AMMY Draft not generating enough kids/disparity

CommishJoe · 01-16-2003, 09:27 AM

We are using 4.2b and have the ammy draft set to 12 rounds. This year, the game only generated enough kids for 5 rounds (and a REALLY crappy crop I might add). My co-commish simmed ahead 3 years, and noticed that it only generated enough for 10 rounds.

Also, there seems to be a big disparity between the talent of hitters and pitchers. The amt of decent - great pitchers always seems to be a LOT more then decent - great hitters. The hitter pool always seems to have a couple of potential future stars, then slacks off BIG time, while the pitching pool gradually declines.

Just figured I'd get these concerns out there now so that when OOTP v5 is beta tested, this could be looked at closely.

Killebrew · 01-16-2003, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by CommishJoe
... there seems to be a big disparity between the talent of hitters and pitchers. The amt of decent - great pitchers always seems to be a LOT more then decent - great hitters. The hitter pool always seems to have a couple of potential future stars, then slacks off BIG time, while the pitching pool gradually declines.

I agree completely. In OOTP3 good pitchers in the ammy draft (fictional players) were far more rare than good hitters - this was mentioned frequently in the forums. As for OOTP4, IMO it went too far the other way to correct this imbalance and as you say it produces far more decent - great pitchers than decent - great hitters. I'd like to see that evened out more in v5, and maybe a little more randomness in the breakdown of quality pitchers versus hitters from year to year.

sixto · 01-16-2003, 10:26 AM

I got a little bit shouted down for saying this before, but I've simmed about 6 more years of my solo fictional leagues and things have not changed - I'm still not getting brilliant hitters in my drafts. In 12 seasons I have, in fact, not seen a single hitter who would make the Hall of Fame in real life. Maybe one.

So, ya, I agree with what's above, wholeheartedly.

Steve Kuffrey · 01-16-2003, 12:29 PM

I will look into this.

fantom1979 · 01-17-2003, 12:57 AM

I have also noticed that there seem to be more good pitchers than hitters. It would be nice if it was balanced out a little in V5. As far as the game not creating enough players for the draft, I have never seen this personally. I use a 10 round draft and the creates exactly the amount of players needed.

jmaness84 · 01-18-2003, 02:42 PM

Good pitchers are easier to produce since u can turn a descent reliever into a real good starter when you draft them.

LonghornNole · 04-08-2003, 08:43 PM

I'm new to OOTP. I have run a search for "draft" to browse the forums. With that out of the way, this looked like the best thread to post in.

I just started a new league and am in the 2nd year (2004). The draft came up on June 1 with absolutely NO ONE to draft.

sporr · 04-08-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by LonghornNole
I'm new to OOTP. I have run a search for "draft" to browse the forums. With that out of the way, this looked like the best thread to post in.

I just started a new league and am in the 2nd year (2004). The draft came up on June 1 with absolutely NO ONE to draft.

Did you happen to switch from an off-season draft to the June draft recently? The reason I mention it is that the rookies only get generated once per year, so if you switch after an off-season rookie draft is complete, there won't be any available for the draft in June.

LonghornNole · 04-08-2003, 09:06 PM

Nope.

Porkins · 04-11-2003, 11:19 AM

Just my $0.02

I find that I have FAR, FAR MORE quality pitching prospects in every draft versus batting prospects. I find in a 30-team league I can still draft a potential number-one starter in the third round or possibly later. By the third round, the hitters aren't even qualified to play T-ball.

Treches · 04-11-2003, 11:24 AM

How many rounds do you have?

01-16-2003, 09:27 AM	#1
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	AMMY Draft not generating enough kids/disparity We are using 4.2b and have the ammy draft set to 12 rounds. This year, the game only generated enough kids for 5 rounds (and a REALLY crappy crop I might add). My co-commish simmed ahead 3 years, and noticed that it only generated enough for 10 rounds. Also, there seems to be a big disparity between the talent of hitters and pitchers. The amt of decent - great pitchers always seems to be a LOT more then decent - great hitters. The hitter pool always seems to have a couple of potential future stars, then slacks off BIG time, while the pitching pool gradually declines. Just figured I'd get these concerns out there now so that when OOTP v5 is beta tested, this could be looked at closely. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

01-16-2003, 12:29 PM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I will look into this. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

01-17-2003, 12:57 AM	#5
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	I have also noticed that there seem to be more good pitchers than hitters. It would be nice if it was balanced out a little in V5. As far as the game not creating enough players for the draft, I have never seen this personally. I use a 10 round draft and the creates exactly the amount of players needed. __________________

04-08-2003, 08:43 PM	#7
LonghornNole Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 4	No players in amateur draft I'm new to OOTP. I have run a search for "draft" to browse the forums. With that out of the way, this looked like the best thread to post in. I just started a new league and am in the 2nd year (2004). The draft came up on June 1 with absolutely NO ONE to draft.

04-11-2003, 11:24 AM	#11
Treches Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Damned Hell Posts: 2,150	How many rounds do you have? __________________ The Computer Baseball League

01-16-2003, 10:26 AM	#3
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,273	I got a little bit shouted down for saying this before, but I've simmed about 6 more years of my solo fictional leagues and things have not changed - I'm still not getting brilliant hitters in my drafts. In 12 seasons I have, in fact, not seen a single hitter who would make the Hall of Fame in real life. Maybe one. So, ya, I agree with what's above, wholeheartedly.

01-18-2003, 02:42 PM	#6
jmaness84 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,685	Good pitchers are easier to produce since u can turn a descent reliever into a real good starter when you draft them.

04-08-2003, 09:06 PM	#9
LonghornNole Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 4	Nope.

04-11-2003, 11:19 AM	#10
Porkins Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2	Just my $0.02 I find that I have FAR, FAR MORE quality pitching prospects in every draft versus batting prospects. I find in a 30-team league I can still draft a potential number-one starter in the third round or possibly later. By the third round, the hitters aren't even qualified to play T-ball.