year that i want to import - it syas 1927, but change it to 1871? thanks for the help.